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Originally Posted by Witton Park

so about 10 years then?

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Always seeking a negative spin.....

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Originally Posted by Mike T

The news about the Pfizer vaccine has certainly caught the attention of the media - but storage at minus 80 C might be tricky - how many trucks and GP surgeries can do this? Maybe they can and I just don't know what I don't know.

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Good article here, which discusses a number of issues around the vaccine.

https://unherd.com/2020/11/yes-the-v...ly-on-its-way/

It appears the vaccine has to be stored at minus 80 C apart from the last day or two, so it seems GP surgeries would need to be using up their batches pretty much as soon as they have been delivered.

Still, very positive news. Let's hope there are no hitches in the next month, I don't think we could stand the disappointment.

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Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever

Good article here, which discusses a number of issues around the vaccine.

https://unherd.com/2020/11/yes-the-v...ly-on-its-way/

It appears the vaccine has to be stored at minus 80 C apart from the last day or two, so it seems GP surgeries would need to be using up their batches pretty much as soon as they have been delivered.

Still, very positive news. Let's hope there are no hitches in the next month, I don't think we could stand the disappointment.

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That is a really great article :)

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Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever

Good article here, which discusses a number of issues around the vaccine.

https://unherd.com/2020/11/yes-the-v...ly-on-its-way/

It appears the vaccine has to be stored at minus 80 C apart from the last day or two, so it seems GP surgeries would need to be using up their batches pretty much as soon as they have been delivered.

Still, very positive news. Let's hope there are no hitches in the next month, I don't think we could stand the disappointment.

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Interesting that the Ebola vaccine needed a minus 60 C "cold chain".

I hope the majority don't use it as an excuse to go bonkers leading up to Christmas and New Year, but I fear many will read this news as "All is OK, we are saved in a few weeks so nothing matters anymore".

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

Always seeking a negative spin.....

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Far from it. JohnK was the one saying he'd wait to see the long term effects. As the expert on this what timescale would you suggest for assessing the long term effects? I just threw the 10 years in there.

You know me, shoot from the lip.
Overall I'm very positive re Covid. It's melts like you that are struggling.

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Originally Posted by Mike T

The news about the Pfizer vaccine has certainly caught the attention of the media - but storage at minus 80 C might be tricky - how many trucks and GP surgeries can do this? Maybe they can and I just don't know what I don't know.

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In my teenage years i had a procedure on my foot using Liquid Nitrogen (i believe this is the coldest known element). This was performed in the doctor's surgery, and i imagine stored at some pretty stringent temperature regulations.

So based on my hazy, anecdotal memory, i can confidently confirm that there are 100% no storage issues..!!

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Originally Posted by molehill

I hope the majority don't use it as an excuse to go bonkers leading up to Christmas and New Year, but I fear many will read this news as "All is OK, we are saved in a few weeks so nothing matters anymore".

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Funnily enough my thinking is more along the lines that, with a potential vaccine on the horizon, now especially wouldn't be a good time to throw caution to the wind. You know, a bit like going out of your way to not catch a bullet on the last day of your tour in 'Nam :)

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

Funnily enough my thinking is more along the lines that, with a potential vaccine on the horizon, now especially wouldn't be a good time to throw caution to the wind. You know, a bit like going out of your way to not catch a bullet on the last day of your tour in 'Nam :)

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I've been thinking exactly the same and the anecdote that came to my mind was Armistice Day November 1918 and avoiding getting shot just before the ceasefire at 11 am.

But the Government does seem to be worried that some people will take this as a signal to relax, hence the rather cautious press conference yesterday from Boris and Jonathan Van Tam.

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Originally Posted by Witton Park

Far from it. JohnK was the one saying he'd wait to see the long term effects. As the expert on this what timescale would you suggest for assessing the long term effects? I just threw the 10 years in there.

You know me, shoot from the lip.
Overall I'm very positive re Covid. It's melts like you that are struggling.

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"Melts"?

Well I am sure most people on here hold the source of wisdom and calm patience, formerly known as Stolly but currently masquerading as Fellbeast, in high regard; and rightly so.

And for my part, having recently witnessed his most recent private act of erudition and kindness, I will hence forth look up to him as Fell Benevolent.:)