Harriers V Cyclists

Don't forget people that this weekend at 2pm sees the crazyness that is the Harriers v Cyclists, great race, great atmosphere (especially when you pass the cyclists!).

See you there 2pm, Fisherman's pub, Bingley.

I'll be there, & probably running, not on the bike

(not sure if anyone's been brave enough to form an 'away-team' yet??)

i'm hoping to be there too. really enjoyed my first experience last year.

fingers crossed my knee holds out!

I'll be doing the boring but fast Abbey dash on Sunday so won't be there. Eventually I'll make it but this year I want a fast 10k time....

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Originally Posted by Rob Furness

I'll be doing the boring but fast Abbey dash on Sunday so won't be there

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Quite a lot of our members are at the 'Abbey' too, as it's part of our 'Grand Prix' series.

I'm down at the 'Barnsley 10K' on Sunday, but not sure if I'll be struggling around it, or flying, due to the 'H v C'

(the 'Barnsley' course has got quite a sharp hill roughly a mile from the start)

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Originally Posted by RichardAThackeray

I found out to my cost in 2007, before I bought another cross-bike, that it can be hard on a MTB
Then, even though I'd bought a cross-bike, I compounded the error in 2008, by using the Trek again, thinking of the discs for the descent off Baildon Moor & the drop down to the finish



But, anyway, here's my 'take' on it, having run, & ridden it



Pro's;
1. Very big clearances, so less clogging, compared to a cross-bike, especially as I use 1.8" front & 1.5" rear tyres on mine, which also cause less drag, having less resistance (Specialized Houffalise??)

2. The front suspension was useful on the long rough descent from the top of Baildon Moor, then through the boulder strewn trail on Shipley Glen, & that concrete (railway) sleeper track

3. The disc-brakes actually offered retardation in the most horrible mixtures of cow-shit and mud, without chewing the pads to pieces, on the first/last 2 fields, & the drop back down to the finish

4. The low gearing made some parts rideable, that I know I'd have to run(stagger up[?), or at the least struggle to ride on the Cross bike see point 4 'Cons'



Con's;
1. The smaller frame in comparison to the Cyclo-Cross bike made the sections that required it to be carried very awkward (MTB = 17" frame/sloping Top-Tube. Cross-bike = 53cm Centre-Centre)

2. The weight was a large factor over the Cross bike (roughly 7 - 8Ib heavier?)

3. Gearing was too widely spread on the faster, rideable, sections

4. I could possibly ride certain sections that were 'questionable' (on grounds of gradient), as it was lighter than the Trek.

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Thanks for that. The mtb isnt really rideable for this one so I'll be running it. I ran over baildon moor down to the glen last weekend and it was mud a plenty

Never got round to doing this race - I have a cross bike and I have fell shoes - I just need to make an effort on the fitness to qualify! Pics online.

http://adyinaccy.smugmug.com/Other/M...X2/CVH1-X2.jpg

http://adyinaccy.smugmug.com/Other/M...X2/CVH2-X2.jpg

Well hacked off this afternoon!

A reasonable start, then whilst climbing up through the boulders/woodland onto the top of Shipley Glen, I collected a branch in the face.:rolleyes:

No-ones fault, just one of those things, but I lost a contacnt lens, felt like i'd been smacked in the eye, so called it "quits" there & then.

Driving back to Wakefield, via Bradford was .... interesting:confused:


So, after an hastily (ie; pleading request!!) appointment to try & get more lenses, it appears that I have scratched the Cornea, so have to let my Eye 'rest' for a week.


Bugger!!!!!

SO, no 'Barnsley 10K' tomorrow now

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Originally Posted by RichardAThackeray

Well hacked off this afternoon!

A reasonable start, then whilst climbing up through the boulders/woodland onto the top of Shipley Glen, I collected a branch in the face.:rolleyes:

No-ones fault, just one of those things, but I lost a contacnt lens, felt like i'd been smacked in the eye, so called it "quits" there & then.


Bugger!!!!!

SO, no 'Barnsley 10K' tomorrow now

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Tough break there Richard, hope it's not too bad.
Thoroughly enjoyed the race myself, thanks to all the organisers and marshalls. Weather was as good as I can remember in mid Nov, the last two weekends running I've been overheating, sweating buckets, and squinting into bright sunshine.
At 6 miles 650 ft it looks not too bad on paper, but there's not much opportunity to take things easy, I was pretty spent by the end.

bad news richard. i think I saw you go past me just after the concrete sleepers. sounds tough, hope it's nothing too serious.

really enjoyed it again. the course is really good. i enjoy getting up close and personal with all that lycra and spinning metal :p my first race back after 6 months and everything seems to be ship shape so one happy camper here.

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Originally Posted by Ze Monsta

Tough break there Richard, hope it's not too bad.
Weather was as good as I can remember in mid Nov, the last two weekends running I've been overheating, sweating buckets, and squinting into bright sunshine

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Yes it was surprisngly dry & certainly favoured the cyclists on what bit I saw of it:sneaky:

Although, it was a bit chilly before the race, I was going to just wear a vest, but ended up putting a short-sleeve t-shirt under it (glad I did for the walk back to the car....)

Thanks, it's definately going to be a long week, as I have no spare lenses, & my glasses are an old pair with an ('out of date') prescription

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Originally Posted by Ze Monsta

At 6 miles 650 ft it looks not too bad on paper, but there's not much opportunity to take things easy, I was pretty spent by the end.

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Agreed, it's harder than it ought to be, given the statistica

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Originally Posted by superflyguy

bad news richard. i think I saw you go past me just after the concrete sleepers. sounds tough, hope it's nothing too serious.

really enjoyed it again. the course is really good. i enjoy getting up close and personal with all that lycra and spinning metal :p my first race back after 6 months and everything seems to be ship shape so one happy camper here.

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Glad you enjoyed it!

Were you running, or riding? (I ran again this year)

The Eye's staring to get a bit itchy now, as if there's an eyelash in it constantly

Just a few pics here
https://picasaweb.google.com/1156944...LWx54_zyrCzRg#

and there was me thinking that Rule 9, section P paragraph 12 subclause C clearly stated that "safety glasses/googles must be worn (not carried) if woods/low hanging branches have been identified as a potential hazard"

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Originally Posted by superflyguy

and there was me thinking that Rule 9, section P paragraph 12 subclause C clearly stated that "safety glasses/googles must be worn (not carried) if woods/low hanging branches have been identified as a potential hazard"

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Thanks, now you tell me:sneaky:


Still, just one of those things, it could have happened in previous years, or my runs to work along river-bank/through local woods

And, if I'd been a couple of seconds sooner, or later.........................

Results are here

Photo's here

Well done to Ian Taylor knocking 10 seconds off the course record and an even bigger well done to Vic Wilkinson for knocking 16 seconds off her own course record!

Quite a few mtb's in attendance I saw. Fair play to the guy near the front on mtb too.

Well folks it's that time of year again... bring on the madness that it Harriers V Cyclists
This year races date has changed to the 10th November so make sure you change your diaries. As usual there will be drink and pies available after the race.
More info can be found here

Diary entry 'done & indeed dusted' & day-pass arranged:thumbup:

Hoping to bring an away-team this year, as there's a few members (still not many though) who fell-race.


After last years 'DNF', due to the unwanted Cornea & tree-branch interface, I've got a score to settle with the race this year

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Originally Posted by RichardAThackeray

Diary entry 'done & indeed dusted' & day-pass arranged:thumbup:

Hoping to bring an away-team this year, as there's a few members (still not many though) who fell-race.


After last years 'DNF', due to the unwanted Cornea & tree-branch interface, I've got a score to settle with the race this year

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Sounds good Richard, bring as many as you like :D

I heard somebody at the Withins race this weekend describe the HvC race as "...I think they must ride different courses..." so for all you HvC virgins out there, both runners and riders compete over the same course, makes it all that much more interesting!

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Originally Posted by Womble

Sounds good Richard, bring as many as you like :D

I heard somebody at the Withins race this weekend describe the HvC race as "...I think they must ride different courses..." so for all you HvC virgins out there, both runners and riders compete over the same course, makes it all that much more interesting!

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Sorry, but I'm quite hacked off at the moment, as SWMBO has told me this evening of a family related happening on the same day that I'm expected to attend that will probably last less than 5 minutes for our part:angry:

And..... as is to be expected, it's not even hours later (or before the race), it's during the time I'd be out there

Almost a bloody year waiting for a return to this course, after last years DNF, & wanting to get a damned good time.

Bugger, blast & buggeration!!!!!!

Richard, what a shame. There is always next year!

A couple of things to note to all those that are doing the Harriers V Cyclists.

The local council have seen fit to paint double yellows on a few spots above and below the Fisherman's pub, if possible please car share otherwise it's a slightly longer walk to registration.

Secondly, after putting the registration angels through the mill over the last few years, we are having registration in the Fisherman's pub this year rather than on the canal bank.

See you all on the 10th:)

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Originally Posted by Womble

Richard, what a shame. There is always next year!

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Thankyou, but I am still crossing fingers (& toes) that she'll let me keep my appointment in Bingley, but not setting my heart on it yet!

The best of luck to all runners & riders tomorrow

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Originally Posted by RichardAThackeray

Thankyou, but I am still crossing fingers (& toes) that she'll let me keep my appointment in Bingley, but not setting my heart on it yet!

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There's still no 'management decision'/statement on this delicate situation. Yet.....

Photos of a cracking race at www.sportsunday.co.uk

Attachment 6494

More photos can be found
here courtesy of the Woodentops
here courtesy of Mick Watson

Photos of race here, enjoy...http://www.woodentops.org.uk/

Results can be found here

Cracking race this was thanks to all who help put it on,I went out with the Bingley lot in the evening they now how to have a good time ! Highlight was seeing who could crawl though the smallest chair ha ha.

Great wins for runners Tom Adams & Vic Wilkinson, plus Andy Peace cyclist - first set of pics up of Harriers V Cyclists race on http://woodentops.co.uk more to come tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Seymour Hills

Great wins for runners Tom Adams & Vic Wilkinson, plus Andy Peace cyclist - first set of pics up of Harriers V Cyclists race on http://woodentops.co.uk more to come tomorrow

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Great work surfaces!

Hard or soft?

or

Wooden surfaces of course.

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Originally Posted by Rodders

Great work surfaces!

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I think I prefer that website to having to suffer seeing pics of myself!

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Originally Posted by dominion

I think I prefer that website to having to suffer seeing pics of myself!

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Have you turned out today Dom?

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Originally Posted by Stagger

Have you turned out today Dom?

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Of course - it's one of the best races ever!

Enjoyed it immensely, & very happy to get back after a DNF in '11, & not getting there in '12.

Was a bit slower than wanted, or expected (shouldn't have done Pontefract ParkRun in the morning & saved the energy!!)



'Wheezing Donkey'!!!!
Apologies for briefness of chat to you

Whoops wrong website, please forgive this is the proper one http://woodentops.org.uk/

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Originally Posted by RichardAThackeray

Enjoyed it immensely, & very happy to get back after a DNF in '11, & not getting there in '12.

Was a bit slower than wanted, or expected (shouldn't have done Pontefract ParkRun in the morning & saved the energy!!)



'Wheezing Donkey'!!!!
Apologies for briefness of chat to you

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Richard, no worries. I had to press on and get up to the moor to give my club mate a shout. I think that I'll be back for this one another year - hopefully get fit enough to participate - it seems a cracking event; I'll spread the word within Bowland F.R.

Ian Roberts.

Results can be found at http://www.bingleyharriers.co.uk/eve...s-vs-cyclists/

Great video from this years Harriers V Cyclists race can now available! https://t.co/FVIqPQrm2L thanks to @20twentyfilms