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Originally Posted by theNoor
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He might have to Boycott if you did.Quote:
Originally Posted by theNoor
How very Swoop Harry!!
Had a final? look round the second half today, nearly got it sorted, we think. Started off cold but dry, finished cold, windy and wet. Quite a few others in the car park but didn't see anyone else running around.
Anyone seen the route description for this in the February Fellrunner mag?
It has you taking the shortcut by Crookstone Barn which has been banned the last few years!
Well this is what it now says on the DPFR web site...
At the fingerpost near Crookstone Barn - turn left following the taped section to the gate at the bottom of the field on the main path - DO NOT follow the old route through the gate at Crookstone Barn, there's a new fence been put up!
I noticed that but on the web site that is definitely mentioned as being not allowed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Thanks for that - wouldn't like to have my true identity revealed!!Quote:
Originally Posted by theNoor
Geoff, you're quite safe. Nobody will ever guess you're that UBFP!!Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
[So long as you keep your kids away from my tent the day after the Duddon!]
UBFP? - What's that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug
Ok, but only if you buy me a pint after the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug
Anyone going over the 2nd half of the course early this sunday morning perchance and would like some company???
How early fellmonster ? Might try to aim to do 3/4 qtrs of the course.Quote:
Originally Posted by FellMonster
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Originally Posted by FellMonster
Maybe Monster....maybe...could pick you up on the way too if you like?
The earlier the better for me....
Fellmonster, Twig how did you get on yesterday.
Had a tough but pleasant run myself. Ran the 2nd half of the course, with only the 1 moment of navigational anxiety - hitting Edale cross (not literally !!!) before dropping down into the village, where I bumped into Stringman, back up onto Lose hill and was within sight of Win hill summit before tiredness hit me. Walked more than ran from there back to Mam tor car park.
If anybody wants to car share (from east manchester) and isn't in a rush after the race send me a pm and I can pick up en -route or meet.
Will somebody remind Fellmonster to bring his fell shoes on the day ;)
:confused: Doesn't sound much like the Skyline route as I know it Manhar.:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhar
Were you running it in reverse? How many times did you run up Lose Hill?
Perhaps he knows a quicker way of doing it.
No Stagger. Lots of people with Manhar's surname have the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
It's called a pattellar tracking disorder!:)
Swoop, Stagger
Just for clarification - after reaching Edale cross I should have said I proceeded along the skyline route and then dropped down into the village from Ringing roger.:confused:
Yeah, apologies about that Manhar.
Ended up trotting over Winter Hill instead. Less than 10 minutes from Edale when I realised. What a plonker! Glad you still got out though.
The more I think about it the more I fancy having a go at the 'down and up' return to Ringing Roger from Grindslow Knoll but don't fancy being the only foolhardy soul (idiot) to try it.
I wonder if I can persuade enough 'middle pack' forumites to join me and have a go at it?
It may or may not be 5 or 10 minutes quicker or slower - to be honest 10 mins either way is not going to affect my position much - I just think it would be good to say I'd tried it...
Sign up here:D
MH
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Originally Posted by Mountain Hare
Hi Mountain Hare ( or should that be MAD MARCH HARE:p )
Good to see some runners taking a bit of a risk/adventure. The route choice seems to be a big decision. It's a bit late for a reccie now so it will be a gamble.
Last year only 6-8 runners tried it and of those most were in the top 30-40. There may have been one or two others that slipped past that i didn't notice in the clag but I admire your ambition.
I will be on Grindslow (as I was last year) so I will keep a tally and report back after the event.
Watch this space....:)
I also fancy this route MH, I am hoping to save 6 to 8 minutes but as you say being lower than middle order its worth the risk. All the best for the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Hare
Recce'd second half this afternoon.:)
Logic says down-and-up should be quicker, if I think how long it'll take to run two level-ish miles at that stage of the race, compared with 2/3rds mile downhill followed by a bit of re-ascent. Only ... that "bit of a re-ascent" looks awfully daunting from below.:eek: However, provisional plan is to take the direct route but will wait until short climb to the cairn on Grindslow before making decision.
I think that we should all keep to the spirit of the race and remember that it is a SKYLINE. Doing a short cut when you're so close to completing a run around a classic route like that is just ... well, instant gratification. If you ask me!
Why all this debate about whether to take the direct route or not? Get out there and try out both to see which is the quickest.
I bet it isn't the same answer for everyone - I can't see myself wanting to descend and re-ascend almost 300 metres that close to the end of the race!
I've been to Edale 8 times this year so far - think I've become a bit adicted. There's a heck of a lot of route choice on this race to try out, but mostly I've just got to quite enjoy running there!Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
I went out again last night - left work early and finished in the dark.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I'm still wondering about doing Jacob's Ladder - Grindslow direct. I know it's 650 feet more ascent more, but it's more runable. Honest.
Cheers Ian,Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Maybe you can point me/push me in the right direction off the top of Grindslow?:D
I've done 3 recce's in the last year - on 2 I went 'around the rim' and on one I went 'up and down'. Not convinced as to which is quicker.
I just fancy doing something a bit different rather than following the herd around the top. The way I look at it whether I finish 300th or 320th makes little odds - getting out and enjoying the adventure is what it's all about for me:)
I await your race stats with interest...
MH
And another thing while we're on the subject...
Can anyone local recommend a good pub for eating at on Saturday night? I'll have Mrs MH and 2 harelets in tow - we'll be staying in Bamford so somewhere close to that would be good.
Thanks in advance:)
MH
Not heard any one else think of that but then when you look at the stats you can see why...Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
I think you'll find that it's nearer 1000ft and 3/4 mile further as you will have to go to Upper Booth. I think that is a no brainer. Nice thought though but that really is going off the skyline.
Ian
Your correct Ian 1000ft ascent and 1.05 miles in length, it saves 1.08 miles of skyline running.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I was under the impression that it was a checkpoint race with only a couple of sections flaged, which suggests the route choice is optional?
Surely everyone will have put the ground work in and choose the route that suits their strengths?
Swoop, what's your schedule for Edale ? (driving, back home, etc...)
I haven't got permission from my wife (yet) but I would fancy coming along to have a look at the race, perhaps we can travel together .... ?
just got back from two days in edale, perfect weather, lovely walking, great days out on the hills.
Am i mistaken in thinking that because the race is less than 250' of climb per mile, it doens't actually class as a category A? i could be wrong, but i thoiught that was who races were classified!
i looked at that grinslow shortcut. if i knew where to go when i get to the bottom, and had reccied a route back up to ringing roger then i might have been tempted. but when you get to the bottom of a climb you've never been up before, it is difficult to navigate your way and not become demoralised.
i'll be sticking to the top ridge.
Quite correct Stagger the Official route is quite clearly laid by the race organiser and is free to be interprated from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
The Gindslow- RR is a definite option if you are brave/strong enough and if you want to go that way I'm sure you would have reccied it.
My comment was purely personal with the reguard to Joe's Jacob Ladder-Grinslow option. I can't imagine that that route would gain you any thing but tired legs.:eek:
Any way it's too nice out there at the moment for any more chatting so I'm off to go for a run.:D
I think you're taking the Micky, Joe. The whole skyline section from Jacob's Ladder to Grindslow Knoll is runnable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Are maps available on the day.
Sorry if this has already been mentioned
Yes I will be selling maps on the day. There isn't many left though so email [email protected] to reserve a copy! Don't rely on turning up and there being any left if you haven't reserved one.
Did this direct route once, about 5 years ago :confused: , and didn't lose any time but didn't gain any over someone with me on Grindslow.Quote:
Originally Posted by theNoor
I found the decent, even though I normally love the down hills, difficult on tired legs as the grass covers a fair few rocks :eek: .
The ascent, if indeed I picked the optimum route, was in heather over rocks which I found again to be difficult and, by the time I had reached the Ringing Roger checkpoint, my legs were somewhat wobbly for a short while, not good on the first part of the drop off Ringing Roger.
I for 1 will be sticking to the edge path this year.
Sorry - it's my wicked sense of humour. I had considered an alternative training run - the "Edale Not Much of a Skyline". You visit all the checkpoints on the real race, but you have to visit the valley in between every one :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
For example:
Start - Ringing Roger - Edale YHA - boulder near top Jaggers Clough - bottom of Jaggers Clough - Win Hill - Hope - Lose Hill - River Noe - Mam Tor - Barber Booth - Ringing Roger - Dalehead - Brown Knoll - down Grain Clough - up Jacob's Ladder - round the edge then down Crowden Clough to Upper Booth - Grindslow Knoll - direct to RR and then finish.]
Some time I'll work out how far it is - and how much ascent!
A rough estimate would be around 9 to 10 thousand feet of ascent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
More that twice Ben Nevis.:eek:
May be one for the future;)
Sounds like good BG training to meQuote:
Originally Posted by Joe
If any one is interested there are a couple of 'runs' around Kinder. One is the Kinder Dozen 24 miles 10,000 ft and includes a circuit of Kinder with you guessed it 12 ascents and descents. A very tough day out
The other is the Kinder Killer which to my mind is a bit easier but longer and takes a different circuit this also takes in a few out laying tops and is a good day out.
If any one is interested in the full route descriptions send me a PM
can anyone actually say they gained time doing the alternative route
it looked very inviting when we recced the race but the legs will be screaming going up teh other side.
im still tempted mind:rolleyes: