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Danbert, you do make me laugh! Comical Ali would have been proud of that spin!
By the way, Trafford has only existed since 1974:p
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Danbert Nocurry
Crowhill - sorry to get serious on the none serious football thread but i feel as though I must respond to your post.
Manchester City FC was set up by the Manchester City Council in 1894 when Ardwick FC went bust. They wanted a football club to compete in the FA Cup and the newly formed national English league as the representative of Manchester and all Mancunians.
Manchester City FC as a result became heavily involved with the local community and have been for over 100 years. City won Manchester it's first trophies in the Second Division title and FA Cup and would have won many many more if it wasn't for the FA issuing a banning order on dozens of players, managers and boardroom staff, effectively killing the club.
In fact, many of United's earlier trophies, including their first League title, was won by the Manchester CITY players who joined United from City after the banning order as they wanted to stay close to the city itself, including Manchester City Legend Billy Meredith.
Manchester United don't play in Manchester, they play in an area outside the city known as the Borough of Trafford. They used Manchester as a way of gaining recognition due to City's earlier successes. People also forget that travel was nowhere near as proficient as it is today. North, East and South Manchester supported City, the West of Manchester supported United.
From 1920-1950 Manchester City were known by the press as simply 'Manchester FC'
and were the bigger and more popular of the two clubs.
United went 39 years before winning another trophy, City in that time won the League and FA Cup, plus multiple Wartime trophies.
So whereas United fans say their 39 barren spell was caused by two world wars, City can also claim our chances of successes were hindered due to the wars suspending the FA Cup and League, competitions they were more than capable of winning due to the prolific Peter Docherty, who many claim was better than Colin Bell.
The Busby Babes and Old Trafford rebuild after WWII closed the gap considerably and during the 50's and 60's City and United were level pegging. United fell away during the 70's while City continued to compete for titles and trophies with varied levels of successes. It was during the 90's that City crumbled and United went from strength to strength.
It's pure ignorance and snobbery for football fans to suggest that Manchester City has always been this smaller cousin of Man Utd. Maine Road used to hold 80,000 people and regularly sold out 100 years ago. Manchester City's popularity in the area hasn't waivered despite the current 34 year barren spell, but City have only been a 'poor side' since the mid 1990's.
United supporters were VERY quiet until they won their first title for 26 years in 1993. City's fanbase is 'massive' mostly stemming from the popularity of the great sides of the 50's and 60's and the colourful characters we've had here.
City aren't just a football team, they have funded hundreds of projects and without City's financial input and support the Commonwealth Games of 2002 wouldn't have happened.
It's the club of the common working class Mancunian, always has been, always will. If you class yourself as a TRUE Mancunian the likelihood is you will support City.
After such a passionate and informed reply I can only apologize for my ill-informed post.
Shalom.
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john the baptist
later spent over 2 million pounds on Keith curle.
And Terry Phelan!
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On a slightly less serious note, can anyone name, without looking on wikipedia or wherever, the THREE previous names of Manchester City.
Also, which is the only town in England to have had 2 football league teams in the past but none now (lets assume the premier league is part of the football league for this one)
And - easy this one - the only non English team to win the FA Cup
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Ardwick FC is one of City's old names I think.
Is Chester the town?
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Ardwick was one of them - they had 2 names before that.
And no, Chester isn't the town !
Hopefully they will return from the ashes over the summer though..........
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Cardiff won the cup about 80 years ago I think.
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Also, which is the only town in England to have had 2 football league teams in the past but none now (lets assume the premier league is part of the football league for this one)
I had a look at the conference table to jog my memory. Is it Cambridge? (Cambridge United and Cambridge City?)
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No - you were closer (geographically speaking) with Chester.
Cambridge City haven't been in football league.
Cardiff is the correct answer for the FA Cup
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