Tonight's football thread

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Originally Posted by TheHeathens

Think City are just wiping their arse and are ready to flush.

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Slur Alex took 2/3 years to get past the groups with you lot

Wenger has been manager for 13 years and he still hasn't won it and doesn't look like he's going to anytime soon.

For 2 years in a row we have been given bloody hard groups, we could have ended up with Lille, Porto, Clujj and in my opinion safely through, but through no fault of our own we have ended up with 4 bloody league winners in our group. You need luck as well to win the competition, look at Chelsea for example.

Mancini has guided us to our first Premier League trophy in 44 years, and undoubtedly the main aim for this season is to retain our title.

We have seen much darker days than this. Without the bitter the sweet isn't as sweet - which is something most United fans have no concept of.



PS - it's the first anniversary of the 6-1 this weekend :w00t:

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Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry

Mancini has guided us to our first Premier League trophy in 44 years, and undoubtedly the main aim for this season is to retain our title.

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P45 not far off now.

There's no doubt the group City are in is a tough group, but Ajax should be seen as the whipping boys and not City and you would expect them to be picking up 9/10 points from that group.
People discuss the quality of the groups every year - this is the premier world football competition, with a higher level than the world cup. There's no pushovers in any group. Malaga, Zenit, PSG, Shahktar...all playing like top class sides - yet not big clubs.
Look at even how Celtic, the biggest ever UK odds against in a Champions League game, almost pulled of a result at Barca.

So moaning about being in a tough league is a red herring, they're all tough. Current form is more an issue.

Wenger has had his time - they need a fresh start.

City have definitely looked weak in the Champions League this year. Playing well they'd give anyone a game, shame we're unlikely to see it this year.

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Originally Posted by Stagger

P45 not far off now.

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Why Stagger? We are the champions and remember it took Bacon Face a while before he won the Champions League.


In all honesty, any City fan calling for Mancini's head quite simply can't have supported City long enough to know real disappointment. :)

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Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry

Why Stagger? We are the champions and remember it took Bacon Face a while before he won the Champions League.


In all honesty, any City fan calling for Mancini's head quite simply can't have supported City long enough to know real disappointment. :)

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I'am not calling for his head, neither am I a city fan.
I just think the owners are like the chelsea owner and think a bloke get 1 or 2 at the most chances to show progress in Champs league and your boys have now failed big time twice.
There will be a bloke near an oil well sharpening the axe as we type.

Danbert..

I'll call Mancini Mancini.. maybe its just decency... up bringing..

Remember why Mancini left Inter.. him and the CL don't sit well together..

Fergie took United from nothing, spent but not ridiculously and at the time of a ban, we had to learn to play in Europe.. Mancini has a team of CL winners and has spent £100's of millions.. incomparable.

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Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry

Slur Alex took 2/3 years to get past the groups with you lot

Wenger has been manager for 13 years and he still hasn't won it and doesn't look like he's going to anytime soon.

For 2 years in a row we have been given bloody hard groups, we could have ended up with Lille, Porto, Clujj and in my opinion safely through, but through no fault of our own we have ended up with 4 bloody league winners in our group. You need luck as well to win the competition, look at Chelsea for example.

Mancini has guided us to our first Premier League trophy in 44 years, and undoubtedly the main aim for this season is to retain our title.

We have seen much darker days than this. Without the bitter the sweet isn't as sweet - which is something most United fans have no concept of.



PS - it's the first anniversary of the 6-1 this weekend :w00t:

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both groups were tough, but you should have qualified last year, and should this year..united had a tough group in 99..

Last night city were awful.

Iain - Having waited 35 years for a trophy and 44 years between league trophies I'm sure I can wait a little longer for European and world domination. :w00t:

Everton 2 - Liverpool 2

Liverpool have a last minute goal disallowed for the wrong reason :confused: A good derby match that. That's the warmup game out of the way lets hope the Chelsea-Man U main event is as entertaining.

Chelsea 2 - Man U 3

Up to the Torres sending off a very enjoyable game. Only one winner after that, offside goal or not.

I see Baconface's rotation policy paid off - resting Howard Webb and bringing in Mark Clattenburg :thunbdown:

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Originally Posted by danbert nocurry

i see baconface's rotation policy paid off - resting howard webb and bringing in mark clattenburg :thunbdown:

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lol :))

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Originally Posted by Alf

Everton 2 - Liverpool 2

Liverpool have a last minute goal disallowed for the wrong reason :confused: A good derby match that. That's the warmup game out of the way lets hope the Chelsea-Man U main event is as entertaining.

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Not seen it yet but supposedly the decision for the freekick was shocking... and suarez should have been off..

Not seen Utd yet, had radio on, sounded lucky.. but we've had some bad luck at chelsea.. in fact continual bad luck there.

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

lol :))

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Clattenburg appears to be in for a couple of rough weeks again.
"We have lodged a complaint to the Premier League match delegate," said a Chelsea spokesman.
"The match delegate will pass the complaint to the Football Association."


Referees' organisation Professional Game Match Officials (PGMO) later issued a statement which read: "PGMO is aware of the allegations and they are being treated with the utmost seriousness.
"Mark will co-operate fully and welcomes the opportunity for the facts to be established."

All four officials - the referee, his two assistants and the fourth official - wear microphones and ear pieces that allow them to hear what each other is saying throughout the match, although it is not recorded.

The bad side of football, but why are the league or FA not investigating? Leeds will get done for a thug so why is it not the same for all clubs?
Meanwhile, Chelsea will investigate reports that a steward was injured by objects thrown from the crowd at Stamford Bridge.
Hernandez appeared to be pelted as he celebrated scoring United's winner in front of Chelsea fans in the Matthew Harding Stand.
A steward required 10 minutes of treatment before being taken to hospital.

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Originally Posted by Stagger

The bad side of football, but why are the league or FA not investigating? Leeds will get done for a thug so why is it not the same for all clubs?
Meanwhile, Chelsea will investigate reports that a steward was injured by objects thrown from the crowd at Stamford Bridge.
Hernandez appeared to be pelted as he celebrated scoring United's winner in front of Chelsea fans in the Matthew Harding Stand.
A steward required 10 minutes of treatment before being taken to hospital.

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I agree Trev. Other than a few isolated incidents like Cantona and Duncan Ferguson, offenses in football grounds seem to be treated as par for the course.

I'm actually interested in the allegations against Clattenburg. He does seem a pompous sod, but can you imagine if he is found against and disciplined? Especially for inappropriate language?
Every other word from a player to the ref or lino is inappropriate, it doesn't take much lip reading.

I can see a ref rebellion and lots of cards for dissent flying around - and about time to.

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Originally Posted by Witton Park

I agree Trev. Other than a few isolated incidents like Cantona and Duncan Ferguson, offenses in football grounds seem to be treated as par for the course.

I'm actually interested in the allegations against Clattenburg. He does seem a pompous sod, but can you imagine if he is found against and disciplined? Especially for inappropriate language?
Every other word from a player to the ref or lino is inappropriate, it doesn't take much lip reading.

I can see a ref rebellion and lots of cards for dissent flying around - and about time to.

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According to the chelsea fans Hernandez asked for it as he celebrated in front of them and smilled whilst holding his ear.. they really are precious darling, spend 90 minutes screaming abuse at a player, about his wife, background.. then get all affronted when someone celebrates.. idiots.

Sounded like a goalfest at Reading last night. I missed the match but fortunately have it recorded.

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Originally Posted by Alf

Sounded like a goalfest at Reading last night. I missed the match but fortunately have it recorded.

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Enjoy it when you watch it Alf. The best bit is when at the end of normal time, 4-4, two Arsenal players throw their shirts to the away fans. Then they are told there is extra time and they have to go and ask for them back.

This thread is now up to 191 pages, and this is the first time I've felt moved to mention Bradford City.

I know it's important to keep our feet on the ground at times like this. But I think last night's victory shows we'll* be mixing it with the elite of Europe in a few years' time. :)

When City win, it's "we". When they lose it's "them". That's the advantage of being a part-time fan.

Clattenburg-gate could be huge..

But it sounds like he said Mikel in a geordie accent and Mikel took that as Monkey.. but with the FA under pressure for racism I think he could well swing regardless of actual guilt...

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Originally Posted by Vic Crescit

Enjoy it when you watch it Alf. The best bit is when at the end of normal time, 4-4, two Arsenal players throw their shirts to the away fans. Then they are told there is extra time and they have to go and ask for them back.

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They got the shirts back from the crowd :thumbup: The Arsenal fans creeping out when they were 4-0 down must be kicking themselves now. Great entertainment, though there was some dodgy defending in there and with 2 good penalty shouts turned down they could have had another goal each.

Just the 9 goals in the Chelsea - Man Utd match a bit boring really compared with Reading/Arsenal :rolleyes::D

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Originally Posted by Alf

Just the 9 goals in the Chelsea - Man Utd match a bit boring really compared with Reading/Arsenal :rolleyes::D

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Nani.. unbelievable.. last minute and tries to beat his man.. tbf chelsea deserved it, we were lucky to finish with 11 men as both centre backs should have probably gone by the letter of the law. Good refereeing for once in general, good call by the liner by Rafaels clearance of the goal line, it was a goal.

Happy enough, some good young players, hernandez is looking sharp.

Pleat was an idiot on 5 live talking about disrespect by clubs like United of the cup, then praising fergusons mix of youth and experience when we were 3-2 up after 90 minutes...

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Originally Posted by IainR

Clattenburg-gate could be huge..

But it sounds like he said Mikel in a geordie accent and Mikel took that as Monkey.. but with the FA under pressure for racism I think he could well swing regardless of actual guilt...

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I think the word farce was invented for situations such as this.

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Originally Posted by Hank

I think the word farce was invented for situations such as this.

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If we've learnt anything from football in the last 12 months it's that you can call anyone anything as long as you later claim you put a question mark on the end of it.

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Originally Posted by noel

This thread is now up to 191 pages, and this is the first time I've felt moved to mention Bradford City.

I know it's important to keep our feet on the ground at times like this. But I think last night's victory shows we'll* be mixing it with the elite of Europe in a few years' time. :)

When City win, it's "we". When they lose it's "them". That's the advantage of being a part-time fan.

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I have a sneaking suspicion this might actually be the only mention of the mighty Bantams on this thread?! For those of us who sneaked off training & ventured across to the DW Stadium, it was a night to remember!
Bring on the Arsenal! They didn't beat us at Valley Parade in our brief sojourn in the Premiership....! Windass free-kick round the wall & nestling in bottom corner of Seaman's goal - check it out on You Tube!!

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Originally Posted by Hank

I think the word farce was invented for situations such as this.

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Chelsea are such an upstanding club though, United against racism and felt compelled to act..

Talking about shooting yourself in the foot...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...y-Welbeck.html

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Originally Posted by IainR

Nani.. unbelievable.. last minute and tries to beat his man.

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Been saying for ages that Nani has to go. I believe he's gone backwards over the last few years; a Ronaldo replacement he isn't.

Just lost the tie-break question in my local pub.... Who am I? I was all over the TV in the seventies and eighties, but have been completely irrelevant for the past 25 years. I am closely linked with music of the 1960s and I am famous for wearing tacky, shiny shellsuits, have been in trouble with the police and am despised by the whole country? ....apparently, the answer isn't 'Liverpool Supporters'

Bates out & Warnock out at Leeds.

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Originally Posted by Yelsew

Just lost the tie-break question in my local pub.... Who am I? I was all over the TV in the seventies and eighties, but have been completely irrelevant for the past 25 years. I am closely linked with music of the 1960s and I am famous for wearing tacky, shiny shellsuits, have been in trouble with the police and am despised by the whole country? ....apparently, the answer isn't 'Liverpool Supporters'

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How dare you bring logic & common sense to this thread. :w00t:

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Originally Posted by TheHeathens

Been saying for ages that Nani has to go. I believe he's gone backwards over the last few years; a Ronaldo replacement he isn't.

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Its just mistakes like that are just so infuriating.. silly juvenile errors you don't expect from 12 year olds..

City and United pulling away now, open league but can't see anyone but either of us winning it this year. Neither have played well at all though.

Lucky against Villa TBH, thought they deserved something, but once we got one back they pannicked and i think our reputation was us the game as much as anything..

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Originally Posted by Stagger

Bates out & Warnock out at Leeds.

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Why spoil the fun for the rest of us.....?!!

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Originally Posted by Stagger

Bates out & Warnock out at Leeds.

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Poor show on Saturday. The sooner Bates buggers off the better. Never had much time for Warnock. We should've stuck with Grayson.

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Originally Posted by Hank

Poor show on Saturday. The sooner Bates buggers off the better. Never had much time for Warnock. We should've stuck with Grayson.

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I agree, I said at the time it was a bad decision to sack Grayson. It doesn't surprise me that he is doing such a good job at Huddersfield. I wouldn't rush to get rid of Warnock though. The jury is still out on him while he hasn't had any proper backing from Bates. If this takeover ever does happen and the new owners provide some transfer funds then that will be the time to judge Warnock. I have to say though that he made some pretty bizarre decisions on Saturday and making all three substitutions at half time was always going to be a risky strategy. The result of course was playing nearly all the second half with 9 men and a 6 -1 thrashing!

Depressing all round at Leeds. Even the 'buy out' is depressing me!

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Originally Posted by that_fjell_guy

Depressing all round at Leeds. Even the 'buy out' is depressing me!

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When Man United were investing the money they earned from FOOTBALL into expanding their stadium and being shrewd in commercialising their brand image, little scrotey teams all cried about how unfair it was.

Nowadays those same little scrotey teams don't even hide the fact that they wish they'd get bought by a sugar daddy so they can invest money stolen from governments or oil or construction to 'Championship Manager Cheat Mode' their way to being the next Man Shitty or Chelski.

What a hollow way to the top.:thunbdown: