I've been horrible to Carlos and said he talks bollocks as well, but nobody has had a go at me....don't my astute observations count :angry:?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
I agree with you nikalas, but I know *eck all about cycling.
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I've been horrible to Carlos and said he talks bollocks as well, but nobody has had a go at me....don't my astute observations count :angry:?Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
I agree with you nikalas, but I know *eck all about cycling.
Oh Mole.
You naughty naught person. Wait till the forum police come.
Fancy commenting on a subject you know now't about.
I'm off to watch the tour, so I can pass judgement on this thread tomorrow....
Those of you pining for the good old days of drug-fuelled panache and élan will no doubt be having wet dreams at the thought of Bertie "The Beef" Contador returning after his ban and riding in the Vuelta.
[QUOTE=Stagger;493888]Oh Mole.
You naughty naught person. Wait till the forum police come.
Fancy commenting on a subject you know now't about.
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Bless you for noticing me.
I too shall be turning on the Devil box shortly, and be even more of an expert by tomorrow :rolleyes:.
Well admittedly this tour has not been the greatest TV spectacle so far but no-one can deny that Sky have been impressive.
Wiggins surely deserves the Yellow jersey and it is down to the likes of Evans and Nibali to try and wrest it from him. Evans doesn't seem to have the legs and Nibali will have to try something before friday.
Also, those bemoaning the lack of attacking riding in the modern era seem to have pretty short memories. Only last year saw we saw Tommy Veocklers heroics to stay in yellow for 10 days, Andy Schlek's 60km breakaway to Col de Galibier and Pierre Rolland's fantastic win on Alpe d'Huez.
fignon not exciting? heres a little youtube of his, 1984 la plagne. i think it may be to exciting for a wiggo fan. if you like tt so much you should get yourself up on any A road on a sunday morning and bore yourself mental.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKBacb2VgKY
breezie has it spot on an that possibly is the first time we have agreed.
oh molie, it's not about the comonwealth, i am an internationalist and i want to see the best rider win. i couldn't careless for nationalism.
The best rider will win.
Its will be the one with the lowest time that completes all the stage's.
No, he's lovely. Especially in the dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
Always thought he'd make a good Dracula, imagine walking into a spooky mountain top castle and he breezes down the stairs with a "I am Count Dracula, I bid you velcome"Quote:
Originally Posted by swift
I'm not too sure why but this year its felt a bit 'Tour de France Lite' to me. I'm overjoyed (and excited) by the prospect of Wiggins or Froome winning it. Its definately lacked BIG stages and BIG personalities/competitors. But sometimes its what happens, the big shots slip away and new guys come along, rivialries develope overtime. I kind of think thats what it lacks wether its Shleck-Contador, LeMond-Fignon or, potentially Wiggins-Nibaldi. Looking forward to the Pyrennes, lets hope it does 'kick-off' a bit more there!!
I reckon one of these GC contenders needs to get himself some steak down his cake hole, that seems to help rider performance
Well I for one am loving Every Minute of it. Love the whole thing, ridders, support, spectators ( except the kn** with the tacks). I think Team Sky are superb as they are as far as I can see the only real TEAM in the tour. You won't see Bradley isolated like some of the the other Team Leaders. Nor will you see him ignored by a fellow team mate when he is punctured ;-) or in trouble. No one is attacking so who can blame Sky for preserving energy for when it's needed over the next 3 days.
Bradley is a man totally in control and so strong at the moment due to some amazing team work. I love the yellow jersey on him and long may it continue ........ All the way to Paris :-)
Oh btw I'm not an expert ( I'm still after my goal of getting all the way up Mam Nick without stopping) I'm just a massive cycling fan :-)
Jimmy Carr is the surprise leader of the Tour de France after yesterday's sabotaged stage.
He managed to avoid all the tacks.
agree pretty much with all of that. Think it is also due to the slightly disappointing route choice this year with only two mountain finishes and a lot of TT miles. Though you could argue that is more representative of 'normal cycling'. Maybe it's the burnish of history but there seemed to be something a bit more ..... momentous about Armstrong, even when he was totally dominating.Quote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
I'd be really delighted to see Sky & BW take the GC - it would be amazing for UK cycling and the profile of the sport here generally - but I would also hope for a more exciting Tour next year.
Yesterday's stage was as dull as dishwater but I don't blame sky for not chasing the break down. However, I do feel a little sorry for Cav having to play domestique but I suppose aiming for a bunch sprint is not a good plan when you have the yellow jersey. Could well end in a bunch pile-up with Wiggo at the bottom!Quote:
Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy
If Nibali or Evans hold any asperations of toppling the Sky duo then they have to make their move in the next 2 days.
Let hope for some fireworks from those two to liven things up. (But hopefully not too much! Enough to take the jersey and then Wiggo to take it back in the TT would be quite entertaining though!)
Hope Sky are serious about lining up the Champs Elysee for Cav - looks like that may be his only other chance of a stage win this year.
But who would you have as leader for Sky - Wiggo or Froom?Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
On current form and looking at last year's Vuelta, I'd have to say that Froom looks the stronger grand tour rider of the two, especially in the mountains.
I don't think there's room for them both in the same team. But apparently Froome just signed a v lucrative contract, which presumably would cost somebody a lot to release him from.Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
It being the 100th tour next year I think it will be full of classic climbs, could be interesting who leads team Sky, but not sure it will matter if Bertie and Schleck are back. By the way, just great to see Wiggo in Yellow, even if it is a bit boring to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
Froome will lead Sky next year. It's the centenary tour and it's going to be mountainous as you like. Wiggo might start out leading but he'll crack and it'll be an epic Contador V Froome battle. I can't bleeding wait for that!!
OK so far
BG rode a great prologue
Cav won a stage
BG won the TT taking time out of his nearest rival
BG then takes further time out of his nearest rival who is now over 2 minutes behind. with the help of Froome but that is what team mates are there for. Froome even becomes No 2 in the race.
Then, there has been very little attacking from the rivals and what little there has been has been dealt with.
Over 2 minutes ahead why is BG being criticised? surely the onus is on Cadel and crew to attack. the onus is not on BG to liven things up (even though he did try and give a team mate a lead out. how many times have you seen the yellow jersey do that). Sky have now managed to hit the Pyranees relatively fresh but so has everybody else so can we expect all hell to break loose tomorrow on a very very tough stage. but again the onus is not on BG to attack unless he wants act stupidly.
we are so close to getting our first Bristish winner of the tour and I am sure all is not over yet and it is not a dead cert yet he will be in yellow in Paris so for me this is a very exciting tour and we should all be getting behind him. whether Froome should be team leader is not important. other yellow jersey holders have had Lieutenants capable of of doing more but they have a job to do and there is no saying that once they have put a stage winning effort in that they can repeat it next day and quite often the reverse. that is why it is hard to read into what will happen tomorrow because any gains tomorrow could be countered by losses the following day if they overdo it.
I for one will be glued to the progress tomorrow as I believe it may be a key day in this years tour.
Come on Wiggo, bring that jersey home!!!!
wow is that true? when was the sample taken?Quote:
Originally Posted by shadbolt
If you click on the link you'll be able to read all about it :rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by geronimo
Performance-enhancing drugs? I'd ask for my money back if I was him.Quote:
Originally Posted by shadbolt
BBC: "Tour de France leader Bradley Wiggins has promised to support Chris Froome's attempts to win the famous race."Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/18877975
well there's the answer to that one!
Earlier, the UCI said in a statement 32-year-old Schleck had been informed of an "Adverse Analytical Finding (presence of the diuretic Xipamide based on the report from the WADA accredited laboratory in Chatenay-Malabry) in the urine sample collected from him at an in competition test at the Tour de France on 14 July 2012".Quote:
Originally Posted by shadbolt
Xipamide, a diuretic, is normally used for the treatment of oedema and hypertension. RadioShack said the substance "was not present in any of the medicine that the team uses".
Because Xipamide falls into a special category of substances under the World Anti Doping Code called 'Specified Substances', Schleck has a chance to prove his innocence. The UCI explained: "The UCI Anti-Doping Rules do not provide for a provisional suspension given the nature of the substance, which is a specified substance."
Diuretics are not considered performance-enhancing but can be used to help riders lose weight, and therefore perform better in the tough mountain stages of the race. More ominously, they can also conceal the presence of a banned drug by helping to flush it from the body through increased urination.
Anyone a bit worried about Froome? Almost come from nowhere, can pace Wiggins and still look as if he could ride away from him, disease of the red blood cells. Probably nothing but that's what decades of watching cycling does for you.
Comes from the same place as all the Kenyan greats?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadlegs
Its not about Wiggo & Froome its about who Dave says the team have to support.
If they had competed at lone riders my money would still be on Wiggo.
It's all very well testing the riders for performance enhancing drugs but has anyone tested them for elan and panache?Quote:
Originally Posted by shadbolt
:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Yep kenyan by birth - Father is British.Quote:
Originally Posted by dominion
Sky/British cycling set up is second to none at the moment so take a good athlete and give him the training, expertise and tech that they have at their disposal and that's what you get. Possibly next year's tour winner?
You missed probably the most important thing - CASHQuote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
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Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Yes but they didn't get a positive reading.
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Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Would that not make it Rythmic Gymnastics!
This here forum needs a like buttonQuote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
The current Sky set up for some reason reminds me of the England rugby squad in the run up to the 2003 WCQuote:
Originally Posted by PeteS
Does anyone know what Cav's contract length is with Sky, I can see why he is there this year. But what's in it for him next year?
World title and Green last yearQuote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
Olympics this year (bet he wins Sundays stage, Its his fav)
Not doing bad.
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Originally Posted by PeteS
mmm, that could turn into a Hinault-LeMonde style situation - though that's a slightly flattering comparison for the Sky riders at this stage.