Welsh 1000s Race

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Originally Posted by Sam Harrison

Not that I was there (or even born), but my Granddad was in the '88 race and accounts for conditions being a lot worse than Saturday - i.e. 100mph winds on the summit of Snowdon.



Completely agree. Fell running is all about self-reliance and it shouldn't the ROs call as to whether everyone in the race will be able to cope - that's up to the individual. In that sense, the Welsh 1000s is safer than a lot of long races in that there are two road crossings where you can drop out should the need be.

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The point I was making whilst I was sucking my pipe and shuffling my slippers is that this is NOT, historically,
a fell race and should therefore not be considered as one. I 100% agree about the self reliance thing, and as Rudolph has just said, you can always withdraw from the event to run the full course....which is what I and other OAP's did back last century!;)

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Originally Posted by Wheeze

The point I was making whilst I was sucking my pipe and shuffling my slippers is that this is NOT, historically,
a fell race and should therefore not be considered as one. I 100% agree about the self reliance thing, and as Rudolph has just said, you can always withdraw from the event to run the full course....which is what I and other OAP's did back last century!;)

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I am very impressed Wheeze - you still crack along very well for an OAP wrinkly !!

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Originally Posted by Wheeze

The point I was making whilst I was sucking my pipe and shuffling my slippers is that this is NOT, historically,
a fell race and should therefore not be considered as one. I 100% agree about the self reliance thing, and as Rudolph has just said, you can always withdraw from the event to run the full course....which is what I and other OAP's did back last century!;)

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A runner got banned for that in the OCT last year... in the Peris I did consider turning off as I wanted to run the full route.. but once at a race you want to race..

I just think maybe its time for a more consistent approach to weather so we know from looking at forecasts if it would be shortened.. it must be a factor in people not wanting to do North Wales races as, despite the organisers statements, many at last years Peris were dissapointed it was shortened...

If you looked at % call offs or shortenings it must be higher in North Wales than the lakes, when it seems very rare a race is shortened. Was it Wasdale which was shortened the other year, but in that instance that was off MRT advice from the summits so in that case I think the organisers hand is very much forced..

I couldn't do the race anyway, so commenting from my armchair, but wasn't part of the decision linked to the marshalls, rather than the runners, having to cope with the conditions?

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Originally Posted by Stuart

I couldn't do the race anyway, so commenting from my armchair, but wasn't part of the decision linked to the marshalls, rather than the runners, having to cope with the conditions?

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Stuart you are correct, that is what was stated, runners and marshalls. This to me is though is trying to lay guilt on the runners for wanting to race and potentially questioning the RO decision. Having spent lots of afternoons, evenings and nights at CPs, it is a great job and they are in a better position to protect themselves from the elements than anyone - Tent up, sleeping bag out, dry warm kit on, flask open and tuck into a huge buttie box and then wait for runners to start checking in - heaven. In fact I would not want to close the CP.

Any photo's anywhere yet?!

Well, now it's been quiet on here for the last 9 months, and with the 2013 race only a month or so away, perhaps it's safe to come back into the room.

Hopefully the weather will be 'ok' this year.:w00t:

I've only done the 'classic route' (2005 and 2007) so would be interested to hear from someone who has done both classic and 5 peaks about how their time differed over each route.

Also, whether there are any top tips for the Y Gribin, as I've only ever done that as a 'walker' many, many years ago!

The new version is longer than the old one provided tha it is not raining, in which case the organisers are happy to reduce the event to a trail/road race as per last year.
The first and only time the race went over Gribin, the whole section was clearly marked. The scramble is quite easy.

Thanks ydt,

on the race website the downloadable maps are of such poor quality (or is it me:confused:) that I wasn't sure of the purple lines going either side of Tryfan were optional routes or different routes for different classes, I take it everyone in the fell race goes over Gribin then.

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Originally Posted by ydt

The new version is longer than the old one provided than it is not raining, in which case the organisers are happy to reduce the event to a trail/road race as per last year.
The first and only time the race went over Gribin, the whole section was clearly marked. The scramble is quite easy.

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Watch it.... you'll have an Eryri sponsored letter of reprimand winging its way over for that one.. :-)

I've not done the new version, would love to some day. The Gribin is very safe.. its by the far the quickest way. Stay high though, just off the crest. I reccied it after it had been flagged and the flags were often too low.. on more chossy ground, potentially more dangerous.

Its only a steep drop on one side and you never get that close to it. But its a stunning position in good weather.

I've done it in rain and snow and with the dogs. and it spits you out at such a specific location that navving to GF is very simple.. then its just finding the line off the shoulder.