You could never be accused of being boring Stolly;)
Southern................maybe:D
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Stolly I remember you said it was like a millstone this report, but the photos are brill, just keep posting them Please, they are good even for an incomer
Okay I'm over my wobble. I might try and kick start this again although I'm camping in Glencoe all next week so it might be a week or two before it gets going again.
And hey guess where the midge forecast is red level 5 :rolleyes: :D
Stolly, a little random but.
How long did it take you to do the three peaks back whenever it was (the ben, scafell p and snowdon three peaks)
Its just that a few folks from sainsburys did it last weekend (they didnt flippin tell me they where doing it!) and wanted to compare your athletic eliteness to their not so athletic eliteness.:rolleyes:
I Led a group of lawyers round a couple of weeks ago and they did it in just under 25 hours but the M6 was closed at 2 points and we had big diversions also they listen to a satNag rather than me which took a longer route:mad::rolleyes:
Personally I would get rid of the 24 hour target(I know it sounds like more of a challenge) and have a 30 hour window with the challenge being on the hill.
Eg gold time sub 13 hour for all hills
silver sub 14 hours
Bronze sub 15 hours
Merit for completion in under 17
It would stop people driving like lunatics to get under the time and I know some events have a time restriction for driving (can't turn up at next Road CP until 5.30 hours have passed ) but all they do is drive fast and try get some food and rest before clocking in.:mad:
Makes good sense to me
Al there were just three of us and we shared the driving, the road back down towards Loch Lomond from Glencoe was closed for repairs after 10 pm so we had a good 45 minute diversion, we stopped for coffees twice and couldn't park at Pen y Pass and had to eventually start right down in the valley before hacking up Snowdon. I also mis navigated a bit in Cumbria trying to find our way to Wastwater (it was 3 in the morning). Added to that the weather was humungously bad (especially for early June) with a blizzard on Ben Nevis, a howling gale, bitter wind chill and a raging blizzard on Scafell Pike as well as strong winds and pouring rain on Snowdon (the welsh 1000m race was abandoned that day). My running partners were less fit than me too. All the same we finished in 19:59 :)
If we had a driver and better conditions it would have been around the 18 hour point but, to be honest, I'm glad the weather and everything was against us. It made what really is just a logistical thing into a proper adventure. (In mild weather it could have been a minor disappointment). As for the frigging pyg track up Snowdon, even in foul weather it was packed with walkers and tourists :(
Jesus you sounds like you really didnt have much in your favour!
You time compared to the sainsburys lot is amazing.
The first guy finished in 23:30 hours and out of a bus load that started on 6 finished.
But in the first guys defence, he is actually pretty fit and i was talking to him about it on saturday and he said he was having to wait for everyone at the bottom for ages each time, and the driver didnt have a clue where he was going.
Im presuming you ran as much as you could with that time?
We ran all of the downs, half way up the Ben, all but the middle section on Scafell (up top if we hadn't have kept running we'd have died) and pretty much all the way up Snowdon. Not hard though. My biggest achievement was wearing shorts on every mountain, including an exceptionally painful time on Scafell - I had to put on an emergency third glove for willy warming purposes :) :rolleyes:
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Crickey bobs....looked ace though.:D
Third glove..... Good idea.
My times shown above are based on a walkers group (like your sainsbury group). I ended up carrying 3 rucsac at one point to keep to schedule:o
too much driving in it for me to make it fun. I'd rather do 5 hills in Scotland:)
either way thats a good time Stolly, how long did it take you just on the hill?
I only timed Ben Nevis which was just under 3 hours. Could have easily gone up quicker too. Scafell and Snowdon together might have been another 4.5 but the weather on Scafell was so bad (read fantastically good in a bad way... that was good) that I didn't think of timing it and therefore didn't bother timing Snowdon either. Like I said our run up Snowdon had to start right at the bottom of the hill too, although we did stop the clock at Pen y Pass at the finish.
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I might come back to fill in the gap :D (ooh er vicar etc)
Okay I'm going to try and give this another go :rolleyes:
11th August 2009 - an awesome run out of Horton, past Horton Scar to Hull Pot, a diagonal from there following the trail in the direction of Foxup before hacking up the side of Plover Hill. I then ran the whales back of a ridge line through the bogs to the trig on Pen y Ghent before plumetting down the fantastic descent from there, making a bee line for Hull Pot. Then I scooted over Whitber Hill and took a fairly unused track all the way to the Pennine Way track that brought back into Horton, right by the pub funnily enough!
Maybe 8 or 9 miles and getting on for 1,800 feet. In 1 hour and 36 minutes.
This sign looks like its been there forever, it says Warning Deep Bog. Nothing new there but you have to wonder at the randomness of it - completely in the middle of nowhere, with getting on for 50 square miles of boggy moorland all around. Why just the one sign and why bother, really?
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One of the best descents ever all laid out before me. A long curving loop off of Pen y Ghent avoiding virtually all the crap and rubble of the Pennine Way, aiming for Hull Pot (just off picture beyond the small pool in the mid distance on the left).
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Looking back from the top of Whitber Hill:
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Nice one Stolly
Time sounds good for "Just a Training run", want extra info like the Grid Ref for the sign;)
Cheers Stolly
Will have a look for that next time I am in thearea
Hi Stolly,
You didn't deem being accosted by a pair of forumites worthy of reporting??? :D
I suspect he hasn't gotten over the shock of it yet :D
12th August - a maybe 6 mile circuit up Whernside from Ribblehead following the fell race route straight up the steep face of Whernside, then haring down to the other side in the direction of Chapel le Dale but turning left above the farm at Bruntscar and trotting through the fields, under the arches of the viaduct and back to Ribblehead. Certainly 1500 feet of climb with the first what 2.5 to 3 miles up to the trig taking 42 minutes. 1 hour 9 altogether :)
Looking up towards Whernside from the tunnel under the railway line:
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Some sheep, Ingleborough and Pen y Ghent viewed from the trig point:
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The fast line off of Whernside:
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Isn't the fell race route up Whernside only open on race day, with all race instructions asking us not to use the route at any other time as it may jeopardise relations with the landowner and therefore the race?
Blimey, what are you my shadow or something, always looking to nit pick and find fault?
For what its worth I find myself running all over the place and often over land off the beaten track but I've never had any problems with farmers and often bump into them en route. In fact all of the farmers I've ever met in the Dales are really friendly and have absolutely no problems with the odd solo runner.
The fell race route up Whernside isn't run or walked by hardly anyone, particularly at this time of year, and I suspect the use by runners of the side of Whernside might only become a problem in the build up to the actual race itself. Its open moorland for christ's sake with sheep and a few cattle allowed to graze all over Winterscales Pasture - I was a tiny speck in a huge landscape yesterday pattering up that hill and I was doing no harm to man or beast.
In future I will of course get all my planned runs vetted by you in person before setting off..................... not!!
Not nitpicking I just find it interesting the things you appear to advocate on an open forum, in the last 3 weeks or so you have appeared to endorse falsifying experience on race entry forms, caused a furore and a call for a forum conduct of conduct based on "gay " comments and now admit to open trespass on a route we are asked not to train on. (and indeed I have been steered away from going up by forum members on the grounds of not wanting to spoil it for others, there is also an alternative official footpath to the left of the race route that serves as well).
Its up to you if you want to trespass, but do really want to tell everybody about it?
You are not also posting as the General or whoever it was and endorsing the use of illegal substances as well are you?
I have come to the conclusion this is part of deliberate policy by yourself to get the forum closed down, could you tell me why & do you want some help with this;)
Antisocial just bugger off okay. You are now officially a total tosspot. By all means pm me rather than ruin this thread (although I promise to ignore you completely), or start another 'I love nitpicking thread'. Either way and I mean this most politely..........
Two words...
First word:
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Second word:
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;)
He's winding you up Stolly;)
Nice comeback though:D
Duck Flu? Is this the new strain of swine flu? If you go just past the 3 peaks race route there's a perfectly reasonable scramble up with stiles and marked paths on open access land...
Yes Dom I realise I could follow the main drag up to the top of Whernside but that's not nearly so much fun and it doesn't have the added bonus of annoying AS either :).
My route up went through totally unrestricted open access land too. Most of the Yorkshire Dales National Park is open access and pretty much all of the mountain tops and moorland is.
oh and just to add, I was a "total toss pot" well before you conferred the honour on me, but thank you anyway:D
12th September - I was supposed to be taking my elder daughter back to university yesterday but her badly thought out, last minute plan to get her flat key from any of three flat mates (who weren't at the flat themselves) failed, as I always knew it would, and instead I found myself having to go for a run instead.
I went for a humdinger of a run too, something like 18 miles and 2,800 feet of climb in wall to wall sunshine and 'torrid' heat.... well 18 degrees anyway. The route went up through the fields out of Settle to Lambert Lane, along that to High Hill Lane which I followed until just past Scaleber Force, before hacking through 'open access' moorland with cotton grass up to the gun'oles, High Greet on the map, up to the old radar mast, then following the wall and hitting the trig on Rye Loaf Hill. From there I picked up the main Settle to Malham bridleway which I followed for a bit before hacking off the side of Kirby Fell down into Malham. From Malham I took the path parallel to Gordale Beck, through the woods at Janet's Foss and up the waterfall onto the tops at Gordale Scar.
I was now at the furthest point from home and had already drank most of my water, just as ironically all the springs and streams disappeared from my route! I was sweating like a pig on a stick and getting very thirsty.
I hacked back along the top overlooking the Gordale valleyand dropped down to the track heading to Malham Cove, had a bad vertigo moment overlooking the cove from the east side and then went up Ing Scar before crossing the top lane out of Malham at Langscar Gate. It was then just a case of following the bridleway in the direction of Langcliffe for what seemed like a very, very long time.
I was now caked in salt crystals from the heat and my mouth was a dry as dust. I still had a little water but I was trying to conserve that. Randomly in the middle of this track I passed a 6 mile marker, put there I guess for today's Malham trail race, but I never did see a 5 mile marker before it or a 7 mile marker after ???
Finally after what felt like a trek through the gobi desert, albeit with fabulous views of the three peaks on one side, I branched off the path and went through Attermire Scar before doing the last climb of the run up to the trig on Warrendale Knotts. I now drank my last water, which barely made a difference at all to my raging thirst, and pretty wearily staggered down the final drop back into Settle.
A brilliant run but one that left me sun burnt and frazzled by the 'raging Yorkshire Dales heat'. Luckily when I got home my daughter dragged me over to Stainforth where we plunged into the swimming hole for a much needed cool off.
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Full set of pictures taken on this run can be found here
Good'un Stolly...all on "my" land too. Did you see any Salmon leapin' at Stainforth Foss?
ps...will 'ave to sort that "filmin' run" wi' you sometime.
How've I gone all year and not dipped into this thread? Shame on me. Just read the first page or so whilst sat bored in a Roadchef on the M6. Will endeavour to read the rest this week.
Also inspired me to take my camera out with me on my runs. Would have had some great shots this weekend off Pendle. I fear the opportunities for similar views will be few and far between over the rest of the year. Then again, if you'd have joined us...;)
Will your adventures take you over to Pendle this Sunday?
Nice one Stollmeister! :)