Would people recommend as a good value allround trainer/racer?
Or are the issues with durability just not worth the sub £40?
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Would people recommend as a good value allround trainer/racer?
Or are the issues with durability just not worth the sub £40?
Wore mine for the first decent distance yesterday. It appears they give me a heel blister on the left foot after 6-7 miles, which made for a fun 7 miles back to the car. Should be avoided in the future with some strategic taping, not ideal, but there you go.
Other than that, they were overkill for the conditions, as it wasn't quite as boggy as I anticipated, but were useable on varied terrains.
.....my local glue/mud managed to fill the treads up several times, though.
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.....my local glue/mud managed to fill the treads up several times, though
Well, for me the fit and feel was fine, the grip was great on the really muddy stuff, but as you can see from the pics I posted the uppers just disintegrated too quickly for them to make sense for me, regardless of the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underwood
Wondering if I didn't look after them well enough - typically I tend to get my shoes wet and muddy, and if they are lucky they'll get a rinse in a stream or bucket before being stuck in the airing cupboard to dry - perhaps this cycle of wet and dry isn't good for them.
Anyway, I've just replaced them with a pair of Mudclaw 300s which are uncannily similar, albeit at £81. Really hope I get a reasonable mileage out of these :o
Well, go back over the thread. I think there's enough comments for you to decide for yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underwood
For me, they are going to be kept for racing as they are the best shoes I've ever had for grip, feel and overall confidence and comfort.
I'll train in something less able but cheap and long lasting like kanadias
I know, I know...you did warn me.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
When my mark 1s failed after 57 runs (53p per run) I thought that was disappointing but jusk about OK in terms of value for money. The Mark 2s are currently on 14 runs and showing no signs of wear as yet - fingers crossed. I have ionly bveen keeping records since I bought the mark 1s but subjectively, compared to previous shoes I don't think they are particularly long-lasting. I always found Walshes were tough but they are not what they were these days (or maybe I'm not what I was...). The shortest-lived pair if shoes I've recently had were a pair of Inov8 Roclite 285 and probably the most long-lasting were Mizuno Wave Harriers. At £50 (if you can get them at that price now) they are probably better value than the Cheviots, but they don't have the grip!
It's pot luck, conditions and foot shape a lot of it though - I've got a pair of 285s that are still going strong after 300 miles, but had a pair of Wave harriers that started falling apart after just 120!
You could have a point, given which, you are better off buying the £30 shoe - especially as they perform so well in every other way:thumbup:!Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
Oo, i think i might give these a go after reading all your comments. I too get fed up at the increasingly maddening cost of mudclaws and salomons!! They seem to be able to price things as they want due to the lack of competition against them. Good on More mile to give it a go and all the best to future developments I say. :wink: I've had many pairs of different trainers and found nothing to really last. My speedcross really fell apart after about 10 months! I guess I had done a BG, and a Meirionydd round in them, so I mustn't complain too much:D
hoth, one Meirionnydd is enough for any shoe!
Seriously though, I am on my second pair of More Mile mk1. I did lots of miles with my first pair; the studs are still good but one suffered a small tear on the side, thanks to the tough Scottish Highlands heather. One of the most comfortable shoes for me.
My wife bought a pair of these a few weeks back, the grip and fit is superb. She's done about 60 miles in them and the upper has completely disintergrated. Such a shame as she loved them but even at £30 she won't be buying another pair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Underwood
Glad it wasn't just me that managed to destroy a pair so quickly! I loved mine too, they could be onto a winner if they could sort the crummy uppers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ridgback
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Originally Posted by richsund
I used to say the same about my Roclites :p
I had to superglue some studs that were hanging off my x-Talons (after only 150 miles) so I'm saving them for 'best' now & have used the Cheviot mk 2's for training lately including a Borrowdale recce which as we know is pretty rough. One swallow doesn't make a summer I hear you say but for now (admittedly on 60 odd miles) I'm happy to report no problems with the uppers & they appear a decent shoe. The 2 for £50 offer applies to different sizes as well & a mate who took advantage of this with me is also very happy with them.
We were shown a sample of a new lightweight More Mile shoe this week called Pennine that is meant to be available in November.
It looked very good, on a par with the innov8 x-talon at a retail price of £45, its definitely going to shake things up.
I had a run round Borrowdale recently too but my Cheviots, well one of them, now has a split above the side of the rubber toe cap. 150 miles in total. :thunbdown:. Shame, they are comfy and grippy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bog Beast
Done a few hundred miles in the Cheviots now, but not much on tough mountain terrain, mainly tracks, trails and riverbanks, studs have worn down quite a bit but the uppers are still intact, well pleased with them.
Whilst shopping with wifey I popped into Mountain Warehouse and Momentum Brahim trail shoes caught my eye. Tried 'em on and felt really comfy, £55, anyone tried 'em out.
I did 30 miles in my Cheviot 2's before the uppers started to go. It's a pity as they are comfy and have great treads. I daren't use my other pair (they were 2 for £60 I think) on anything other than local jaunts.
Uppers went on mine after a 100 miles or so. Didn't get a lot worse though, must have got another 150 miles out of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callmehobbes
Just received a pair of the Mk2 yesterday and will give them a quick test at lunch. Nothing too taxing as have Ben Nevis tomorrow. I weighed mine as they felt a bit heavy but I'm a size 11.5 and they weighed in at 400g exactly the same as my Crosslites and only 10g heavier than my XC's. Only a tiny bit heavier than Mudclaw 270 too and feel just as flexible as the others really. I'm hoping they'll stand up to the rigours of Skye.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will.Race
Neil
I've done over 250 mile in my MK 2's and have to say they look almost as good as new!
If I have a criticism with them it is the fact that they don't hold my foot whilst cross contouring which can be uncomfortable. I did the last 15 mile of the SBU35 in them last weekend and they were great.
Stu
Saw a few pairs at Ben Nevis yesterday. They were down before me but that doesn't say much!
Noticed Blands have started doing these.
I just ordered my 2nd pair of the mk2s to go with the 2nd pair of clumpy mk 1s I recently bought. I got a pair of the originals last September for £30 and wore them as my main training shoe right through the winter. They are clumpy but as a cold weather slow-pace training shoe I found them OK. The uppers went after about 6 months (57 runs) and I replaced them with a pair of the mk2s, which have lasted all this summer. They now have holes in both sides of the uppers of both shoes but they still feel OK to run in so I'm still using them after 61 runs.
I've bought another pair of the mk1s (at £25) to clump through the winter in but have also ordered another pair of the mk 2s because they are such good value. The latter are much more supple than the mk1 and perform so well that I'd use them for fell racing, no problem.
The fact that they don't last particularly well is not really an issue to me. The cost represents about 50p per run and if you keep replacing them it means you have a newer shoe on your feet for more of the time. Lets face it, it's not a great idea to have a pair of beaten up but 'everlasting' shoes on your feet, with baggy uppers and a beaten-down midsole, is it?
I must say I'm a convert to More Miles. I have been a "life-long" Walsh fan but I have to agree with a clubmate who says they are "a young man's shoe" .. Perhaps I'll get another pair of PBs just for those (now rare) 'serious' races.. ;)
Done about 200 miles in them and they're pretty much as good as new. Had a few problems with the insole sliding about at first but swapped them for some crosslite ones and they're much better. Great grip, really comfortable and have stood up to everything I've thrown at them really. Felt a bit clumpy at first but after a week or so they softened up. Been up the Cuillin,red and black and all over really with no problems. Easily as grippy as mudclaws. A bargain. Did someone say they were bringing out a lighter version this year?
I have a pair of these and I have to say for the price they're amazing. quite comfy, amazing grip I've run up steep thick mud without slipping. They may not be perfect but I can but 3 pairs for the price of some other brands.
Do you mean lighter than the Cheviot2? If so that'd be great. The Cheviot2 is already a much lighter and more 'responsive' shoe than the original Cheviot though. With a slightly more hard-wearing upper they'd be brilliant!Quote:
Originally Posted by neilly
I heard a rumour of a lighter weight shoe called Pennine as a sort of alternative to the Inov 8 X Talon, but cant find anything about them anywhere.
Anyone in the know ?
Dan
I'm a complete convert to MoreMiles Cheviots as training shoes. I'll stick with Mudclaws in muddy races, but the Cheviots are great for deep muddy footpaths, and I suspect the soles won't wear down as fast as Mudclaws.
It's nice to have a cheap alternative to Inov-8s.
Does anyone know what the toe to heel drop is with the More Mile Cheviot Mk II shoes? Thanks
After 4 months and maybe 300 miles a big hole had developed next to big toe, still got another 100 miles left I reckon. Bought some Wave Barriers last week and they're not as comfortable or grippy as Cheviots.
I thought this too. But to be honest I'm now thinking along the lines of Mark 1 cheviots for training and mark 2 cheviots for racing...Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
I got a pair of these recently. Never had a pair before. They look and feel good BUT gave me aweful blisters on both heels. Has anyone else had the same problem? Is there a braking in period on them?
No heel problem here. In fact no problems at all. Very comfy and grippy and a completely incredible deal at 30 quid (mk2s). That amount of grip and comfort is great. Done @50k in them so far so early days but dare I say they are as good as mudclaws. A tough heavier but not so much as to be material. If they last less time, I'm still 30 quid up on innovs when buying a second new pair.
Genuinely astonished at what 30 quid has got me.
Sorry if it has been asked before, but how does the sizing come up? Startfitness say to go a half size up, jt not sure I trust them!
I ordered my normal size and needed to return them for 1/2 a size bigger so I guess they are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
I take a 11.5 in inov8 s and same in these.
Thanks Wooj and Neilly, though that's confused me even more then :)
Guess I really need to try a pair to be sure....
When I said "my normal size" I meant my everyday shoe size. They were too tight. For me they needed to be a half size up. Hope that helps.