Welsh 1000s Race

Several years ago half a dozen of us clambered onto the back of the train only for the driver to stop the train and make us get off. Another year whilst trying to do a directissimo by dropping off directly to the campsite at Nant Peris we got crag fast and ended up in all kinds of lumber !.......fond memories

I find that jogging /walking down from the summit a good leg streacher and helps with recovery.It`s best to just finish the race and not hang around and just make your way down on foot,its what most runners do.You should be down in Llanberis in under an hour(easily)and even faster if your going to Pen y pass.

I'm thinking of doing the full race this year for the first time, having only previously done the half version. I went for a reccie of the Carneddau section a few weeks ago and was unsure which was the best route to take from the top of the Aber Falls. Should I cross the river straight after arriving at the top of the falls and work my way up towards the Berras or is it better to follow the river for a while and cross further up?

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Originally Posted by Llechan Wlyb

Should I cross the river straight after arriving at the top of the falls and work my way up towards the Berras or is it better to follow the river for a while and cross further up?

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Not too far up, I normally cross near the sheep fold, then straight up the bank and through the Bera's. That's about the hardest section.

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Originally Posted by EarthSongWoman

I am doing the 'namby pamby' 1/2 too... it didn't feel very namby pamby last year I have to say - respect to those of you who can do the long one! One day I will!

This is the thread from last year - some route advice here too. http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...tre-Peaks-race

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Recce'd the half-race yesterday in fine vis (apart from Yr Wyddfa summit obviously, usual views there I'm afraid...) Quite agree with the comment above - my mates who are doing the full race as 'Mountaineers' just can't help themselves taking the p1ss out of me for doing the half-race. So they refer to it variously as the "namby-pamby version", "girls' race", etc, etc :rolleyes:

A question to you experts regarding the best line down from the llyn to Pen-y-Pass: -

There is a fence running down from the south end of the lake to the Youth Hostel; we took the right hand side of this but then ended up climbing back over the fence to reach the east end of the hostel, and the descent was a bit dodgy navigating through small crags.

Is it best to descend with the fence on your right the whole way ?

Other than that, route-finding was pretty easy :)

Link to the short video of my recce of the short race: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbzNH4R51gA

May be of vague use to someone :)

I'm going to have a crack too. First time. I've done the 3000s, but this is a wildly different route I expect.

The advise here is all great - cheers to those who have contributed.

cross the river using the fence and then keep it on your right. You drift quite far left away from it across a juicy bit of ground towards a knoll in the distance. It looks too far left but it's not. Once around this lump in drops a few metres into another juicy bit and then climbs up, I think there is a fence or post to guide you. From there it's a drop down to the back of the youth hostel on the capel curig side

I cant afford the time to recce this one so will do it blind and use the force .....

I will be up there on the Friday night somewhere localish if anyone else is around and fancies meeting up?

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Originally Posted by sheeplover

cross the river using the fence and then keep it on your right. You drift quite far left away from it across a juicy bit of ground towards a knoll in the distance. It looks too far left but it's not. Once around this lump in drops a few metres into another juicy bit and then climbs up, I think there is a fence or post to guide you. From there it's a drop down to the back of the youth hostel on the capel curig side

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Cheers SL

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Originally Posted by sore legs

I cant afford the time to recce this one so will do it blind and use the force .....

I will be up there on the Friday night somewhere localish if anyone else is around and fancies meeting up?

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May the force be with you ;)

I'll be arriving far too late Friday night to meet up, but will be attending the prize-giving/booze-up in Capel Curig after the race, so may see any forumites there ?

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Originally Posted by sore legs

I cant afford the time to recce this one so will do it blind and use the force .....

I will be up there on the Friday night somewhere localish if anyone else is around and fancies meeting up?

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I didn't get the chance to recce it either, but am confident enough from what I've gleaned from my little book. I hope to be up there for about 5.00 and will go and register around 6.30. I've got race number "1" if anyone wants to say hello. Probably the first and last time I'll be no.1 in a race!

Just read that no GPS's are allowed in the race. I wonder if that includes Garmin Forerunners?

Hummm interesting,no gps allowed.
i think its a stupid rule ,safety of the runners should always be a priority.if you can get from one checkpoint to the next no mater what navigational device you have i cant see how you would gain an advantage over anyone. after all ,be it a compass or a GPS you still need the skill to use it effectively.
i know that a thread has been on this issue before,and i still think that the rules should adapt with the technology after all the compass as we know it was once a new tech device. also this is not an orientiring event but a fell race

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Originally Posted by rocksteady

Hummm interesting,no gps allowed.
i think its a stupid rule ,safety of the runners should always be a priority.if you can get from one checkpoint to the next no mater what navigational device you have i cant see how you would gain an advantage over anyone. after all ,be it a compass or a GPS you still need the skill to use it effectively.
i know that a thread has been on this issue before,and i still think that the rules should adapt with the technology after all the compass as we know it was once a new tech device. also this is not an orientiring event but a fell race

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Rocksteady, allow me to disagree with you on many counts!
Yiannis

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I didn't get the chance to recce it either, but am confident enough from what I've gleaned from my little book. I hope to be up there for about 5.00 and will go and register around 6.30. I've got race number "1" if anyone wants to say hello. Probably the first and last time I'll be no.1 in a race!

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I will keep a look out for the number and say hi - or shout after you when you pass me !! :o

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Originally Posted by Twister

I didn't get the chance to recce it either, but am confident enough from what I've gleaned from my little book. I hope to be up there for about 5.00 and will go and register around 6.30. I've got race number "1" if anyone wants to say hello. Probably the first and last time I'll be no.1 in a race!

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Originally Posted by sore legs

I will keep a look out for the number and say hi - or shout after you when you pass me !! :o

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I'm number 401 and doing the half-race. Say hello as you come belting past me ;)

Disappointed about the GPS ruling as well, I was looking forward to having a play with with my new Forerunner 205. Doesn't really matter as I recce'd the route anyway, but would have been fun :(

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Originally Posted by ydt

Rocksteady, allow me to disagree with you on many counts!
Yiannis

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feel free,thats what the forum is all about.

I'll be packing a gps in my bumbag as a emergency. I'm sure GPS's do give an advantage, but then so so all other bits of kit. It's a stupid rule. What next, Walsh fell shoes with hessian underpants only? They need to get with the times.

Probably a stupid question - but does anyone know where in Llanberis the bus goes from if you are getting the bus to the start at Ogwen? Is it outside the Snowdon Railway by the Queens hotel?

Thanks

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Probably a stupid question - but does anyone know where in Llanberis the bus goes from if you are getting the bus to the start at Ogwen? Is it outside the Snowdon Railway by the Queens hotel?

Thanks

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Hey ESW - the JIs say it leaves at 1000 from The Royal Victoria Hotel in Llanberis, at a cost of £2.50.

See you there :)

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Originally Posted by EarthSongWoman

Probably a stupid question - but does anyone know where in Llanberis the bus goes from if you are getting the bus to the start at Ogwen? Is it outside the Snowdon Railway by the Queens hotel?

Thanks

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As per race information:

Bus time (08:15 - Class A race) from
The Royal
Victoria Hotel
Llanberis. Cost
£2.50
ydt

Thanks thats great

For the Ogwen start (10:30), class C & E, the bus leaves at 10:00, The Royal
Victoria Hotel
Llanberis. Cost
£2.50

ydt

Hi there

My car has failed it's MOT

I am after a lift from Llangollen to the start.

Can anyone help please? My number is: oh seven 8 two 8 132 428

Thank you

Dave

Some pictures, taken on the summit of Snowdon, of the race are on the site..

http://www.fellrunningpictures.co.uk/1000metre2010.html


Al.

Any know results,top 3 etc

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Rodders rambler

Any know results,top 3 etc

Thanks

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Heard from Math R via text that Tim Davies won, Sam Smith 2nd, Simon Ellis 3rd, Matt Fortes 4th.. no times. Not heard womens.

In the Short Gwyn Williams docked 30 mins for lack of kit, so Paul Jenks won, Adam Haynes second. Think Jenny Hemming won the womens short.

Not sure of anything else, I'm now out in Oregon, so only had texts..

Cheers

Iain

Andrea won the womens long one.

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Originally Posted by IainR

Heard from Math R via text that Tim Davies won, Sam Smith 2nd, Simon Ellis 3rd, Matt Fortes 4th.. no times. Not heard womens.

In the Short Gwyn Williams docked 30 mins for lack of kit, so Paul Jenks won, Adam Haynes second. Think Jenny Hemming won the womens short.

Not sure of anything else, I'm now out in Oregon, so only had texts..

Cheers

Iain

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Thanks Iain,great to see Tim running well and regularly again.

Aren't runners normally disqualified for not taking the correct kit?

Results are up

http://www.welsh1000m.org/previousresults.html

Report up on the Eryri site.

Says the docked time was harsh, but if he didn't have the required kit then I think they had no choice. Docking times seems a good way of dealing with it. There's good prizes to be had at that race so they shouldn't encourage no/lack of kit. Don't know the details of what kit he didn't have though.

Strange this race never gets that strong a field compared to the Peris or other big mountainous longs.

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Report up on the Eryri site.

Strange this race never gets that strong a field compared to the Peris or other big mountainous longs.

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Not surprising, with a net uphill of 3,500ft, many, like myself, find it harder than usual. Then, the crowds on the ascent to Snowdon were unbelievable! Nothing short of a traffic jam.
Yiannis

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Report up on the Eryri site.

Says the docked time was harsh, but if he didn't have the required kit then I think they had no choice. Docking times seems a good way of dealing with it. There's good prizes to be had at that race so they shouldn't encourage no/lack of kit. Don't know the details of what kit he didn't have though.

Strange this race never gets that strong a field compared to the Peris or other big mountainous longs.

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I think that Gwyn wasn't carrying any waterproofs and that's why he was docked 30 mins.

First time for me in the full distance of this race and I struggled from Ogwen onwards. Was glad just to finish in one piece in the end!

I think one of the reasons not so many enter this compared to others such as Peris might be the fact that you can't enter on the day. I'm just glad that I can now finally say that I've done it!

I did the short race, and aprt from really suffering with the heat from halfway along the Pyg track I really enoyed it. I drank 1 litre before the start, another 0.5 litre to Pen-y-Pass, another .75 lites there and found another .5 litre from a trickling stream just below the zig-zags, and in spite of that I still couldn't move my legs at any more than a medium walking pace on the last climbs... Having said that I managed the race 4 seconds inside of my target time :D

Full race next year then :eek:

On the long race I drank an adequate amount of water (couple of slurps from streams incl) but the Pyg rack was a complete bitch, I never felt that I was making any headway. The crowds up and down there were unreal - worse than on a sales day in the shops!! :mad:

I am glad to see people getting out to see the wonderful countryside environment that our country has on offer, but the lack of 'mountain etiquette' was unreal, frustrating and potentially dangerous - several times I was nearly knocked off the path down a drop (only small ones 2 - 10' though) due to people barging past on their way down, nearly stuck my head into a few peoples daysacs and arses due to them suddenly stopping without stepping out the way as well !!

A good day though if a tad warm ! :D

First time for me and had a mega day out. Never seen crowds like that on Snowdon. Guesing it was due to three peak walkers? Have to agree about lack of 'mountain etiquette'

Although I didn't participate in this race I must agree with CD re mountain etiquette. I ran snowdon last wednesday via miners track and down Llanberis Path. Going up the miners wasn't too bad and the few people that were on the path kindly let me through but on the descent, it was horrendous. No one had a care in the world, there were families galore including kids and dogs, if I had knocked someone over then it would have probably been my fault. I'm not saying that we mountain runners need preferential treatment but surely some common sense must come into it. I am dreading the Snowdon Race this year because the amount of people on the mountain seems to grow every year.
End of rant
SJ

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Originally Posted by Snowdonia Jogger

I am dreading the Snowdon Race this year because the amount of people on the mountain seems to grow every year.
End of rant
SJ

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From what I've heard if you get up to the summit under an hour you'll be able to use the train track.

1000m peaks is bad, but Snowdon race is worse, because in the snowdon race you hit the crowds at pace, lets face it in the 1000m you have to try to not be over taken by them...


If you run up Snowdon, early or late is the answer.