New name same old party.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...of-nazi-slogan
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New name same old party.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...of-nazi-slogan
Can we decline all the crap french apples?
There are antisenites and racists in labour. Arguably in the top job.
Arguably institutionalised.
There are several kicked out for bad tweets and messages in change uk and Tory
Bad apples don't make a barrel unless it comes from the top ( like labour)
So why do you only choose brexit party to comment on ?
Is it Because you read that dreadful fake news paper the guardian?
Or confirmation bias on anti brexit?
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Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
Same name, same old Dr Patrick Barry.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
yes that's me😄Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
I saw something on this earlier today so I'll post below the critique of the Guardian, just because there are two sides to every story and the Guardian has put a particular slant on it, which seems unwarranted.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
Guardian spin is quite shameless.
"Praised use of Nazi slogan" implies the slogan was used with sympathy with Nazism.
But...
Here is the event in question, in which the "Nazi slogan" is used.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaKX5Xs-0FI
continued at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaKX...ature=youtu.be
Why did the Guardian not mention that the "Nazi slogan was used" to call somebody else an "undemocratic fascist"?
It's a naked lie by omission. It's a slur.
Bloom called Shulz a Nazi, because in the debate on Ireland's economic crisis, Shulz was bemoaning the failure of plans for a Europe-wide financial transaction tax, which he blamed on the UK in the face of French-German dominance of EU policy.
Shulz wanted economic policy to be determined -- dictated -- by the EU, thus putting it out of the hands of voters.
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story
Will I be able to buy Cornish pasties not made in Cornwall post-Brexit. Is that an EU thing? Can we sell English champagne instead of English sparkling wine? Are we worried about the lucrative export Melton Mowbray pie market? Will we be able to buy a pennyweight of saffron like WP used to when he was a boy?
We have to look at the positives here.
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Another random posters likes from the official Brexit party Facebook page. It was taken from their latest post. I can't believe some people on here are sticking up for Farage. R.I.P the F.R.A forum
As I said before, Farage himself is not a racist, but UKIP attracted racists like a light attracts moths. Now it appears that he is having the same problem with the Brexit Party. How long before he abandons Brexit Party and starts up his third political party?
Credit or discredit?
Truth or lie?
Who knows what, where etc
The forum will continue with or without brexit.
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Farage isn’t a racist BUT . . .
Corbyn racist?
Labour racist?
Tory racist?
May racist?
Everyone racist or prejudice in some way?
But then you are simply not objective.
First it wasn't farage that posted it.
Second , I can find a dozen nasty posts on many particularly labour Jewish MPs twitters, written by so called labour supporters, passing criminal threshold in some cases, now referred to cps.
And a foreword to a book acturally written by Corbyn praising an antisemitic book in personSo why do you not condemn him instead? The extreme fringe of all parties are nasty. Take the terrorist and autocratic socialist supporting fringe of labour,
Remainers attack brexit and all who support it.
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Originally Posted by William Clough
With no evidence whatsoever some Remainers on here believe that those who voted for Brexit are racist and would , no doubt, prefer us not to be on this Forum .Quote:
Originally Posted by William Clough
Typical attitude of those who think they know best.
Perhaps they don't want us to enter Fell Races either!
In February, the Labour party announced it had looked in to "673 alleged cases" of anti-Semitism over the period from the previous April - 10 months. Their issues are well documented.
Nationalist parties, particularly the SNP sail very close to the wind at times. The SNP always seek to present themselves and Scots as progressive, friendly, compassionate and regularly contrast that with us south of the border, the English; accountable for all the wrongs of imperial expansion.
A brief google will tell you that all parties have their issues. It's just a reflection of society and I also think it's often blown out of proportion, amplified somehow to make it a bigger and wider problem than it really is.
But let's put this in to the context of Brexit.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ther-europeans
The UK is one of the most positive countries in the EU when it comes to the immigration.
It shouldn't be a surprise. We occasionally see instances of a lone fan hurling abuse at a football player here, but overseas we often see 100s of fans throwing bananas and making monkey chants at our black players.
We need a little perspective on this.
The idea that most Brexiteers are racist, the idea that Brexit is in itself driven by racism, fascism, Nazis... as put forward by the likes of David Lammy, the idea that the Remain camp is devoid of any racists.....
These are all false. They are typical of the over-hype, the echo-chamber news, the retweeting of fake memes.... that takes something that has a semblance of truth and within no time creates something that is so based in "fact" that it cannot be contested.
One of four recent racist incidents involving "Change UK".Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8883946.html
Strange you didn't raise this as well DrP.
I suspect some of the Remainers on here don't condemn him because the idea of somebody from the left doing this type of thing doesn't chime with their world view. People on the left are good, while those on the right are evil, especially if they support Brexit. You could fill a book with examples of Corbyn's antisemitism let alone those of his deranged acolytes. A poll last year found that nearly 40% of Jewish people would seriously consider emigrating if Corbyn became prime minister. I think this is a horrifying statistic. If people want something to be outraged about they should be outraged about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
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right is shite :)
As we now know, a dossier of some of the worst AS cases was handed to LBC, passed to the police last autumn in frustration at Labours failure to act on them and have resulted in criminal charges!
We also now know that in order to keep control of it, Corbyn has promoted the daughter of his strategist Andrew Murray - Laura Murray to take over complaints. So much for independence. Murray is someone who is already facing a libel action from Rachel Riley for making a demonstrably false comment in the context of antisemitism on twitter. So much for her investigation abilities. Nepotism rules in labour.
Murray himself is a nasty piece of work, not only should his communist links and campaigns for other parties preclude him from labour membership, MI5 say his past guarantees he will never get clearance.
In a series of actions deliberately baiting the jewish community, Corbyn has sacked his own jewish labour movement from giving AS training, handing it instead to a london college under a professor noted fro his opposition to the international AS definition.
Labour have crossed the threshold for the second only judicial investigation by equalities commission. I have a hatred of Corbyn dating thirty years before anyone else had ever heard of him. I was showered by the glass of several IRA bombs at a time he was parading them in parliament. I have despised him for thirty years becase of it.Corbyn and Mcdonnel were never interested in peace. They were all in with the republicans. YOu cannot be one sided and claim you favour peace, which is the flaw in their pro palestinian terrorist support as well.
Corbyn sides with hamas, hezbollah, the representatives of what was PLO in libya, and such as maduro yet would not sit with the British PM withot preconditions, and he will not even eat dinner with the elected president our most important ally trump. He should respect the rank, even if not the man.
The difference with labout is the cancer starts at the head.
Yet remainers criticise farage instead???
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Originally Posted by Witton Park
He's the only one worth sticking up for. And when I read the likes of Derby Tup, Stolly, Noel, and Pat Barry - oh sorry DR Pat Barry - the more I rest my hopes on Farage.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Clough
A Jewish boy says to his father "dad, can I have 50p?" his dad says "10p what do you want 2p for?"Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
It's a funny tale and would be equally funny if we applied it to a Yorkshire Man or any other group who are thought of as being careful with money. But WHY is it funny? It's because it's based on stereotypes.
But as they read it you can just see Pat Barry and co turning their lips up in anger and hatred because in their eyes it's a downright racist joke that shouldn't be tolerated in society. They'd love to proscribe laws to prevent it and lock up those who not only say it but think it. Don't dare look at anyone the wrong way because it might be misconstrued.
That's why I like Farage. Speaks his mind. Says what he thinks.
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Originally Posted by Llani Boy
It makes me wonder what you're hoping for CL. And what would represent success to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by CL
I notice your council went Labour CL. Any thoughts on why they did better there than in the rest of England? Maybe one for another thread.
I don't even understand that one, and I'm from Yorkshire.Quote:
Originally Posted by CL
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Originally Posted by bigfella
I think there must be a typo somewhere
I see the same vociferous posters are still spewing out their increasingly aggressive opinions as FACTS :mad:, which no-one must dare to disagree with. Might be quite entertaining (I use the term very loosely) to look back at some point to see just how wrong they may have been. Bet it goes very quiet then - thank goodness :D.
Bold capitals, really???
Your no better.
Bullying tactics grump.
Read it again Trevor; the bold capitals refer to the intensity of facts shouted, sorry, opinions expressed by others. A point I made several hundred posts ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
:D "it's the way I tell em." Or don't tell them:(. His dad was knocking him down from 50p to 2p.The stereotype is that Jewish people like to do a deal or are very savy with money.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfella
Never mind here's a song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qlBsMoqccw
I thought Chris’ joke was his best ever post
So question Grumpster: who are you suggesting is posting opinions as FACTS?
The grump is an old fashioned bully.
Hiding, then out with the sticks and stones.
He’s not the only anonymous poster on the forum
And your point is?
Just another sad remain bully who hasn't got his own way.
My point is the Grump isn’t the only person who posts on here who is anonymous. It’s a quite straightforward observation
I thought (but I’m certainly not reading back to check) that previously Grump had posted either suggesting he was either a leaver or at least the result of the referendum should be honoured. I’ll stand correcting (re his stance; my first point is correct)
But you haven't made several hundred posts, so you do exaggerate!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrump
Most of the several hundred are yours I think Oracle
Glass houses. Stones. Kettle. Black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Kerist!