my first time on this one, and what a cracker!
well organised, and great atmosphere on a big turnout (both generally and forum-wise)
Many Thanks to all involved in putting it on! :thumbup:
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my first time on this one, and what a cracker!
well organised, and great atmosphere on a big turnout (both generally and forum-wise)
Many Thanks to all involved in putting it on! :thumbup:
Good work boys!Quote:
Originally Posted by ba-ba
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As I explained at the time, it was mainly my 25th place that won it for the team. However, I shouldn't forget the minor contribution of my team-mates in 3rd and 6th! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dynamo Dan
But seriously, it would have been different if Stuart Bond had been running rather than standing out on the course shouting encouragement. If you're reading this Stuart, I hope your not injured.
who won? I left just before prizes.Many fast runners out
very well organised event, and fun to do a race 'off patch'. The organisers have every reason to be proud of themselves.
Just want to mention what a great turn out with numbers up from last year. I want to mention my junior race and a big thank you to all helpers, you know who you are and well done to all of the kids. Not a massively hilly course but with 2 laps more x country than fell it gives the kids a good work out.
See you at the Hope Race and Fit as a butchers dog.
Ps I`ll be handing out jelly babies with the kids on Sunday outside my house (Edale rd) for those running the Skyline. Cheers Mark
Jonny Crickmore (or Cricklemore as he is now renamed) from Sheffield Uni won in 39:20ish - another young GB orienteer (19 years old).Quote:
Originally Posted by MickTor
No massive names out, but a good pack of people between 2-15th or so made for a good fight to fight against.
I'm presuming Mr. Bond was resting up for Edale - something that a few more of us should have been doing as well, but when there's hills ya gotta go play! :o
Oh yes, the 2-15 blurrs in the distance!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ba-ba
Well done to Mr Cricklemore thats a great time!
When there's hills indeed!
When will the results be ready? :-)
Very happy with my time this year. 4 mins and 56 secs taken off my PB :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brett
Thanks for the results link, pleased with my effort! I would honestly run it again next week given the chance it was great race
Dear All,
Are there any photos knocking around?
Ta
Truck
Hi Truck
There are these on Facebook taken by the guys at Accelerate http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...7740491&type=1
Cheers
Dan
Thanks Dan :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by DanTheDalesMan
Any videos yet?
Can someone answer me a question about this race from a beginner's perspective? Hopefully by the time the race is next run I won't be so wet behind the ears and so this sort of thing won't matter, but....
It's advertised on the FRA site as having the full set of special requirements PM / ER / NS / LK (I have none of the latter 3 currently), but having a look at the race profile on Racemaps, John says that "The seniors’ course was well marked and marshalled and presented no navigation difficulty in good weather, even for slower runners, because there was usually someone within sight to follow" and also "I have no hesitation recommending this race to all standards of fell runners, including beginners".
Obviously just blindly following someone is a bad idea, but the FRA description and John's clash somewhat.
Can anyone shed any light on this for an increasingly confused novice, as this isn't the first time I've seen this kind of thing. It's potentially off-putting to someone like myself to see lots of requirements for a race only for someone to say "nahh, you're alright". I don't want to turn up and get into difficulty.
The obvious answer is to learn to tick all the boxes by becoming experienced, and learning to navigate of course. LK is something I will be lacking, but I won't exactly be challenging for places up the field so I can live without that I guess!
Rasher - I think it all comes down to the weather. This year's race was very easy to navigate. Visibility was perfect so you could see the whole landscape in front of you, you could see lots of other runners and as you say, it was marshalled at every turn. No need to use a map or any navigational skills. Was just like a cross country race on steroids.
But if the mist and fog came down it would be a very different situation. You'd need to be able to navigate properly or you'd be taking a big chance that just following other people would get you round.
I can't argue with any of the above Vic - I'm sure you're quite right. If anything it was the "recommended to beginners" comment that threw me, as that is exactly what I am and from your comment about the weather becoming inclement, it would have meant that I would have potentially got into difficulty - definitely not what you want to happen as a beginner!
Try not to overthink it, the official race descriptions almost always state ER, my take on it this is:
"ER = are you competent and able enough to sort *yourself* out if something happens, such as a turn in the weather or if you get injured at the furthest point of the course".
So that gives a lot of scope for many ER races still being suitable for beginners - if you've prepared.
So: you might not have any racing experience, but if you know the area (most races publish checkpoints or maps), maybe have given yourself a reccy of the course (where allowed - parts of this course were out of bounds, but you can still get up onto that moor to get a feel for the course) - then you can satisfy yourself that even without racing experience, you are safe enough to be out. Or, alternatively, perhaps you don't know the area at all but you are capable of using a map and compass (and also capable of carrying them with you - a rare skill indeed) - then again, you are safe to be out on a course like Wolf's Pit, even though you are a race beginner.
Same thing with kit: you might not have raced before, but if you have read and understood the race organiser's kit requirements, and are prepared to carry that kit, then you *do* have some experience!
What ER means for me is: "don't think of turning up for this race if you only own road shoes, or if you think that if you get lost it is the organisers fault, or if yot think that carrying kit is all a bit of a faff and really applies to other people". All Fell Races should qualify for this description!
Every single race is different, and some degree of study is always needed so that you can ascertain if *you* can run it safely. A beginner would be stupid to start with Ben Nevis or the Trigger as their first race, but given that Wolf's Pit is relatively short, over relatively easy terrain, and has a large field of runners - in most conditions it is indeed ideal for beginners.
[Similarly with LK: every fell race worth its salt will have LK as an advantage. But that shouldn't stop you entering, if once again you know you are capable of completing the course safely. But as a beginner you probably want to go somewhere where you can reccy or have some previous local knowledge]
Thanks Rich; I didn't realise you replied to my earlier post - sorry about that!
You raise plenty of questions for me to think about.
I am approaching (like many I expect) from a purely road and XC background, and I haven't been at that long!
As you know, on the road, courses are well marked out and marshalled, there's no need for navigation (usually!) so running is quite a straightforward concept for me - I start, follow the course and/or the other runners, and go home!
I have only done one fell race up to now, which was Wincle Trout, and it was perfect. Tough but a decent distance for me, well marshalled, lots of runners and easy to find your way around. As I'm building confidence it's these kinds of races I am trying to target in the early days, but even this is a minefield! I wouldn't go as far as to say simple races, but what I'm looking for is something 10K or under and flagged / marshalled from start to finish, or as close as it gets to this :D
However, I am ticking off my bits of kit steadily as I go so when the time comes I will have everything I need to do a fair few fell races, although I don't do a whole lot over 10 miles! I have no nav experience but I will be taking care of this soon. Hopefully by the end of the year I will be less of a novice.
I think I will refrain from hijacking this thread with my ramblings any further, but if anyone would be as kind as to offer any further help or advice, please PM me.
Thanks!
Anyone heading to Wolf's Pit on Sunday from Nottingham/Notts/Long Eaton/Derby way? Based in Nottingham & looking for a lift in exchange for petrol money, plus possibly some homebrew & cake!
Photos are being sorted out, cropped etc. Can't load many at a time. If you would like any images, please feel free to PM me and I'll send the image to you. All I ask is that you consider sending a donation to http://malarianomore.org.uk/ or if you see me at any other race, then throw me any small change you may have. This will be donated to the above to raise money for mossie nets.
I'll keep adding to the photos as they are done. Be patient. The dog is desperate for her walk. Being a border, it will take a while!
Wolf's Pit Photos
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Thanks very much to the RO, marshalls and land owners. This is one of my favourite races. Really enjoyed it again this year.
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FIRST 100 images now loaded! Dog walked
Comments in the Flickr boxes would be much appreciated. Feedback helps me to improve my "style" and skills. Cheers
Great race today! Almost perfect running conditions, just a bit windy!
2nd running of it and I had forgotten just how hard it is!
The last descent is brilliant!
Thanks to all involved, I really enjoyed it!
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Originally Posted by backtothefells
Now up to 200 images.
Great photos :)Quote:
Originally Posted by backtothefells
Simon Bailey in a New Record, ahead of Kris Jones DP, by the way...
couldn't tell you the ladies. Weren't there.
Here's my blog entry with almost no mention of today's race: http://noels-training.blogspot.co.uk...ana-go-go.html
Weren't there a lot of runner there today? And quite a few good ones too.
I might have been 18th, but had to take a small detour to retrieve my glove on the final descent - I had tucked it into my shorts and it flew off in the wind. In fairness, the guy who gained the place went on to pull away on the road and field, so I probably wouldn't have beaten him anyway.
Great race today. The wind made it tough. Spent most of the race tucked up close behind the runners in front hiding from the wind:). Managed poor excuse of a sprint finish.
This set haven't been cropped or sorted yet. A few repeats from set one I'm afraid. My mind has gone blank.
Will improve them some time this week. Duty calls!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/926730...7642457853913/
Not sure how to GET these photos to the organisers of the race. Can't find a contact email for their web site. Please send this link if you know how to contact them.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/92673091@N08/sets/
Great photos - thanks.
You are welcome - people look at them, but it would be great to get feedback on the ones they like and why. It's what keeps me motivated to go out and take them.
:)
Much appreciated!Quote:
Originally Posted by MickTor
I've posted a link to your photos on my Facebook page. Search, Peak District Fell races.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtothefells
You are a star! Will I be able to convince my other half to let me out for the Edale Skyline AND Lad's Leap the week after...? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Racing Snake
Hope so backtothefells,as they're good clear pics.And I'm doing those 2 races too!
I'm no expert photographer,and I asssume it would be more difficult with the speed of the runners,but can you get the runners in full flight side-on on a downhill?Rather than us struggling uphill!!