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Me, MrRTS, Winnie and the tent are doing the BGR over 3 days in July/aug/sept (weather depending for when) hopefully that will lead to MrRTS having a go next year at the 24hrs :)
I agree that you should keep the 24hr rule as it's like everything in life it's something of a benchmark aim :thumbup:
For me the aim is to survive doing it over 3 days ;-)
I'd imagine by the time I got to 26hrs, I'd be glad just to finish. But I would want to finish.
In certain respects the time element is somewhat irrelevant to me. But then, I don't race as time and position are somewhat irrelevant to me when it's relative to what others have done or what standards are set.
Horses for courses.
Cant's say I agree with this. A Bob Graham Round is something you do inside 24 hours, it doesnt matter whether it was a brave attempt or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I don't think you read my second sentence, I actually agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Craghopper
I supported a round last year and was nav for leg 5 where the person was only a couple of minutes inside 24hr pace in bad conditions it would have been very harsh if it was just outside you always take a risk if you go on 23.30 schedule thats why i will carry a cushion
I suppose it's time I proffered my view on the matter.
I think among the wider fell running/walking community, virtually everyone would expect anyone claiming to have done the BGR would give a time in under 24 hours.
I think I would be correct in saying, that of the individuals who attempted the BGR, got back to the Moot Hall, but failed to make it in under 24hours, virtually none would say they've done the BGR.
I have immense admiration for individuals who, through various reasons, successfully finish the route of the BGR knowing they have missed the 24 hour deadline. But for me they have only completed the route and not the Bob Graham Round.
Simon
The BGR is already rapidly becoming the London Marathon of the fells so why even think about reducing the challenge further by allowing longer than 24 hrs.
After all there is already a relatively obvious path to follow thus simplifying navigation, which is now mostly taken care of by the use of GPS.
TBH i reckon it is about time, times became quicker simply based on superior equipment, easier pathfinding etc.
As already said the BGR is a route the challenge is the time.
As to weather so what, choose the right equipment and train in all weathers and just get on with it.
I've done the BGR twice. First one in summer in 23:32 on a half dry, half wet but very light and warm day and the second one in 24:22 on December 18 2009 in arctic conditions, minus 10 and lower temperatures, a grim northerly blizzard for the last 6 hours and 16 hours of darkness. Guess which one I'm most proud of?
Achievement in the mountains is personal. Time is but one measure.
The 24 club and and the round itself are two very different things. One's a club, the other is a personal experience. Both great and wonderful institutions but different.
Well said.Quote:
Achievement in the mountains is personal. Time is but one measure.
Achievement in the mountains is personal. Time is but one measure.
well said
ill second that .