BritNick - I think we chatted at the Wizard trail race - I was with your fellow SHACs Lee & James...? ringing any bells? ;)
oh, and btw, do you still want rid of those Walsh Spirits? I could try them on if you bring them tomoz...?
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BritNick - I think we chatted at the Wizard trail race - I was with your fellow SHACs Lee & James...? ringing any bells? ;)
oh, and btw, do you still want rid of those Walsh Spirits? I could try them on if you bring them tomoz...?
Sorry Daz, Wizard trail race isn't ringing any bells with me. Do you mean Whaley Waltz?
I'll bring the Walsh's along tomorrow.
This is my first time also on the Long Tour Of Bradwell... though my first long race i chose to do was the High Peak Marathon this year.. also me and the team are regular adventure racers.. unfortunately only me coming from the team tomorrow.. i will be the one with he NHS Hull logo on my T Shirt, look forward to seeing you all tomorrow...
rugsack packed, porrage ready to be made, now in black helly hanson, Blacks had a sale tdy......good excuse for yet some more clothes
BritNick - yep, me getting confused - I knew it had a W and a Z in it :o
seesyall at registration :thumbup:
You may have noticed me and t'lad in Pindale, Cave Dale and the descent off Lose Hill.
Here's a link to the Lose Hill photos (he took 'em, not me) :-
http://s790.photobucket.com/albums/y...of%20Bradwell/
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Cooler (but muggy) conditions and some small improvements to the route - great descent off Kinder via Rowland Cote Moor and an alternative way up to Dennis Knoll via Bamford which cut out some of the tarmac from Ladybower - made for generally quicker times and an even better day out than last year. Well chuffed to knock 50 mins off my time, though the last four mile pull up to Abney Moor found me out once again.
Oh boy, that was so utterly hard! I felt pretty good until Hope, and then just got slower, and slower, and ... so pleased with myself for managing to complete it. A big thank you to the organisers and all the marshals, and the friendly runners who gave me good advice and encouraged me to keep going! I hope I'll be a bit better prepared for my second ultra, whatever it turns out to be. I was idly considering the Round Rotherham 50 milers, but perhaps it should wait until next year... Many thanks
Your not wrong there Nick. I've got to say thats the worst I've felt in any ultra so far. I got everything wrong. Shoes were sliding around and didn't stop to do the laces up - sore feet. Didn't account for there only being water and biccies at the aid station. Could have done with a pork pie or something salty to stop the cramping up. Ran out of nuun tablets the other week and didn't bother to get any more. Big mistake.Quote:
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Just enter the round Rotherham Nick. Remember the elevation and the terrain ain't as bad as today. Plus its in October so you won't have the heat to deal with.
Great event though and will definitley do it again. A surprisingly small field of runners for a runfurther series race but there did seem to be a lot of experience there.
Thanks to Nick Ham who I desperately tried to keep up with but only managed up to about mile 20 when the heat got to me.
Definitely a toughie. Lack of water at CPs 9 and 12 made it even harder (and made a mockery of the organiser's exhortations at the start to keep well hydrated.) The marshal at CP9 told us to there'd be water at CP12 but that was an hour and a half away and the other side of Stanage. Even more crucially, it turned out not to be the case (though a marshal there had sped off to try to buy a few bottles.) I finished up having to buy water from the ice cream van. On the up side, I also got a cider ice lolly, which was nice, though it did provoke some odd looks from passing walkers.
I was delighted to finish just inside 9 hours despite an involuntary detour between CPs 8 and 9 which involved a couple of hundred feet of additional climb that I really didn't need.
Thanks to Daz the Slug for his company and route-finding over the first 4 hours and to Socks for the last 2 hours, and to a whole group of folk who kept me going during the 3 equally painful hours in between.
Some good photos there, FB. Looking forward to seeing the rest. Thanks for not taking pictures in the later stages.
well that was the hardest thing I've ever done
got about half way round feeling pretty good, and on course for slightly over 8hrs
but got a bit of cramp climbing up out of Bamford, which got gradually worse
much worse
I was basically reduced to power-walking the last 5 hours, as any attempt to speed up triggered horrific cramps in muscles I didn't even know I had!
I think this prob was due to the warm/humid/still conditions - I drank about 5.5litres of liquids, ate all the food I was carrying, and still lost 8 lbs http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/...sed_smiley.gif
it was still a lovely day/route and I tried to enjoy the scenery as much as possible
there's supposed to be a 10hr cut-off, but the organiser very kindly kept the finish open so that I could clock 10:05
T'were the lad, not me. He was trying out a new camera - first time he's taken pics of a race. Got some video in Pindale and Cavedale which he may post later.Quote:
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That was a really tough day out. Thought I'd started out nice and slow so could go faster in the middle section, but that left me absolutely wrecked at the end. Next time I'll hopefully have energy left to figure out who all the forum people are.
Drunkeneuphoria: you're welcome for the grough route. I should have posted here that I'd done it, but it was only on the thursday so thought it might be too late to be useful, and I wasn't sure if anyone used grough anyway. I think the cart track from CPs 12 to 13 was easier than the route I marked. Sorry if the map dragged you the wrong way there.
Glad to see the other comments, I thought it was just me, I was Ok until Bamford, then my knee started to feel pain, lack of water at CPT 9 was poor. I found it hard to believe the milage from Bamford to Burbage, it seems must further and seemed to walk most of the way. My mind seemed to think run but body was not...finnish in 9:16. I was glad i bought the map, when checking in, far easier than using the 2 * OS maps or photo copies. A very sceanic route and the last six miles through the woods were a good, just a pity my mind was on other things..Just a case of waiting for my legs to recover now
FB, those are some good pictures from t'lad. I look forward to seeing the others from Pindale and Cavedale.
The conditions were cooler than last year and the coach track from CP12 was much easier than the valley route. Even though the route was a mile or more longer, some times were faster. I managed to knock 35 minutes off.
That's bad news about water running out at CP9 and CP12. To fail to provide enough is not on. It's not as though it was a scorcher. I feel sorry for those of you who were deprived.
Nick S, you should definitely enter the Round Rotherham. It's nothing like this for ascent toughness.
Fly, glad I helped to pull you along for a while. I just wish I could put a face to the name now.
DazTheSlug, well done for slugging it out the the finish. It was good to officially meet you at last. Good luck with the shoes.
BritNick - Well Done! you must be well pleased with going sub-7:30 :thumbup:
One advantage of being so slow is that they had replenished the water supplies at CP9/12 by the time I got there!
the lass at CP12 said they'd originally taken up 60 litres, which would've been enough for 0.5 litres each, but I was taking 1.0 litres at every opportunity by then!
I think the conditions, although not scorchingly hot/sunny, were deceptively humid/still
I've certainly never been so sodden with sweat in my whole life :w00t:
Britnick - Changed my avatar to one from t'lads collection, might jog your memory although it seems because of your blog everyone knows you so you could be forgiven for not remembering everybody.
I just finished 10 minutes behind you in 7:40 which I was amazed at because I felt awful for the last 10-12 miles, so I am reasonably pleased with that but a bit peed off to have not taken some salty snacks, sure it would have helped.
Looks like I got to checkpoint 9 just in time. There was one water dispensor nearly empty and the guy on his mobile calling for backup saying that everyone was taking 2 bottles worth. Too bloody right. I probably necked 300-400ml on the spot then filled up my 500ml bottle for the journey. Did this at each water stop.
Not sure how hot it was, maybe 20 degrees but the humidity and stillness made me sweat profusely and it wasn't working so the body just sweated some more.
I too took the east path from Burbage Bridge and thought it was probably the right choice. The Higger Tor path looked like there was quite a bit more climb in it.
See you all at HP40 if your doing it.
Heh, the CP9 guy told us to restrict how much water we could take as he was almost empty, and suggested we knock on doors! Luckily we had some money so stopped at Bamford shop to buy some (and a Calippo, which was heaven). Really glad we did as the next one was dry too! Liked the much better flagging of the route this year though.
Got you Fly. It's always good to put a face to a name. I caught you in many of the pictures I took, linked from the report. You did well to finish as fast as you did, considering.
I seem to drink less than most others. I probably averaged only 250 - 300ml per water stop. I made up for it afterwards with a couple of pints (of tea).
Thanks Daz. I like your style, going slowly enough to catch the replenished water supplies. I can't say I sweated that much, especially once I'd slowed down after the exuberance of the first 2 hours or so.
T'lad's posted the climb up through Pindale on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMQUAn7FvQs
(he's also 'swapped' the current audio - me guffawing occasionally - with some music or other but it's not kicked in yet...)
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Thanks for posting the Pindale video (and I quite like the random chat on the audio!) I normally only ever see the back end of the field in races I run, so it's quite interesting to see the pace of the leaders on familiar terrain.
Excellent set of photos linked on the Runfurther site now.
Back from a few days in Scarborough with family, so now I can own up to a pretty poor performance on Sunday. I was OK for the first half, but I went off too fast for the current state of my legs, & by Win Hill I'd nothing left in the tank. Mountain Man then disappeared into the distance, I promptly ran past the checkpoint in the wood above Ladybower Reservoir, wasting about 15 mins, & it was all downhill from then (or rather I wish it had been). I was then in stumble trip mode feeling really rough, and the climb up from Bamford was just awful. BritNick stormed past as I bumbled along the top of Stanage, and so did loads of others for that matter. I was too knackered to care, & I nearly packed it in at the Burbage Bridge CP. Instead I just kept on plodding on, wishing I was home in bed from there to the end, where I collapsed semi-comatose on the grass. 7:35. Next year I'll nail it though, honest...
If it's any consolation Splatcher I found it really tough as well. I think all the stuff I have done this year has caught up wth me - I really struggled in th second half. I went full length on that nice easy level route from Burbage which knocked it out of me as well. All that tarmac and track did not really suit me either - l found it tougher than the Lakes 50!! No doubt I will probably be back next year either to get a better time or come up with yet more feeble excuses!!Quote:
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It was amazing to me that I didn't do the same somewhere along the way. I tripped up more times than I have done all year, but somehow just managed to avoid hitting the deck. Two trips were reasonably spectacular - out of control for many paces, luckily without an audience as far as I'm aware. My legs were just so tired. I took the track from Burbage as well, despite my earlier intentions. By that time I was after the easiest option, not the fastest. I'd be surprised if it wasn't fastest anyway though.Quote:
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I'm sure the track was fastest anyway, Splatcher. The distance is barely a fraction of a mile longer than the valley route, yet the going is so much easier. I took the track in the end and I was glad I did.
Considering you were so wrecked and on the verge of dropping out at UBB, I was amazed how soon after me you finished. You wrecked and me on top form (make that almost on top form but for the L100 and Dovedale Dipper), our paces are quite well matched. ;) You should feel well pleased with your finish under the circumstances.
What time did you manage after the L50, Mountain Man? Do you think the L50 affected your performance? I suppose it must have done if you thought this was tougher than the L50. :eek:
My words of consolation are, no matter what I have done leading up to this, there always comes a point when it becomes tough to make forward progress and the survival walk/shuffle begins. The climb up to Stanage Edge is where it starts for me. I have to slow down, take care of the fuelling and take advantage of the second, third, fourth ..... winds as and when they occur. Then it becomes the familiar balancing act of 'speed' without blow-up until the end.
I clocked 6-57+ on the LTB but my quads became really tight which I have never experienced before. Yes I hope it was the L50 - I found the first half of that really hard work which in turn was probably due to 50 miles/21000' only 10 days before albeit at a steady pace. The LTB is certainly a tough one to do so soon after the L100 - in that context yours was an excellent time.Quote:
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Enjoyed this event again, no doubt helped by having a good run, about 45 minutes quicker than last year. The sun being hidden in cloud the first few hours and the much drier underfoot conditions made for a lot easier going. Definitely taken more of me this time though, had a much more average run at Belper Rugby Rover today than last time, and legs were refusing to work properly going uphill still.
It was still far warmer than I'm comfortable running in though, took my vest off on the climb up Kinder and it was wet through, and though the cloud began to get a bit menacing over there and Lose Hill it stayed off to the finish. Although I took on a couple of drinks at each station plus carried some to get me between them, I suffered from dehydration and couldn't get more than 1 of those chewy peanut bars they were giving out and 1 gel as feeling sick, so by rights should have blown up massively somewhere down the line. Never happened though :) Drunk loads of fluids the rest of that day and Monday and still felt dry until Monday night.
I'm never much good on big climbs and was relatively slow on the first few, but from the car park up to Stanage and up Abney clough near the end went really well. Tripped on a tree root coming down the old quarry works and had a bad calf cramp, but a quick massage from Moorlander hit the spot and though twinges were there several times on the way back to the finish it never really struck in full until after I'd stopped.
Shame for those of you who came to dry checkpoints, not sure I'd have made it without, and it must have got warmer throughout the day too once the sun had been out a while.
Now this is near enough 34 miles, it's a tad longer than both the Marlborough Downs and Osmotherly Phoenix, both of which are mediums in the Vasque whereas Bradwell is a short... Wonder what will happen for next year's series?:confused:
Sorry I didn't get the chance to chat with many forumites (or maybe I did I just didn't know their alter egos...) as it seems there was a good turnout.
Well Done SteveS :thumbup:
we had a "Full Set" of Fell Pony vests out:
You - Pink
Me - Black/White
Tussockface - White/Black
Moorlander - Fluo-Green
my cramp was triggered big time by tripping on a rock hidden in the bracken on the valley route down from CP12 - I never got going again after that :thunbdown:
I think I stored up the problem in the first place by overcooking the early descents - nooby mistake I suppose - I'll know better in future :sneaky:
I can't get on the runfurther site . Been trying over the last few days. Is it down or is it my settingsQuote:
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Thanks in advance
I have the same problem. If it's just the photos you are after, they are hosted on Picasa so you can still access those here.Quote:
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This looks a great one to do:) an excellent one to do just before the BSH I feel, although reading some of the previous reply's, sound's like a really tough event? won't be taking it lightly, that's for sure, look forward to seeing Stanage Edge, pictures look class:thumbup:
would anyone know the milegage and ascent for the 5 hour cut off?
Don't know exactly, but I went round pretty slowly last year and there was no hint of getting timed out.
Got signed up to this, sound's pretty tough but I'm sure there will be some fun to be had:)
How did you find it then socks? and no timed out eh? that's interesting.
Does anyone know if this is the same route as last year?
Does the course normally change from year to year?
The route normally stays the same... cant see them changing it...
It's only run twice and there were in fact one or two slight variations for the second running - including a fine descent off Kinder from Rowland Cote to replace the horrible one to the youth hostel ... but I shouldn't imagine it'll change much this year.Quote:
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Thanks for the info, will probably go and have a look at the course beforehand.
Anyone having a run out at this?
I'll be going for a trot out with a pal, should be fun:)
Any last minute tips?