great pic wharfee!
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great pic wharfee!
Yes indeed and a who's who of the Western Fells :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Cracking photo's Wharfeego - (certainly the 2nd one :)). Saw you sprinting of Bessyboot-well done on getting round and taking the snaps.
I was wondering what happened Livi - was expecting you to glide past at any point - I've had problems with my knees this year- we'll both be back tho'.
I got a pack of gels on special offer a while back and this came with it. Have to say, the stuff without caffeine works wonders on relieving cramp after races so not entirely useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
Wasn't really a bonk, or not the usual type anyway (I've had plenty of those). I had the normal amount I would eat before a long race and took in 5 gels, 2 strong gatorade sports drink sachets, and two fruit drinks with sugars in on the way round. More than I would usually take in. At Holme Moss I had 4 gels and that was the lot + very little breakfast beforehand and I still finished 16th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
1l with caffeine, 1l without + a coffee and one of the gels I had climbing Dalehead had caffeine in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I felt like this on my only DNF which was the 3P's last year, it just wasn't my day. It was as if my body wouldn't produce any energy regardless of what went on. I'm not complaining however, I set the target of completing Borrowdale and managed it, however crap I felt towards the end. These things happen and you just have to roll with it.
Exactly that Rob. You can't win 'em all. When in doubt 'ave a brew of tea (with caffeine!) and everything will be oreet!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob Furness
ps...thanks for the kind comments on the last pic; it's amazing what you can do with a compact Panasonic Lumix. I'm loking for a quality waterproof compact camera for future races.
Aye, that's not a bad idea that, might go brew up now :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
bloody hell 4:25 isn't bad - and you;re allowed to be tired at the end of borrowdale. Well done and enjoy having knocked off this classic
Mark (a not at all dismal 4:35 - a pw but still pleased with the achievement)
True, and cheers. I was only disappointed for walking towards the end and feeling so wretched towards the latter third. But as I said, I ain't complaining. The target was to finish, and I did that. Enjoyed the atmosphere too, the finish was great, nice to have everyone's name called out on the tannoy. And nice to see so many nice folk on the way round. Including the shouty guy on the side of gable with a pipe and the people bantering with me as I lay upside down on the side of Dalehead. Cracking day out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Smith
That's a stunner Wharfee wish I'd stayed with you!
Manhar - next year and we'll both finish it, deal?
Yep, that's my motto!Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
What a brilliant race Borrowdale is! Thanks to everyone involved with organisation and marshalling, it was a great day out.
For me it is THE definitive fell race, just the right distance and ascent, tough climbs, even tougher descents and terrain that stretches my modest race ability to the limit. Usually feel utterly wrecked by Dale Head but felt quite comfortable this time, although my legs were totally dead in the last mile coming into Rosthwaite.
Nipped round to the institute afterwards for a brew and felt much better.:)
6 hours of wet feet and a Borrowdale Alien is born!
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7110/7...ee5bc10f_z.jpg
Alien Toe! by Andy Holden, on Flickr
Now that's WEIRD!
Its the face of Jesus! :D
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Just a few photos while I tried to chase runners and reccy the race for next year [maybe]. Hope this works:w00t:
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Think i can only attach 5 pics at a time?
They are great photos Sunrise and such a good record of the race.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L50Kifmy59Y
This is a clip of the first half of the field I took on Bessyboot. When I can get my act together I will try and post the other half !
Reminds me a bit of Malcolm Muggeridge :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
http://i592.photobucket.com/albums/t...muggeridge.jpg
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HygFbaGXn4w
Bessyboot vid. Middle of the field
Oh my goodness, I look like I'm dying on that video! I did spend the first half of the race feeling rubbish (bad headache) but luckily I really perked up for the second half. Just goes to show it's worth persevering. :)
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Originally Posted by Lefty
Good observation Alf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alf
Blimey Livi-not another deal - I'm already on the start line with Witton park at Ennerdale-think I need to lie down in a darkened room..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Livi
Lying down in a darkened room is good relaxation training Manhar;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhar
Watched last weekends race and thought it was great, would love to have a go at it next year but not sure I'd manage it. Toughest race I've done is Yorkshire 3 Peaks, done that a few times, but it always kills me, how much tougher is Borrowdale? I realise I'd probably have to get up to The Lakes a few times to help prepare, but maybe its just out of my league.
A bit of lying down does you good :oQuote:
Originally Posted by stevefoster
Borrowdale is harder for sure. About 50% of Borrowdale is spent going up and 50% down whilst for the 3 peaks its more like 30% going up and 70% going down. And most of Borrowdale is over completely bonkers broken ground, both going up and down, whilst most of the 3 Peaks isn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fozzy42
Borrowdale versus the 3 Peaks (Not exactly a fair comparison as I ran the 3P really fresh and bouncey whilst my Borrowdale race was on the back of a shed load of other running - I doubt however that I could ever come close to running Borrowdale as fast as I can run round the 3P)
It's horses for courses, I suppose. In 2008 I did 3 Peaks in 3:42 and Borrowdale in 3:40, so not much in it for me.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z4bvWQLFDw
Video of the final 1/3 of the field on Bessyboot 2012. Hopefully that's everyone.
To be fair the winning times of both races are quite similar too. Although I didn't set any land speed records on Saturday with my 4:33 hours I felt okay (apart from maybe going up Dalehead) and really enjoyed myself - that said I just checked my garmin reports and in the 7 days prior to Borrowdale I did run 63 miles with almost 20,000 ft of ascent so I'm counting that as a bit of an excuse :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
Interesting to compare. I did my best Three Peaks in 4.30 (at the race) and did just over 5 hours as a steady solo run. I did Borrowdale in 5.08 taking it steady (and going a bit wrong at one point!). Borrowdale feels harder and its at least 6miles shorter so going on what people are saying, perhaps you can judge what time you'd do on Borrowdale by looking at a Three Peaks time and vice versa but I think you'd need to be prepared for the extra ascent of Borrowdale and the rockiness. Three Peaks is easier running imo.
Nay lad!Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z4bvWQLFDw
Can't mek 'ead nor tail of that link?
I don't think they are directly comparable. 3 peaks is hard precisely because the running is on easier ground for a lot of it, so the pace goes up and when you hit the serious climbs of Whernside and Ingleborough it hurts! However, Borrowdale is much rougher underfoot and there isn't really that many sections you can recover on, you're either climbing up a mountain, or descending down very rough rocky ground, so not much opportunity to get a rhythm going and disperse the lactic etc. from your muscles. I've done both, and DNF'd on the peaks (although that was a couple of years ago) and managed to hang on for Borrowdale. I'll let you know next April when I have a good crack at the peaks again.
Bottom line is, they're both hard, but very different.
No results out yet not on fra or Borrowdale website.
Results courtesy of Wharfedale Harriers
Results have been up on borrowdale website for a few days now on the fell race pageQuote:
Originally Posted by Dixie
That's the mobile version, Wharfee. Try this one:Quote:
Originally Posted by wharfeego
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z4bvWQLFDw&feature=plcp
You might want to skip straight to 7min 15sec where someone hogs the view for about a minute ;)
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Originally Posted by DinoF
Heehee! Nice wun DinoF lad :D
Very similar for me too.. Think I was high 3 teens for both.. Not sure either is harder.. Two different races... Both fairly runnable but 3peaks far more so...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
Cheers for all the response. From what I've seen and heard its as I feared, Borrowdale looks tougher. I'm definatley gonna have a go at it next year, but as I live in Hull (3.5 hr drive to Lakes) its gonna be tough getting the training in that I need.
Stair climber at gym or cross trainer on high resistance maybe would help. I suffered a lot at Borrowdale despite putting in a lot of hill work. Unless you live in the lakes it's hard to get long enough climbs in. My personal conclusion is that I'll continue with the hill work but I need stronger legs too so I'm working on that with the bike and cross trainer as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fozzy42