Results just need popping up on web - but the the Heptonstall webmeister had a long journey to make this pm - sure he will on the case as soon as poss
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Originally Posted by Rob Furness
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Results just need popping up on web - but the the Heptonstall webmeister had a long journey to make this pm - sure he will on the case as soon as poss
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Originally Posted by Rob Furness
RESULTS ARE UP!!!
Nice one Pete (The webmeister and CP1 Marshall) still hard at it having driven to the Wirall and back this evening.
We were very lucky to have a web designer in our planning team :thumbup:- Pete built and maintained our race web site (many of you complimented today)
http://www.heptonstallfellrace.org.uk/results
A HUGE thankyou to whoever handed my car key in at race HQ. Very much appreciated.
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A few big thank you's............:thumbup::thumbup:......
Hope you enjoyed the day - it was these guys who made it.
Should I ask if them all if they might be up for it again 2012??
THE RACE TEAM - for 6 months of hard work - what a team!!! (putting up with me hassling them every other minute)
Charlie Boyce (CVFR) & Pete Bowles (Tod) for planning and leading CPs, Marshalls, Flagging
Pete Fitzpatrick (CVFR) for designing and maintaining the website maps/directions/results etc
Paul Cotton (Tod) and his family (Sarah, Joe, Sol) for leading timing and results
Louise Marix Evans (CVFR) and Chris Sygle (CVFR) running registration and finish funnel
Mark, Max, Izzy, and Penny (all CVFR) for the use of their fields for the finish - plus organising parking
Elise and Graham Milnes (Tod) for the Race Trophy , flagging , CPs
Paul Cruthers (Tod) for organising the village square
THE MARSHALLS -50 poor souls - freezing up on the moors to make sure you were safe - I can't possibly name them all but many were none runners (neighbours/family/friends) often their first encounter with fell running
THE CLUBS - for supporting and guiding us novices in the art of race organisation
CVFR for use of all flags / timers /radios etc (and making HFR Club Champs)
Tod Harriers - signs and last minute use of timer (cheers Mandy!) (and making HFR Grand Prix)
THE VILLAGE - what a great community effort!
My wife Judi (and source of all strength) and all the church volunteers for catering - Soup/Cakes/Drinks (never ending supplies of free pre and post race sustinance)
Rev Howard Pask for his support - and what a start to a fell race (unique???)
Anthony and Margret for their fields for parking (saved the day!)
Barry at The White Lion for an excellent race HQ (and 350 pints of beer!)
Norman and co for putting up the bunting and race banners
Mark and Kirsten - for marshalling car parking and road crossings
Owen at The Cross for feeding the Marshalls
THE BACKERS AND SUPPORTERS;
CALDER VALLEY SEARCH AND RESCUE - 4 guys and a landrover - all day
UP AND RUNNING - for the race numbers, prizes, and banner
SPRINGHEAD BREWERY - keg of ale (£150 raised)- plus prizes
M&S, ASDA, COOP, MORRISONS, TESCO for cakes, Easter Eggs and bread etc
KEITH RICHARDSON (author) for donating 2 copies of "JOSS"
CALREC (Hedden Bridge) for making the HFR trophy
THE LANDOWNERS
Walshaw Estate,National Trust,Yorkshire Water, and host of farmers - particularly Brain Lund at Walshaw Farm (drinks station and land around Shackleton)
Last but not least - All 202 of you for running - what a turn out for a first event!
£1000-200 raised for church (and CVSR / Mountian Rescue will now also benefit):wink:
THANK YOU!
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Trig,
And thank you.
Great day!
Couple of bits of lost property
A blue baraclava
A back bike cable/paddlock (we think form the chap from Hyde ParK?)
And and innov8 drinks bottle - someone has but I have nt yet located
My brain - last seen in White Lion around 8pm Sunday night when I started discussing "...how we could make it bigger and better next year..."
Thanks to everyone involved for a great race. Brilliant route!
My wheels came off at about 10 miles but I just scraped into the top 50% so you'll do for me Tom!
Another boringly positive thanks from me. Great race, thank God it was (incredibly comprehensively) flagged, a few potential spots for going wrong along the course. Although I have strayed far from the path of organised religion, the vicar's words nearly had me welling up, really encouraged a feeling of common endeavour.
Well done DD - you may have been re named Jake Rog in the results - will make sure its right for the media/press releases covering your sporting exploits - or do you think Rog sounds better????:oQuote:
Originally Posted by duty_druid
The vicar recently ran the London marathon so he really knows his stuff - perhaps he'll turn his hand to fell running after seeing what all the fuss was about yesterday - watch out for a bloke in a cassock flying across the moor next year!Quote:
Originally Posted by threerock
Although we really must make the reading a permanent feature- what do you think??????
The Trunce may fall victim the Calf Crunch Crag (ie last ascent)
Would be very interested to find out where the route issue was - need iron it for next year...
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Originally Posted by RichardAThackeray
Are there any pictures from the Heptonstall Fell Race on the web by any chance.
I'd like to add my thanks to Trig and the myriad other people involved for a grand race yesterday. Tea and flapjack to start, a really cracking course (even in the mist) and loads more tea and cake at the end. That and the fact it's in aid of a really good cause. What more could you want from a run? Well done everyone concerned! (and I finished in the top 50%, not that this coloured my view of the day at all... honest...)
Joey D
I'm usually such a pedant about these things but don't care at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trig
Actually, best change it just in case ;-)
Thanks Trig and all the top team for an awesome race and day.
I did manage to down quite a few ales in the White Lion, then as Colin M challenged me to a (pi55ed runner v pi55ed cyclist) race down to the Blue Pig, well it would've been very rude of me to accept the challenge! So whilst he was faffing with his bike I hot footed it in civvies and shoes down to the Pig, and won my first race of the day, managing to get the beers in before he arrived!
Sadly my 3 hour late arrival at home at just gone 7 (just slightly innebriated!) did manage to get me well and truly in the doghouse, ooooooooops.
Just like to add my thanks to the ever increasing list of thanks, all well deserved. Great tough course, constantly up and down, with hardly any flat sections, ace. I know we all moaned about that last killer hill climb, but given the choice of not including that in any future Heptonstall Fell Races we'd all be up in arms complaing.
Possibly most enjoyable fell race I've done, that means the race itself as well as the community spirit both before and after the race, great in the White Lion afterwards also.
Gotta mention the lovely ladies serving the free tea and flapjacks, marvellous.
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Thanks Guys, he done well. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Trig
I thought it was brill and my legs ache today. Thanks Trig and everyone.
One route issue i noticed was by the res- the flags took you past the wall and back on your self through a gap.. i did notice some very naughty boys drop down to the tarmac early and cut out a few hundred metres :sneaky:
Yes - good point - you went the right way - but I can see the temptation. I flagged that section and spent about 10 minutes debating whether to go on the out and back around the wall (knowing a few people had recced the shorter option) in the end we decided the route needed to stick the flags in as in published race map and route description (around the wall) particularly as there was no obvious right way on the short cut- we will discuss in our wash up and make clear for any future race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longdogs
We were a bit naughty and flagged a slightly different route up off the PW at Walshaw Dean through a nice looking bog (by a wall). This was actually a path on OS map! I was suprised to hear that some runners chose to balance along the top of the adjacent, high, crumbling, wall in an attempt to keep their feet dry! I hope it was the flags on top of teh wall that caused confusion???
Mmmmm......think we need to advise against tight rope skills next year.....better wet feet than broken collar bone etc.
The bog was nt too bad anyway (ankle deep at worst??) think of it as refreshing on lotion on tired feet.
Would be interested to know if those who recced the orignial route (tarmac and jeep track for 400 yards) preferred this slightly shorter off road route up toward Greave Height (CP3)??????
I hate folk that cut corners. Must remember to cut corners next year. No doubt grim n co will have a marshal to scold those naughties.. and the marsh was awful at walshaw dean and did not know which side of wall to run but did not choose the on wall option. Next year I will use my jet prepulsion to get over this issue (small legs + bog = nightmare).
Clive! Star performance both on the fells and at the bar. You lived up to your "number 1" billing - leading others by your example great stuff!!!! I noticed you roped half of Wharfedale into your extended post race analysis. Consider yourself the permanent owner of the "number 1". This Blue Pig stage sounds like a great feature for next year's Heptonstall - 15 miles and 3000 feet is a bit tame - what are the stats / rules to "The Full Heptonstall/Blue Pig variant" ????????Quote:
Originally Posted by Clive
At least you were nt chucking up your ale like AlfaScud.........
Yep photos are a must - unfortunately not the usual Sportsunday etc presence- but we do have loads coming in from marshalls / families etc so just trying get them all to webmeister Pete to pop up on HFR website - we would be very grateful for any you can link to posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by richardbriscoe
More Lovely Ladies (and James) Soup Action - will pass on the praise to the soup gang (one of whom is my long suffering fell widow wife)
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Congrats on top half finish JoeyD - soup run recce paid off eh?
Pity I missed you in the pub
Have you joined a club yet - whats the nearest fell club to Bury?
If you fancy another day out to the village we're thinking of doing a 28 mile soup run linking 7 trig points from here; its a bit of an annual event delayed because of HFR. First Trig in chain is Standing Stone Hill, then Bridestones, Hoof Stones, Ladlaw/Boulsworth, The Stoop, High Brown Knoll, finally Sheepstones. Its very wild - not many paths, only 3 or 4 road crossings, and not a house or farm to see on the entire 20 mile high section. Surprisingly easy running across peat/heather - its a horseshoe ridge so not that much ascent given distance. Thinking early April - more good training for 3 Peaks.
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Ssshhhhh don't tell everyone they'll think I'm a lightweight! I'm coming over Friday next year & getting more beer in beforehand, hope I don't forget my 20p's for the loos!:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Trig
Good plan AS - and you're no lightweight.Quote:
Originally Posted by alfa_scud
Only 1 out of 202 runners turned up a day early and made his way straight to the pub as soon as he'd parked up his camper van........even Clive kept his powder dry until Saturday
Think the overnight option could be a great thing to encouarge next year - nice spot with great views - some sort of runners meal deal at the pub
Heh heh, nice one Steve. Yes interestingly enough as Ben was pacing me around the race (is that allowed btw?!) I did say to him I'd like to have a crack at one of the mad downhill only races, and maybe even an uphill only race as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trig
Little did I know that I had one right on my doorstep, White Lion to Blue Pig, hmmmmm, I can think of some kinda HFR annual event bolt on!
Maybe White Lion 1 pint, Blue Pig, 1 pint, and back to the White Lion for final pint and race end. Then victory celebration at the White Lion?!?!
At least I only had about 1 mile to walk/stagger back up the tracks in the dark, not sure how Colin M coped on his bike over the old road back home in fading light after probably one gallon + of ale!
Also impressed that Dave (was it Dave?) from Leeds managed to get down to the Blue Pig for afters with road bike and panniers, madness! Hope he got home safely?
Just for you here are St Paul's words again: "Do you not know that in a race all the runners run, but only one gets the prize? Run in such a way as to get the prize. Everyone who competes in the games goes into strict training. They do it to get a crown that will not last; but we do it to get a crown that will last for ever." (1 Corinthians 9:24-25 NIV)Quote:
Originally Posted by threerock
You've also given me an idea for next year (if there is one?) - the parable of the lost sheep! I wonder how many there were up on the moors?
A great day and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Another very positive vote for this race from me too. Many thanks to the many involved in organising such a grand day. That last hill was a corker!
Grim n co - sounds a bit 70's disco - but like it
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Originally Posted by mischeavous elf
Thanks for all your positive feedback (all being passed on to the team)
We are meeting for our "wash up" meeting on Wednesday
WE NEED YOUR IDEAS/FEEDBACK
The whole idea of the HFR was to create a race capable of becoming a classic/championship event plus a well supported community/village event. The first run is just a prototype. Assuming we run in 2012 (fingers crossed everyone will commit to to this) we are very happy to consider changing/improving any aspect of the race and wider event.
We would be interested in any views you may have on the points below - and any you would like to add.....
Possible improvements for any future running of HFR might include;
Date in calendar (clash with Northern Relays/4 Passes/Feinsdale)
Pre race info
Identify/improve any bottlenecks on route
Identify/improve flagging issues
Idendify/minimise risks - road crossing/barbed wire etc
Water stations??
Start time - later in day?
Safety? Kit checks? Random?
Increase ascent v mileage (Cat A)
Look for any new possible lines to take toute off tarmac/track in favour of moor/bogs/grass (with landowner permission) -particularly between Blake Dean and Hardcastle Craggs
Look lines for steeper ascents and descents / nav sections(wth landowner permission)
More race photos -Involve photograpahers - Sportsunday/Woodentops
Get more people spectating finish?
Marquee in finish field to shelter timers and finished runners
More juice/ biscuits at finish field
Prize giving - timing / location (outdoors?)
More music/entertainment
Junior races
Lower key / short race on Saturday to widen access
How to drag more Lakes runners down here
Here's my feedback Stephen:
Poor organisation,
Rubbish course (all road)
Not enough recces organised,
No publicity,
No opportunity to purchase emergency kit before race,
Uninspiring words at the start,
Unfriendly marshalls,
Not enough flagging,
Not a tough enough finish,
Rubblish prizes,
Rubbish website,
Late publishing of results,
Poor quality flapjack at the end.
In summary it was one of the worst organised debacles I've ever experienced as I told you at the finish.
You won't catch me marking it in next year's FRA book with a big yellow marker pen as a "must-do again" race - no chance.
Steve, I think the amount of runners you got for the first of hopefully many runnings of the HFR shows just how much you got right. tbh I was a bit skeptical about the race and especially it's timing, the week after the Hobble, but I'm happy to admit I was well off the mark. I really don't think you need to change much at all. I'd thought of it as a Half Hobble, but I reckon it's more of a Trog Lite, which is meant as a big compliment. Dave and Eileen were out on the course but Sportsunday's involvement would have been good too. Incidentally, there was no clash with the Four Lakeland Passes; we did both!
My advice,
Don't tinker, let the race bed in a few years, let a mature course record be set, don't worry about A standard, plenty of ballbusting races later in the year, nice to get so few retirals in a March race when weather could have been savage.
One possible change re bottlenecks, at orienteering races in the Dales where wall crossings are inevitable, the organisers (usually Airienteers)construct lightweight A-shape stiles/ladders that they bring up and span the walls, to effectively give a 2-lane stile. Let's say at the first stile where there was a bit of a queue, that would be nice.
Thanks 3rock - interested to hear about that stile bootleneck - was that coming out of woods? There was small stile at top of the next fields too. The bootleneck could be linked to an unconfirmed report that the landowner may have had an issue with runners taking a none flagged line around there - like the stile idea.Quote:
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i agree with three rock,just the first section where we dropped down into the wood and ran along side the stream,it was really nice section but the stiles/narrow path and zig zag path caused a bit of a que and the odd nob to try and shortcut and jump the line of people waiting.
it would be intresting to alternate clockwise to anti clockwise,but i think with how well recieved and presented this race was you could easy find 300 plus next year,something you may have to accomodate in certain sections of the route.
Hi Trig,
28 miles across the moors then eh? Sounds like a challenge - I've not gone beyond marathon distance on the roads let alone on the fells. I'd like to give it a go though... do you have a date in mind? I'm running the Windermere marathon toward the end of May so would need to think about a bit of a taper (I don't fancy going into the marathon on tired legs. Early April would be good - get the miles in the legs plus the hill training and a chance to get to know the hills around Heptonstall better. I'll keep an eye on the forum for details of the run.
Cheers,
Joey D
Looking at Sunday 3rd or 10th April - normally start at 06.30/07.00 - very social steady pace plenty of stopping for cake / photos - that said it is nt a good idea for anyone who is nt in the process of building up decent distance (mid pack Heptonstall finishers would be fine) as it can take 6-7 hours - but excellent to build endurance ready for marathons/LDWA events/3 Peaks/Ultras - will see if Hurriers/CVFR are up for it. Probably best not to turn it into anything too big as everyone must stick together - its very remote and in bad weather could be a big problem for anyone wandering off / not keeping up. Its quite hard to bail out after 7 miles so your prettu much committed after Bridestones.
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Hi Trig - if it was the 10th I'd be definitely up for it (I'm already committed to Keighley 10k on the 3rd.) I reckon I've got it in me to stick with it all the way round. I'm signed up for the Yorkshireman Marathon in September. I'm enjoying the fell running no end at the moment. This'll be something to get my teeth in to.
Joey D
Thanks Dylan - a possible solution could be the enlarged stiles suggested by 3 Rock, plus some means of stringing out the field earlier (a bit of additional wide route around village with some ascent)Quote:
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