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possibly the funniest thing I've read in weeks

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I own up when I make errors.

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Originally Posted by Dave_Mole

possibly the funniest thing I've read in weeks

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In your case it is tragic.
The funniest is you posting to say you don’t post.

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Originally Posted by Dave_Mole

not unless pricks can reproduce by schizogenesis.

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Civil service have done it for years.

nope, I missed this one:

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and wished to see a modicum of integrity and rectitude from people who were commenting on an important issue.

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Originally Posted by Oracle

The funniest is you posting to say you don’t post.

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It's a bit of a paradox, isn't it?

It's because they have no save the world rallies.

So they do a bit of baiting on here.

Two fingers is often the best solution.

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Originally Posted by Stagger

It's because they have no save the world rallies.

So they do a bit of baiting on here.

Two fingers is often the best solution.

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Most of the posts have just been about corona virus and the only disputed points seem to be where people have chosen to do their own sums to draw conclusions rather than perhaps look at the shit load of more expert views available. It was witton park who started calling people pricks for having the cheek to query his ‘wisdom’. Now you stagger are ‘pointing’ two fingers. And what the f*ck are you wittering in about with save the world rallies??

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

It was witton park who started calling people pricks for having the cheek to query his ‘wisdom’.

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If that cap fits, but for someone who likes being straight, that wasn't what I was doing. Have a nice day ;)

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that wasn't what I was doing

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No, you were saying he was a prick and a troll.
Which is all part of a reasonable and fair debate.

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Many complain about the way the forum is going, but do we really need another anonymous prick who appears to be an alter ego of an existing forumite?

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Funny things, double standards.

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

.....draw conclusions rather than perhaps look at the shit load of more expert views available....

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welcome to the forum.
are you interested in economics?

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Originally Posted by Flem

Slightly off-topic, I know...

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But surely that is what makes the Forum so interesting? And what a busy, busy Forum today and not too much about Covid-19.

Which gave me time to reflect on the use of Over and Over in a current TV advert. And who, 62 years after it was written, is getting the royalties for a song that was thrown away by Bobby Day as the B side to this singer/composer's one major hit Rockin' Robin. And here is the mystery or as Noel Coward might have said, "extraordinary how potent cheap music is".

Bobby Day (Born:1932) had been in the Hollywood Flames and wrote their 1957 and only hit, Buzz-Buzz-Buzz (#11 in [/I]Billboard). He then went solo and wrote and recorded Little Bitty Pretty One which only reached #57 but made more money from the Thurston Harris version (#6). In 1958 he wrote and recorded his one big hit Rockin'Robin (#2) b/w Over and Over (#41). After 1958 he never had another Top 40 record and died in 1990 (aged 60).

So just a two hit wonder who had his time in the sun for a couple of years? But no...

In 1965 the Dave Clark Five recorded Over and Over and it went to #1 in Billboard. In fact it was the biggest selling record the DC5 ever had in the USA of their 24 Billboard Hot 100 entries.
In 1972 the Jackson Five took Little Bitty Pretty One to #13
In 1972 Michael Jackson took Rockin' Robin to #2.

So the publishing royalties from these should have earned Bobby Day a million dollars and more.

And right now, 30 years after he died, Over and Over is the soundtrack to a TV commercial and still making money for someone, "cheap music" or not.

Who the hell wants to blah on about a wretched virus when they can have Breeze posting about rock ‘n’ roll? Some very odd folk about

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

Who the hell wants to blah on about a wretched virus when they can have Breeze posting about rock ‘n’ roll? Some very odd folk about

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Haha. Is the Dave Clark 5 technically rock n’roll though 🤔

Hey, it’s not all about Van Morrison

Anyway I’ve got some gardening to do. With a bit of luck when I get back we’ll have had a story about Clapton, Hendrix or James Brown

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

Haha. Is the Dave Clark 5 technically rock n’roll though ��

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Well it certainly wasn't music. Hence their popularity in the USA.

But Mr Clark was one of the sharpest guys in the business. He produced all their records and leased them to record companies and retained all the rights. I also think he paid his band members a salary and kept all the royalties for himself. He later bought the rights to Ready Steady Go since when he has been able to lease the footage to every nostalgia TV show - of which there have been many. And his musical Time (with Cliff Richard!) made more money

Most pop/rock stars were dim, just bothered with "the music" and were robbed.

Mr Clark didn't care about music but just the money and he is as rich as Croesus.

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

Anyway I’ve got some gardening to do. With a bit of luck when I get back we’ll have had a story about Clapton, Hendrix or James Brown

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You mean the Jimmy Hendrix that played in Ilkley?

Absolutely true!

James Brown's later career was interesting, although he didn't age well.

https://www.anthropology.northwester...tus/brown.html

Anyone who wears tweed is okay by me

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Originally Posted by Dave_Mole

No, you were saying he was a prick and a troll.
Which is all part of a reasonable and fair debate.




Funny things, double standards.

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I don't know why I should bother, but my prick comment was about those on the forum who feel the need to have more than one presence. The point could have been made with their established identity.

It goes back many years and was a reason given for a long standing admin stepping down. I think you might remember.

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but my prick comment was about those on the forum who feel the need to have more than one presence.

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and conveniently diverted the argument from how wrong you were.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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Originally Posted by Graham Breeze

Well it certainly wasn't music. Hence their popularity in the USA.

But Mr Clark was one of the sharpest guys in the business. He produced all their records and leased them to record companies and retained all the rights. I also think he paid his band members a salary and kept all the royalties for himself. He later bought the rights to Ready Steady Go since when he has been able to lease the footage to every nostalgia TV show - of which there have been many. And his musical Time (with Cliff Richard!) made more money

Most pop/rock stars were dim, just bothered with "the music" and were robbed.

Mr Clark didn't care about music but just the money and he is as rich as Croesus.

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There were some smart guys in pop, I managed and worked on Roger Daltry's fish farms (for short periods of time), he was pretty business aware even though we could never get through to him that water would not run uphill - even for a pop star.

I’m relieved that the current pandemic and music are being mentioned on the same thread. I’ve recently written a piece for the next Fellrunner which contains references towards the coronavirus, Status Quo and cheeky supermarket employees...amongst other things! Basically it’s my usual unconventional take on fellrunning.

You started on that book yet ‘sticks? How you coping without racing five times per week? Hope all’s well

Hi Andrew, it’s great to see you’re back on the forum. No, I’ve not done anything regarding a book. Races - what the hell are they? All things considered, I’m doing well. Hope you’re good pal?

I was doing good until I overdid the running / walking and developed shin-splints. Rest needed

Pesky shin-splints.

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Originally Posted by Witton Park

The point could have been made with their established identity.

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So you're still calling them a troll, then?

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Originally Posted by Flem

Slightly off-topic, I know, but I remember the first time I saw Bob Dylan perform, at the Bradford Town Hall in 1962. I was conversing with Mr Dylan backstage after the event, and I asked him what he thought could be done to improve safety in fell running. He looked at me for a few seconds and said, rather enigmatically I thought, "Graham, the answer is blowing in the wind, my friend' and then he hit me over the head with his guitar. By the time I'd recovered he'd gone, so I wasn't able to ask him how he knew my name. That conundrum stayed with me down the years until recently when, as I was cycling along the towpath of the Leeds-Liverpool canal, past the detritus of our once impressive engineering heritage, I realised that, at the time I'd spoken to Mr Dylan, I had still been wearing my name badge from the 3rd International Conference on Management in Fell Running held at the Ilkley School of Management where, earlier in the day, I'd made the keynote speech on the topic of the Role of Pedantry in Personnel Management. That explanation satisfied me, but only for a few hours. It was as I was getting out of the shower afterwards that I suddenly thought "But, my name's not Graham! It's Dave."

Off out for a run now. I think I'll listen to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony in the car on the way to the start today.

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Interest in Pedantry in personnel management in the West York’s area, narrows identity down,I suspect To one. A Dylan fan is confirmation.

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Originally Posted by Dave_Mole

and conveniently diverted the argument from how wrong you were.
Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

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good to see you acknowledge you were wrong ;)

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good to see you acknowledge you were wrong

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yet more wibble-wibble.
keep it up!
You're doing great work!

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Originally Posted by molehill

There were some smart guys in pop, I managed and worked on Roger Daltry's fish farms (for short periods of time), he was pretty business aware even though we could never get through to him that water would not run uphill - even for a pop star.

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Maybe he had learnt from the terrible contract The Who signed with Shel Talmy (in one of my books: "a punitive contract") who placed them with American Decca so their British records came out on its British subsidiary Brunswick (a "perilous arrangement").

Eventually after three hits on Brunswick it all went to court, the Who settled and Talmy received 5% on all the records they made for other companies for the rest of the decade.

It is a truism that new signings get ripped off but some artists are more stupid than others. Van Morrison declined to read the contract he signed with Bert Berns (Bang Records) and learnt his lesson. He fell out with Berns (only with Berns?) but after Berns died of a congenital heart condition his widow looked at the contract and concluded that she had Van the Man by the "contractual short and curlies".

And so she had. Berns was a nasty piece of work, he had chosen his wife carefully and she was loyal to his memory.

Never mind the contracts. What about Jimi in Ilkley? Where you there? Are there bootlegs?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/conten..._feature.shtml

There's a comment from a "Graham" :)
who says " I could go on for hours"....

‘ Ilkley. Not exactly the capital of Rock 'n' Roll ‘

Surely some mistake

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Originally Posted by Dave_Mole

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bradford/conten..._feature.shtml

There's a comment from a "Graham" :)
who says " I could go on for hours"....

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I used to go. I saw John Lee Hooker there.

The Troutbeck is now a Care Home

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Originally Posted by Oracle

Interest in Pedantry in personnel management in the West York’s area, narrows identity down,I suspect To one. A Dylan fan is confirmation.

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Mmmh. But didn't I see you in the Flying Duck in Ilkley?

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Originally Posted by Graham Breeze

Mmmh. But didn't I see you in the Flying Duck in Ilkley?

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Slumming it. The Angel at Hetton please!

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Originally Posted by Graham Breeze

But surely that is what makes the Forum so interesting?

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Good post (even though I do say so myself)!

Although I knew the name Bobby Day I wasn't aware that I'd actually heard any of his singing so I've just had a pleasant bit of a session on YouTube. Thanks for steering me to that. I think Ain't Gonna Cry No More is my favourite, although it's a pity about the double-negative and the generally appalling grammar of the title. The use of the word "Ain't" is so vulgar.

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Originally Posted by molehill

I managed and worked on Roger Daltry's fish farms (

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Didn't the Jethro Tull man (who's name escapes me at the moment) also have a fish farm? Was buying a fish farm the rock & roll equivalent of ex footballers buying a pub back in the day? (Although I know that Roger Daltrey hasn't retired!)

Does Roger Daltrey still have his fish farms, do you know, or did he give them all away when he was just a boy? (I know he didn't write that, but his version is better than Leo Sayer's.)