Brexit

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Originally Posted by Flem

The UK has already left the EU. The UK (i.e., including Scotland) left the EU at 11 pm GMT on 31 January 2020. Didn't you notice?

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NOPE.

What's changed for me to notice??

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Originally Posted by Stagger

NOPE.

What's changed for me to notice??

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Stagger we’ve left the EU. They’re now trying (badly) to negotiate a trade agreement

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Quote Originally Posted by bigfella View Post
So if Scotland vote for independence and re-join the EU I assume we will insist on a water tight border and customs checks to prevent sub-standard EU goods entering the UK.

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Perhaps so, and I suppose you'll get away with that as you ventured a question rather than framing it as an opinion.

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Unless you fail to notice the lack of a question mark.

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Mmmh. I suppose it depends on how you define 'a lot'.

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and how much you ignore the actual polling data. Which, it turns out, is "a lot".

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

But if the Brexit referendum tells us anything, people will vote for nationalism and flag wavery pokery over and above economic common sense.

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There is, of course, a difference between people deciding how best to vote based on what might or might not transpire economically in the future, and people deciding how best to vote based on what has already transpired economically. If party A tells people that their jobs are at risk if they vote for party B, but are safe if they vote for them, but Party B tells them the exact opposite, it might look to an outsider as though those people voted with no consideration for the own economic well being. The reality, though, might well be that they didn't actually know, nor have a good feeling for, what was in their own best interests economically and so based their decision on other issues entirely (such as who they thought they'd prefer to have a pint with in the pub). And perhaps, of course, it wasn't actually possible for them to know - not everything in life is quite as predictable and clear-cut as some people seem to think. However, if, after they've voted, they subsequently lose their jobs ...

"It's the economy, stupid!". (I would have said "Events, dear boy, events", but I've already said that once today.)

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Originally Posted by Stagger

What's changed for me to notice??

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Perhaps you just need to give it a bit more time.

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Originally Posted by Flem

Perhaps you just need to give it a bit more time.

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Ha ha ha it won't affect my life Spit.

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Originally Posted by Fellbeast

Stagger we’ve left the EU. They’re now trying (badly) to negotiate a trade agreement

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Nowt to agree. We sell and buy and they sell and buy.

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Originally Posted by Flem

Mmmh. I suppose it depends on how you define 'a lot'. According to a poll by Lord Ashcroft (who, incidentally, was a Brexit supporter) the split among SNP voters was 64% to 36% in favour of Remain. The split among Conservative voters was 58% to 42% in favour of Leave. So the proportion of SNP voters who voted for Leave was lower (according to Ashcroft's poll) than the proportion of Conservative voters who voted for Remain.

https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/0...rendum-and-why

So, if everything is to be viewed through the prism of Brexit, then perhaps the Conservative party have more to fear from a loss of Remain voters than the SNP have to fear from a loss of Leave voters. Or, especially given that the UK has actually already left the EU (despite what some people seem to think), perhaps viewing everything through the prism of the historical Brexit vote is not particularly illuminative or informative. My own view, for what it's worth, tends to the latter. So what will drive the way people vote in future elections if not the way they voted in the EU referendum years previously? Events, dear boy, events. (As Harold Macmillan may, or may not, have said.) And my guess is that there are going to be a lot of them over the next 2 or 3 years.

May I ask where you got your information from to support your statements I quoted above?

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You can ask, but you've provided the evidence yourself, so no need to. 36% is a lot of SNP voters who do not want to be in the EU.

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Originally Posted by Stagger

Nowt to agree. We sell and buy and they sell and buy.

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Your knowledge of the subject as always is complete.... :rolleyes:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiAtie_W...g&name=900x900

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Originally Posted by Stagger

Nowt to agree. We sell and buy and they sell and buy.

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You're correct Trev - I used to trade in and out of China before they had even been accepted in to the WTO as did many others.
2005 they joined.
I used to buy from 2 factories in Laos back in 2000. They had 0% duty as a favoured nation. They didn't even join WTO until 2014.
So it is quite simple - you have something I want to buy. Can we agree on a price and do the deal?