There's a better descent line than the track up if you know where you're going..
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There's a better descent line than the track up if you know where you're going..
Ive planned on doing this
I should hopefully be there for the u/18sjuniors
It was quite a sight watching everyone flying down. Though I was still on my way up.....:mad: I must make the cut off time this year. Missed it by ten mins last time, but so did quite a few. We just carried on anyway....being stubborn.... :p
which bit? From the summit I wasn't sure the lower off track route is that good really. The obvious short cuts are quick, I was unsure if they were allowed, but went anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longdogs
I thought leaving the track and traversing below it on the grass was worthwhile, but you have to be careful not to overdo it. Cutting the zigzags off was good but very steep and tiring on the quads.
Keep to the left after the rocky bit from the summit (but not too far) makes for good grasdsy descent and then at the zig zags (steeper bit) go straight down the middle but only worth it if you go for it. I am slightly cautious because a couple of years ago going staright down the middle i got tangled up in a bit of loose wire. I always find the hardest part of Cadr is hitting the bottom and going back past the lake - my energy reserves always seem to be arock bottom at that point. But done it a few times and recommend it. It wasa scorcher last yaer and needed to take on water but they laid on water stops. It followed a scorcher at carneddau the week before also. That's another nice race about same distance - 8th may this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I didn't know there was a cut off, though. Has there always been?
Yeah agree on the direct line, not sure the top line is much quicker at all - I followed that way going up but coming down stayed close to the path, I don't like being on slopes which slope across your ankles though, found it hard going. Yeah did it last year, had a terrible climb, but descended well, can't remember where I finished, 4th I think. Pretty hot, but hot early season days always hurt more.
There was water at the car park, but did you get any water on the hill, it was there but in drums and I think you had to pour it yourself, I didn't bother stopping.
Not long before this one now. :eek:
If I don't make the cut-off time again I shall be mad..... :mad: :p
Try and get water and/or fuel on board before you hit the road on the descent. I felt good coming off the mountain but when I hit the road, I felt like shit and it took me ages to get going again.
That's true!! Cader last year was only my third ever fell race.
People had warned me about what happnes when you come off the mountain, and was'nt sure what they meant.
"you've just descended for 2.1 miles at the rate of ****!!, then you're back to running flat or undulating terrain".
"Your legs dont get any chance to adapt to the sudden change of pace or muscule use"
I'll make note of it this year!! they allso reckon that on the way back on the path round Gwernan Lake to the town, that's where most of the overtaking takes place. In the past it's been where the race has been won or lost.
Went up for a quick sniff around last night. Hill fog was down so not much use in terms of looking for lines.
Can feel the quads today and will expect to feel them more after racing. First 10m fell race for me looking forward to having a go.
Evening peeps,
I am thinking of doing this race but have no idea of what to expect. I have read the thread re cut off times etc but can anyone tell me how hard it is until the cut off? I have done the Snowdon Race a few times, how does it compare to the Snowdon Race?
Cheers
SJ
im in the same boat . done snowdon race several times and often thought about doing this . how does it compare ?
I staggered up/down Snowdon a few years ago in 2:18, and had no trouble in making the cut-off at Cader
There were a few of us useless buggers that missed the cut-off last year, but only a handful. Can't see the cut-off being any problem for decent runners & experienced fell runners.
I'm just going to shift a bit faster at the start, as I was taking it too easy at the start last year I think, thinking the cut-off would be easy.....
Thanks for the replies. I am fairly confident I can make the cut as I can get to Clogwyn Bridge, the cut off for the Snowdon Race in 55 mins.
Hope to see you there.
SJ
Think I'm going to wonder over from Shropshire for this one. Looks hellish ;-0
Hell but FUN!!!!
(Where have the smilies gone.....?? I can't see them since the site changed...)
Ria - you have to press the "Go Advanced" button to get the smilies, but the new ones are rubbish anyway, so i just copy in my own smilies from elsewhere http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/forum/...ink_smiley.gif
Ah ha......:D My smilies are back!! :cool: But you're right Daz, they are rubbish.... :( Yours look like Runner's World ones! How did you do that....???
Got my number notification though. I'm 84. :D
:D just got my entry back, #100.
Its my first race in Wales, in an area that holds lots of good memories for me,
I'm really looking forward to this. Off to Wales this weekend so going to have a quick recce tomorrow - if it isn't too hot!
It's going to be WELL hot this weekend. :eek: Hope it's a bit cooler for next weekend.....:cool:
Are you going to do the Saddleworth Fell race the day after Ria???
Think I'm doing the Ilkley fell race on the Sunday Tom. It was good last year.
Does any one know if you can enter on the day ? I've emailed the organisers but as yet haven't had a reply.
Just answered my own question. Had a look in the WFRA diary and saw £7 in advance or £10 on the day.
Well, what a shitty weekend. My attempt to conquer Cader has been dealt a blow as I cracked my toe yesterday morning by kicking a door, don't ask!!!
All the best to all of you that's taking part.
SJ
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Hi nightingale - did this last year and it was a really hot day - luckily had some water on the summit from some walkers - it's a great race - my legs were so heavy on the last few miles - transition from mountain to road was a killer...lead legs! then the heat didnt help - got over the finishing line - collapsed but the free mars bars perked me up :-)
there's a river next to the main car park and i just sat in that afterwards - cold initially but bliss :-)
see you there
Dylan
so maybe I'll be following you around again (although weather forecast had better be right if it's this hot I'll offer to marshall!)Quote:
Originally Posted by nightingale
Bad luck Snowdon Jogger. See you there Dylan and Lurker. Hope it cools down a bit. Looking forward to cooling off in the river.
It was really hot on Saturday but despite that I made the cut off time on my recce - started feeling very dizzy and strange with about 1/2 mile to go!
Forecast is that it should cool down significantly by next weekend - I hope it does!
Hope to see a few of you there - sorry to hear about your toe Snowdon Jogger hope it heals quickly.
Oh poor SJ. :(
You'l never get a reply from the email on the website nightingale. Don't know why they put it there. :mad:
You'll be even faster next week Emma as it will be cooler. :cool:
Cheers Ria - I'm hoping so it was tough in the heat!
Are you confident this year? I'm sure you'll be fine.
might be doing this not 100% sure as yet..
No, not confident at all Emma. Have been feeling very tired running this past 2 weeks. Tired as soon as I start. I'm worried as I'll be on my own this year. Last year a friend ran it too, so he knew I was still out there when I carried on without any marshalls. This year if I miss the cut-off, no-one will know I'm there. I have to finish it, but I know the mountain can get dangerous if the weather closes in.
Go on Penguin.....you know you want to......:D
....looking quite tempting for me this one.
website states "The route then follows the main footpath to the summit of Penygadair" which is pretty cool as that has my name in it :d
Website also states plenty of parking at the Marian, is that quite obvious to find?
Got a reply yesterdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Ria
"Hi John
No problem
You can enter on the day.
Regards
Andrew"