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What? You mean cycling is not completely clean now? I thought it was all that nasty Mr Armstrong bullying others into it.
I suggest dear, gentle and much misunderstood Lance be invited back into the sport...
...so he can bully riders out of using drugs.
,,,so he can bully
I watched 'Stop at nothing' on Netflix this week.
It hasn't improved my opinion of the man.
Speaking of which, http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...stified-154856
I saw a photo on the BBC website this week of two sportspeople involved in a major sporting event. They look 30 to 50% bigger and more muscly than their counterparts from yesteryear....just saying like
so man sports to choose from.....
The trouble is wages, fame and rewarding success. If we did sport for the taking part it wouldn't encourage cheating. Just imagine, you'd get a letter through the post saying you'd been picked at random to represent UK in the olympics. You wouldn't need to train, and whoever won, it wouldn't matter - you'd all get a medal for taking part.
Trouble with that Noel.
Is there'd be a very small chance I'd both have to compete, and represent my country of birth. Neither of which I want to happen.
But what a spectator sport it would be. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
It was ever thus noellyQuote:
Originally Posted by noel
How about; those who take performance enhancing gear are handicapped and those that take performance un-enhancing stuff(pies, beer etc), get a head start?
I like that idea. The English cricket team could get a 150 run head start against the Aussies. It would be a lot more entertaining, and England might win the odd game.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/31788505
DiscussQuote:
One "respected cycling professional" believes that 90% of the peloton is still doping, another put it at 20%
Riders are micro-dosing, taking small but regular amounts of a banned substance, to fool the latest detection methods
The abuse of Therapeutic Use Exemptions, sick notes, is commonplace, with one rider saying 90% of these are used to boost performance
The use of weight-loss drugs, experimental medicine and powerful painkillers is widespread, leading to eating disorders, depression and even crashes
With doping done now on a more conservative basis, other forms of cheating are on the rise, particularly related to bikes and equipment
Doping in amateur cycling is endemic
Can we think of any well known GB cyclists that seemed unusually prone to crashing?
The painkillers is an inretesting one, how many have taken ibuprofen.
Anyway, still commonplace in the peleton would be my guess. As it may well be among many, many sports.
I use ibuprofen and also Beetroot juice. I have been known to take Marmite before and caffeine gels while running.
WHAT HAVE I DONE?????
I think you're ok with normal foodstuffs
But id keep quiet about the Marmite. I guess you need an Marmerta in your running circle.
Now this I would be happy to watch...
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/...-2015030996071
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“He’s so ****ed he lifts off and cycles into the sky, trailing stardust behind him.
“I would watch that.”
Toffer. Two biggies...two broken hips. Come on mate, own up. Thats not lemonade you've been quaffing down the Butchers is it??
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/33749208
Meh
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According to the experts, the database reveals:
A third of medals (146, including 55 golds) in endurance events at the Olympics and World Championships between 2001 and 2012 were won by athletes who have recorded suspicious tests. It is claimed none of these athletes have been stripped of their medals.
More than 800 athletes - one in seven of those named in the files - have recorded blood tests described by one of the experts as "highly suggestive of doping or at the very least abnormal".
A top UK athlete is among seven Britons with suspicious blood scores.
British athletes - including Olympic champion heptathlete Jessica Ennis-Hill - have lost out in major events to competitors who were under suspicion.
Ten medals at London 2012 were won by athletes who have dubious test results.
In some finals, every athlete in the three medal positions had recorded a suspicious blood test.
Russia emerges as "the blood testing epicentre of the world" with more than 80% of the country's medals won by suspicious athletes, while Kenya had 18 medals won by suspicious athletes.
Stars such as Britain's Mo Farah and Jamaican sprinter Usain Bolt recorded no abnormal results.
Athletes are increasingly using blood transfusions and EPO micro-doses to boost the red cell count.
They're back on Armstrong's case again, aren't they? I heard all of his cancer testing data is now being gone through with a fine tooth comb to see who knew what and when.
Want to eat them words Noel. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Happily. What a difference a new coach makes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/34758228
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/34752212
Headline "Athletics corruption on a "different scale" says (WADA) report.
It's looking quite serious for the Russians. The report authors are saying they've not seen the likes of it since uncle Lance and the US Postal team; state supported doping apparently.
Be very interesting to see what Coe does - political flannel or real action to clean up the sport.
and about time he gave up his 300k a year job advising nikeQuote:
Originally Posted by EwenM
Absolutely!Quote:
Originally Posted by lilactime
Coe said the out going cheat was salt of the earth.
Also said cycling was far worse than athletics.
He needs to look in the real world.
Ultimately, this is all our fault for being obsessed with people winning things. If there weren't the incentives, people wouldn't cheat.
Participation sport is the way forward. If someone comes first, good for them - nothing more.
Why? Nike don't sponsor the Russian team. Oh , hang on...Quote:
Originally Posted by lilactime
Tricky thing sponsorship. Reebok used to sponsor the FRA Fixtures Calendar with Sponsored by Reebok on the cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deadlegs
But you didn't find any adverts for rival shoe companies inside.
Absolutely! Sadly fell running was rooted in the local laird putting up prize money as an incentive to determine the fastest farmworker / shepherd / gamekeeper to run up and down the local hill. But your comments above surely embrace the true grass roots attitude of the amateur code.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Sports done. It's no different to the new James Bond
Not only that, the guides races were big gambling events too..... so would almost certainly have had an awful lot of fixed results and petty bribery. Anyway, that said, races and sports matches should be all about winning or, failing that, doing your absolute best. Sport is competition, that's the whole point.Quote:
Originally Posted by wheezing donkey
Fair comment Brian; but if you read the post from Noel (that I quoted), he acknowledges "winning" but not at all costs. Winning is only an achievement if it is "within the rules" / "on a level playing field" etc. A win by cheating is worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
It isn't really a James Bond film ..... Ian Fleming never wrote a book entitled "Spectre".Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
It's all pretty sad really isn't it.
When I grew up I was a junior armchair sports nut. Watching all I could on Grandstand and World of Sport, the big events such as Olympics and World Cup.
There were some great sporting heroes around - problem is many are now discredited.
Everything seems tainted now. If it isn't the obvious one of drugs cheats, it's financial backing and the power and influence that brings, betting scams, bribery of competitors and/or officials.
And it's not just for money.
We've seen the Sunderland guy catching the bus at the Kielder marathon.
We had a guy about 10 years ago who joined our Ribble Valley 10K at about the 6K mark, had the brass neck to pick up his VET award and be lauded as he went to the top of his age group rankings.
I've also seen the connection of an U13G tell the lead runner during a cross country race that she had been DQd, which upset the leader and allowed his athlete to catch up and win.
So sport at all levels brings the worst out of many people and at the same time can be the most uplifting and inspirational.
I suppose we have to just accept it and try to deal with the S*&t when it happens.
Agreed. Just taking that a bit further: not all people are good, and some of those partake in sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
It's a shame but almost inevitable that the bigger the rewards, and the larger the participating numbers, the more likely people are to cheat.
Well, one thing fell running certainly hasn't got is a level playing field. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wheezing donkey