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It's not only wrong, it makes a mess of the whole club system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Witton Park, if you need me to run a xc for your club let me know and I will run for your club for a race. Open to offers from other clubs as well.
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Dark Peak results from DP siteQuote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
Ladies - 1st
Seniors - 2nd
Vets - 1st
V50's - 3rd
well done guys, girls included of course.:D
I'll have to wait another 6 years before I get in team and then only if half the team drop out:o:D
...sounds like wharfeego and me had the same epic as yous twixt 4 to 5:) We ended up contouring back on some rather delightful scree...:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Some photos from today:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/TommoP...CKmAvL74zpesbA#
Please ignore date, forgot to reset.
Also conditions not good so some not to clear!
Well organised by CFR, a testing day to say the least.
No doubt a piece of cake when no clag !!
How about Pennine Bridleway Andi?Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadrunner
If it has to be a Cross Country, you can come and do the Northern at Witton for us - fond memories for you - that was probably the best I've seen anyone run around Witton.
I think my team might have something to say about it!
We are thinking of entering a team or two in PWB relays.
Would invlve some checking out of the route.
Looking forward to the Northerns and Nationals next year. At least the northerns being at WP will mean they run smoothly.
Enjoyed nav leg. Proper fell running with great mix of terrain. Having an ace navigator as team mate, who spent a day or two recceing, might have helped ;):cool:
Did leg one meself....superfast, all runable.Recced leg 2wo on sat and thought it was a real hard slog, but what a difference in weather, more like a summers day on the sat.
Rather than going over old news that has been sanctioned by both the FRA and UKA on a thread dedicated to the UKA Rleays start another thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadrunner
Where were Salford today?
in salford presumablyQuote:
Originally Posted by delicious
Great event today, very well organised, and a cracking little area. Shame about the weather - s'pose that depends on your nav ability but personally I would have preferred it a bit more scenic!
Good to see the rules been applied properly on leg 4. The CP was at the end of a fantastic trod/path which ran all the way from the start field, so there was no real excuse!
Just got back from the relays. I have a enjoyable day, despite the weather & our team being D/Q'd for missing 2 check points.
Many thanks to all the organisers for putting on an excellent event, the grub was good too & very welcoming. :)
Hope the marshal who has broken their leg got to hospital swiftly & hope they are ok. :(
The marshals who stood out there all day today are heroes, it must have been awful. :D
Thanks to everyone involved.
Well if its sanctioned then thats fine. At least it sets it clear for everyone else to do the same. Whats good enough for one athlete is good enough for all.Quote:
Originally Posted by delicious
Salford didn't enter the relays due to it being the National Road Relays the day before.
Just seen Mrs Stagger's Nav map.
Good to see the clag was down other wise it would just have been follow mi leader again.
Its time we got back to proper navigation and let the runners attempt to pick the route.
PS She says well done to the organisers for a fab day:)
Problem was though Trevor, there's not that many features to navigate from and it really works in the favour of the local teams or those that have managed to recce thoroughly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
Features all over the place, fences, streams, valleys, rocky bits, edges of forests - what more do you need? Yes the mist was down - just meant you couldn't see so many of the features and the bigger picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Very enjoyable day out, only pain in the proverbial was the queue on the M6 on the way back.
Great piccies Tomsk. Pity you didn't get any at the start of leg 3 when the clag really set in. On the navvi leg we passed about 4 teams before CP2, but then a slight detour to Blake Fell between CP4 and CP5 lost us about 10 mins. I don't think we the only ones scratching around in the clag.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomsk
All in all a challenging day out and considering we were on unknown and unreccied terrain we did a good job.
Thanks to CFR for putting on the event and Wilfs for the usual grub at the finish. All the day cost me was £8 and that was my share of the fuel costs. Beat that !
I agree to a degree up to CP2 was OK CP2-3 not bad - CP5 - Finish also OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by DMcC
But CP3-4-5 was hard work - there were lots of pairs struggling - even the fence that runs from Blake Fell to Burnbank doesn't have any helpful junctions on it to help if you are going CP4-5.
I've done 2 FRA relays now - + several races that needed navigation and today is the first time I've had difficulty reading the terrain.
NB. I'm not one of those that would call for the NAV leg to be abolished.
A Blackberry was found by a team mate and handed in today. It belonged to a Mr Helm.
If anyone knows them, will you please let them know.
I can tell you that too - the big climb was either awesome or awful depending on your piont of view! (Also the drive back down the M6 was testing and tough going!) Feeling it for the first three who were DSQ'd, especially Tim cos he almost needed a parachute on the last descent!Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Great running and a great day - big big thanks to CFR:)!
That's very honest. I would have just eaten it.
Many Thanks to Cumberland Fell Runners for putting a great event on today.Everyone from Northumberland Fell runners wish to thank you.Surely fell running is about having the skill to navigate in any weather is a primary part of being a fell runner.It is becoming more and more apparent the "follow the lad ahead" approach is not the way to go(i have done it).I reckon speaking from a personal point of view that everyone should do a navigation course wheteher it be the twice yearly FRA courses or a Nav-Art course.it was great to watch the final descent of the leg 4 runners and i was especially impressed by Tim Davies,Simon Booth and our very own Nick Swinburn.Awesome!!!
How did your Northumbrian team do Gaz?Quote:
Originally Posted by gazj1979
Will we ended up in 10th overall after the DQs.Think the lads were quite pleased with that.Phil S had a good run coming in 8th after the first leg.Myself and will lost 3 places but found the second leg really tough especially the long climb up the wet boggy s**t.Francis and late replacement Dave Steel fought hard but lost a few places then Nick ran well but got a bit lost but still made a few places up.
Great effort then, well done - good to see you lads going well. Good job Phil wasn't on the navigation leg after getting lost at Langdale last week :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by gazj1979
Fantastic day out- really well organised, superb setting in that bowl with great views.
Thanks to all the marshalls- it must have been pretty awful just stood there.
Loved the navigation leg- yes it was tough and I made mistakes- imagine what it would be like if they removed all the fences WOW
Want to see results to see how many teams we beat on our leg- we will work from bottom up ( no where near good enough for medals but improving steadily)
Best nav leg in years, with a bit of route choice for a change. 4-5 get to the final bend in the fence before Blake Fell, contour the hillside pace counting for 600 metres then swing right onto the spur with the control at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Goof event.
3 teams got DSQ, a unfortunate but there was nothing the organisers could do. A few years back our club was DSQ for missing a CP and they were way down the field at the time, so there has to be consistency. They'd missed a CP. Personally I think the non-nav legs should be flagged.
Great organisation though, everything seemed to go like clockwork.
Leg B was a nice run, very runnable climb, good descents and then a few stiff walks.
Who actually got DQ i cant find itQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Did I just see someone saying leg 4 was like a trail race?!?! Didn't feel owt like a trail race half way up that last climb!!!
Thoroughly enjoyed the event and the mist (I reccied midweek ;)).
I did leg 4. Apologies to any of the leg three navigation runners I may have 'bumped into' when coming face-to-face with on that narrow path traversing Blake Fell. Sorry, I was on a mission!!!
So, given all the pre-race talk, did everyone on leg 4 find the quickest line off Sharp Knott and down the small path through the forest?
Does that help TTQuote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
Sorry alistair i had a junior momentQuote:
Originally Posted by Clash City Rocker
check out the jnr relay thread we need your input
Hi Tom
Think the three runners who missed cp1 on leg4 were Tim Davies, Alistair Brownlee and Rob HOPE? (corrected by gazj - thanks!) Someone please correct me if i'm wrong.(and I was:d)
I remember Tim mentioning he had to wait for Alistair and Rob to catch up with him at one checkpoint also
As Welshharrier says about Tim flying down the last descent needing a parachute, that was really something special to watch, worth the entrance fee alone.
Great day and thanks to all who organised and helped.
Brownlee twice wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by harrymoon
Think the three runners who missed cp1 on leg4 were Tim Davies, Alistair Brownlee and Rob Jebb? Someone please correct me if i'm wrong. I remember Tim mentioning he had to wait for Alistair and Rob to catch up with him at one checkpoint also
Rob Hope not Rob Jebb!!
:DPresumably you mean GOOD EVENT!!Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Matthew Roberts wasn't far behind the front runners at the finish - with all the dsq's did Eryri win a medal - you must have done!
In which case:):D
Oops yeah..
We were 4th..9 seconds of a medal...
Even without the 3 disqualified we were 7th, so a good result. We were fairly much in or around the top 10 all day so quite in the mix. 4th in the Brits and 4th at the Relays, a good year.
Well done Eryri - well impressed with the turn out - my estimate of 129 teams was well beaten.
I was way off mark:( over 140 startedQuote:
Originally Posted by Welsh Harrier
Thank you and well done to organisers, helpers & marshalls, I really enjoyed the event. the routes, the challenge, the clag, the cameraderie, the craic, the food ete etc.
The marshalls deserve huge thanks (i stood chatting to 2 marshals at 'pile of stones' towards the end of the day and they were freezing but remained in high spirits)
Hope the guy who was injured is ok and makes a speedy recovery.
Thanks again to all.
Ken
Aye, huge turn out, there was some queueing early on to get into the field, but the venue seemed to handle the numbers well.
I thought leaving would be an issue after the rain but we got off OK.
I was a bit dubious when I heard it was out there, a bit outside the lakes, looking at the map it didn't look great, but the venue was great. Leg B was a really nice varied run. Weather wasn't great but running wise it wasn't too cold.