This statement by the organiser is clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillJ
As long as the post is before the gun goes BANG.
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This statement by the organiser is clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillJ
As long as the post is before the gun goes BANG.
Points updated after Sedbergh 3 Peaks.
Lloyd Taggart was top scorer again (22), just ahead of Pippa Maddams (21) and Tim Davies (21).
My Footloose Four were the top scoring team (43) :D, followed by the Kinky Foursome (42).
No L-Plates moved up the most places, from 24th to 21st in the Kaliber league, where we have a new league leader: BGS's Blinders.
As always, please let me know if you spot any mistakes - I got a bit behind in updating the teams, so I may well have missed a substitution.
The next counter will be lakeland classic Wasdale, 10th July.
Runner points from Sedbergh 3 Peaks: (only those earning more than 1 point)
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Pippa Maddams = +21 points (finishing=1, posn pts=20) - total points for year = 42
Clare Whitehead = +20 points (finishing=1, posn pts=19) - total points for year = 38
Olivia Walwyn = +19 points (finishing=1, posn pts=18) - total points for year = 60
Anna Lupton = +18 points (finishing=1, posn pts=17) - total points for year = 37
Lauren Jeska = +17 points (finishing=1, posn pts=16) - total points for year = 90
Helen Fines = +16 points (finishing=1, posn pts=15) - total points for year = 86
Nicola Meekin = +15 points (finishing=1, posn pts=14) - total points for year = 15
Emma Clayton = +14 points (finishing=1, posn pts=13) - total points for year = 65
Jackie Lee = +13 points (finishing=1, posn pts=12) - total points for year = 76
Helen Berry = +12 points (finishing=1, posn pts=11) - total points for year = 18
Sarah Ridgway = +11 points (finishing=1, posn pts=10) - total points for year = 28
Jane Reedy = +10 points (finishing=1, posn pts=9) - total points for year = 41
Jenny Hemming = +9 points (finishing=1, posn pts=8) - total points for year = 9
Judith Jepson = +16 points (finishing=1, posn pts=7, vet pts=8) - total points for year = 31
Jill Mykura = +7 points (finishing=1, posn pts=6) - total points for year = 7
Mel Hyder = +6 points (finishing=1, posn pts=5) - total points for year = 6
Aly Raw = +12 points (finishing=1, posn pts=4, vet pts=7) - total points for year = 26
Pippa Wilkie = +10 points (finishing=1, posn pts=3, vet pts=6) - total points for year = 25
Gill Myers = +8 points (finishing=1, posn pts=2, vet pts=5) - total points for year = 17
Christina Rankin = +2 points (finishing=1, posn pts=1) - total points for year = 2
Tracey Greenway = +5 points (finishing=1, vet pts=4) - total points for year = 74
Lynne Clough = +4 points (finishing=1, vet pts=3) - total points for year = 21
Liz Batt = +3 points (finishing=1, vet pts=2) - total points for year = 74
Louis-Jones Tami = +2 points (finishing=1, vet pts=1) - total points for year = 2
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Tim Davies = +21 points (finishing=1, posn pts=20) - total points for year = 22
Rob Hope = +20 points (finishing=1, posn pts=19) - total points for year = 78
Andy Davies = +19 points (finishing=1, posn pts=18) - total points for year = 19
Stuart Bond = +18 points (finishing=1, posn pts=17) - total points for year = 41
Matt Speake = +17 points (finishing=1, posn pts=16) - total points for year = 38
Robbie Simpson = +16 points (finishing=1, posn pts=15) - total points for year = 34
Darren Kay = +15 points (finishing=1, posn pts=14) - total points for year = 59
Lloyd Taggart = +22 points (finishing=1, posn pts=13, vet pts=8) - total points for year = 138
Danny Hope = +13 points (finishing=1, posn pts=12) - total points for year = 64
Ian Holmes = +19 points (finishing=1, posn pts=11, vet pts=7) - total points for year = 88
Prasad Prasad = +11 points (finishing=1, posn pts=10) - total points for year = 11
Craig Roberts = +16 points (finishing=1, posn pts=9, vet pts=6) - total points for year = 16
Jim Davies = +14 points (finishing=1, posn pts=8, vet pts=5) - total points for year = 52
Chris Steele = +8 points (finishing=1, posn pts=7) - total points for year = 23
John Heneghan = +7 points (finishing=1, posn pts=6) - total points for year = 7
Karl Gray = +10 points (finishing=1, posn pts=5, vet pts=4) - total points for year = 26
Ben Bardsley = +5 points (finishing=1, posn pts=4) - total points for year = 37
Steven Cale = +4 points (finishing=1, posn pts=3) - total points for year = 11
Andy Peace = +6 points (finishing=1, posn pts=2, vet pts=3) - total points for year = 11
Mark Roberts = +4 points (finishing=1, posn pts=1, vet pts=2) - total points for year = 19
Mark Palmer = +2 points (finishing=1, vet pts=1) - total points for year = 34
Team positions after Sedbergh 3 Peaks:
Timothy Sheep Daleside league
1st Forum Floosies' Favourite Fellsters 2010 (Another Team) - 279 points (+41), subs made:2
Lloyd Taggart=138 (+22), Mike Fanning=31 (+1), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Steve Hebblethwaite=27 (+1), ex: John Brown=10
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2nd Footloose Four (BillJ) - 229 points (+43), subs made:1
Rob Hope=78 (+20), Lauren Jeska=53 (+17), Tamara Hird=20 (+1), Tracey Greenway=74 (+5), ex: Simon Stainer=4
3rd Fab Four (GeoffB) - 219 points (+39), subs made:2
Helen Fines=86 (+16), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Tracey Greenway=52 (+5), Jonathan Deegan=7 (+1), ex: Andrew Wrench=1
4th Go Go Gadget (Inspector Gadget) - 164 points (+34), subs made:1
Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), Lauren Jeska=54 (+17), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Graham Pearce=28 (+1)
5th Pyjama Party (PaulJonesforEngland) - 158 points (+36), subs made:1
Anna Lupton=37 (+18), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Liz Batt=59 (+3), Tim Werrett=2, ex: Suzanne Budgett=1
6th Groovy Times (Weetabix Power) - 147 points (+39), subs made:2
Pippa Maddams=42 (+21), Lauren Jeska=53 (+17), Mike Robinson=10, Mike Fanning=16 (+1), ex: Wendy Dodds=1, Darren Kay=25
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7th 4 sheets to the wind (Samt) - 95 points (+10), subs made:2
Chris Steele=23 (+8), Shaun Godsman=11 (+1), Holly Williamson=16 (+1), Morgan Donnelly=39, ex: Ben Abdelnoor=6
8th MT's All-stars (Multiterrainer) - 80 points (+14), subs made:2
Danny Hope=64 (+13), Karen Davison=12, Matthew Hulley=1 (+1), Dave Milliken=1, ex: James Kevan=2
9th Conquering Cumbrians (Lost in the Clouds) - 46 points (+1)
Hazel Robinson=31, Helen Garrett=8, Sue Wood=0, Jonathan Deegan=7 (+1)
Boddington-Smiths league
1st Team Bluff (Bad Magners) - 223 points (+33), subs made:2
Morgan Donnelly=39, Darren Kay=59 (+15), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), ex: Anna Lupton=19, John Brown=10
2nd Neckbolters (Fnstein) - 208 points (+33)
Emma Clayton=65 (+14), Lauren Jeska=90 (+17), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), Wendy Dodds=30 (+1)
3rd The Kinky Foursome (Feet in the Cowclaps) - 207 points (+42), subs made:2
Wendy Dodds=30 (+1), Tracey Greenway=5 (+5), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Ian Holmes=88 (+19), ex: Tim Werrett=1, Richard Roberts=10
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4th Superstars (Stagger) - 196 points (+36), subs made:2
Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Liz Batt=42 (+3), James Logue=21 (+1), ex: Zanthe Wray=1
5th Team Tup (Derby Tup) - 185 points (+31), subs made:1
Lloyd Taggart=110 (+22), Gill Myers=17 (+8), Wendy Dodds=30 (+1), Mike Robinson=10, ex: Rob Jebb=18
6th The Also Rans (Also Ran) - 166 points (+20), subs made:1
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Ben Abdelnoor=35 (+1), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Wendy Dodds=30 (+1)
7th CV Navigation Team (So Wood) - 163 points (+34) - up from 8th, subs made:2
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Lauren Jeska=53 (+17), Tamara Hird=19 (+1), ex: James Logue=4
8th DCL's Demons (Dew Claw Lassalle) - 162 points (+34) - up from 9th, subs made:2
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Phil Winskill=2 (+1)
9th Rampaging Rhinos (Leeds Rhino) - 147 points (+17) - down from 7th, subs made:1
Emma Clayton=65 (+14), Wendy Dodds=26 (+1), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), Mike Fanning=33 (+1)
10th Jellybaby's Jellybabies Mk II (Jellybaby) - 122 points (+24), subs made:2
Jo Gillyon=8 (+1), Pippa Maddams=42 (+21), Steve Hebblethwaite=27 (+1), Holly Williamson=16 (+1), ex: Graham Pearce=16, Darren Kay=13
11th Red and White Army (Maloni) - 93 points (+13), subs made:1
Ben Mounsey=2 (+1), James Logue=21 (+1), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), Karl Gray=26 (+10), ex: Sally Newman=19, Steve Smithies=2
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12th Team Tomcee 2010 (Tomcee) - 81 points (+8), subs made:2
John Heneghan=7 (+7), Louise Roberts=15 (+1), Morgan Donnelly=39, Adam Breaks=1, ex: Rob Hope=19
13th The World is full of Smelly Feet (Socks) - 79 points (+18), subs made:1
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Chris Steele=23 (+8), Shaun Godsman=11 (+1), Gill Myers=17 (+8)
14th NB's Hells Fells (NirvanaBliss) - 73 points (+16)
Helene Whitaker=10, Darren Kay=59 (+15), Ben Mounsey=2 (+1), James Kevan=2
Kaliber League
1st BGS's Blinders (BGSec) - 191 points (+24) - up from 2nd, subs made:1
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Holly Williamson=16 (+1), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Tracey Greenway=74 (+5)
2nd Whooosh!! (Wynn) - 187 points (+17) - down from 1st
Nicky Spinks=50, Sarah Ridgway=28 (+11), Tracey Greenway=74 (+5), Ben Abdelnoor=35 (+1)
3rd Pigtails Plodders (Pigtails) - 184 points (+29) - up from 3rd=, subs made:1
Lloyd Taggart=22 (+22), Mike Fanning=2 (+1), Tracey Greenway=74 (+5), Wendy Dodds=30 (+1), ex: Rob Jebb=56
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4th Marrows Muppets (Marrow) - 173 points (+18) - down from 3rd=, subs made:2
Morgan Donnelly=39, Mike Robinson=10, Mike Fanning=33 (+1), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), ex: Danny Hope=17, Tamara Hird=1
5th Pint o'Pride (TheHell I Will) - 166 points (+21), subs made:2
Ian Holmes=74 (+19), Jon Wright=25 (+1), Wendy Dodds=29 (+1), Tim Edward=3, ex: Helen Fines=34, Anna Kelly=1
6th The Brighty Bunch (Mr Brightside) - 164 points (+40) - up from 8th, subs made:2
Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Clare Whitehead=38 (+20), Mike Robinson=10, Liz Batt=42 (+3), ex: Zanthe Wray=1
7th No chips no cider (Ady in Accy) - 163 points (+35), subs made:1
Anna Lupton=37 (+18), Mike Fanning=31 (+1), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), ex: Lynne Clough=13
8th Road to Glory (Morning Glory) - 155 points (+21) - down from 6th
Ian Holmes=88 (+19), Mike Robinson=10, Wendy Dodds=30 (+1), Steve Hebblethwaite=27 (+1)
9th Dogz-Gonadz (Inov-8 Insider) - 142 points (+19), subs made:2
Mike Fanning=31 (+1), Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Mike Robinson=10
10th Fantasy Flipflops (Stentifrog) - 141 points (+23), subs made:1
Tracey Greenway=52 (+5), Simon Bailey=13, Lauren Jeska=73 (+17), Steve Oldfield=3 (+1)
11th Fowlers Fantastic Four (Al Fowler) - 132 points (+32) - up from 13th=, subs made:1
Darren Kay=59 (+15), Lauren Jeska=34 (+17), Kirstin Bailey=24, Jon Morgan=14, ex: Ben Mounsey=1
12th Better Late than Never (Saz) - 121 points (+8) - down from 11th, subs made:1
Graham Pearce=12 (+1), Pete Vale=28 (+1), Wendy Dodds=29 (+1), Tracey Greenway=52 (+5)
13th= Blockheads (Runway) - 117 points (+15) - down from 12th
Danny Hope=64 (+13), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), Mike Robinson=10, Tamara Hird=20 (+1)
13th= Los Burros (Johnny Foreigner) - 117 points (+17)
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Mike Robinson=10, Tamara Hird=20 (+1)
15th Team Duffers (Duff) - 116 points (+19) - up from 15th=, subs made:2
Jo Waites=16, Lauren Jeska=90 (+17), Claire Duffield=1 (+1), Alex Whittem=8 (+1), ex: Andrew Wrench=1
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16th Ernie's Team (Mrs Stagger) - 115 points (+18) - down from 15th=, subs made:2
Morgan Donnelly=39, James Logue=21 (+1), Rob Gordon=0, Lauren Jeska=53 (+17), ex: Zanthe Wray=1, Mary Gillie=1
17th= Tiggers Brown Vests (IanDarkPeak) - 114 points (+34) - up from 19th, subs made:1
Nicky Spinks=50, Jon Morgan=14, Stuart Bond=18 (+18), Judith Jepson=31 (+16), ex: Es Tressider=1
17th= Dux's Destroyers (Dux de Lux) - 114 points (+17) - down from 15th=
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Steve Hebblethwaite=27 (+1), Alison Eagle=0
19th Turbo's Tantilisers (Turbo Tom) - 108 points (+20) - down from 18th, subs made:2
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Lauren Jeska=53 (+17), Shaun Godsman=23 (+1), Gavin Mulholland=2 (+1), ex: Ben Mounsey=1, Sharon Godsman=1
20th Dominion's Demon Descenders (Dominion) - 101 points (+26)
Karl Gray=26 (+10), Darren Kay=59 (+15), Holly Williamson=16 (+1), Heather Dawe=0
21st No L-Plates (Noel) - 75 points (+19) - up from 24th, subs made:2
Olivia Walwyn=39 (+19), Kirstin Bailey=24, Jon Coe=1, Zanthe Wray=1, ex: John Brown=10
22nd Kunama Kings (Biara) - 72 points (+6) - up from 23rd
Angela Mudge=0, Ben Abdelnoor=35 (+1), Ricky Challinor=0, Ben Bardsley=37 (+5)
23rd= Joliver's Army (Bo Peep) - 71 points (+1) - down from 21st
Sally Newman=39, Chris Smale=0, Jon Wright=25 (+1), Andrew Wrench=7
23rd= Eleanor's Lovelies (Eleanor) - 71 points (+3) - down from 22nd
Simon Stainer=6 (+1), Britta Sendlhofer=4 (+1), Hazel Robinson=31, Wendy Dodds=30 (+1)
25th Ridgy's Runners (IainR) - 69 points (+14)
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Sarah Ridgway=28 (+11), Richard Roberts=11 (+1), Matthew Roberts=2 (+1)
26th The Fells Have Eyes (Flightless Bird) - 62 points (+19), subs made:2
Ben Mounsey=2 (+1), Jon Wright=25 (+1), Lauren Jeska=34 (+17), Morgan Donnelly=0, ex: Zanthe Wray=1
27th Gazelle's Belles II (Fellgazelle) - 47 points (+5)
Mark Roberts=19 (+4), Holly Williamson=16 (+1), Mike Robinson=10, James Kevan=2
28th Baker's Dozen (Green Flash) - 40 points (+0), subs made:2
Karen Davison=12, Nicky Spinks=26, Es Tresidder=0, Jon Coe=2
29th Public Image Limited (Spring Heeled Jack) - 37 points (+2)
Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Gary Devine=1, Nicola Davies=0, Alex Whittem=8 (+1)
30th Ewans Runners (Tallpaul) - 34 points (+2), subs made:2
Nicky Spinks=0, Graham Pearce=28 (+1), Jon Morgan=0, Matthew Hulley=4 (+1), ex: Zanthe Wray=1, Es Tressider=1
31st Penguin's Barrels (Penguin) - 21 points (+7), subs made:1
John Heneghan=7 (+7), Kirstin Bailey=13, Jo Buckley=0, Andy Fleet=1
Results from the 2nd round of the cup:
CV Navigation Team (74) - beat - Marrows Muppets (23)
DCL's Demons (53) - beat - Neckbolters (33)
Dogz-Gonadz (37 or 56) - beat - Tiggers Brown Vests (34)
Fab Four (62) - beat - Dominion's Demon Descenders (26)
Footloose Four (47) - beat - No L-Plates (19)
Groovy Times (79) - beat - Fantasy Flipflops (46)
Los Burros (36) - beat - Dux's Destroyers (17)
NB's Hells Fells (16) - beat - 4 sheets to the wind (10)
Pigtails Plodders (66) - beat - The Fells Have Eyes (19)
Pint o'Pride (62) - beat - Whooosh!! (17)
Superstars (72) - beat - Fowlers Fantastic Four (66)
The Also Rans (56) - beat - BGS's Blinders (24)
The Kinky Foursome (65) - beat - Go Go Gadget (52)
The World is full of Smelly Feet (31) - beat - Ewans Runners (24)
Replay:
Team Tomcee 2010 (21) - draw - Better Late than Never (21)
Forum Floosies' Favourite Fellsters 2010 (43) - vs - Team Tup (42 or 61)
These replays will take place at Wasdale, 10th July. Select a new team for the replay.
Draw for the 3rd round (which will take place at Holme Moss, 18th July):
CV Navigation Team vs. [Team Tomcee 2010 or Better Late than Never]
Dogz-Gonadz vs. Groovy Times
Fab Four vs. The World is full of Smelly Feet
[Forum Floosies' Favourite Fellsters 2010 or Team Tup] vs. DCL's Demons
Los Burros vs. Pigtails Plodders
NB's Hells Fells vs. Pint o'Pride
The Also Rans vs. Footloose Four
The Kinky Foursome vs. Superstars
No change to the rules: post your team for this round of the cup before the start of the race. ;)
Bill, thanks as ever for organising this!
The reason I changed my team late on Saturday was that the group of forumites who choose the team I was against picked the same guest runners as I had. As they have extra pintage anyway from being in a higher league it made it more or less impossible for me to win irrespective of who I chose. For regular league fixtures this is obviously not a problem but for one-off cup ties it makes the virtual fell-side even steeper for sides from lower leagues. I'm not sure if there's anything that can be done about this, or even a desire to, but it's perhaps something to think about :)
Hi DT,Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Yes, teams from a higher league should win, because they've had more pints to choose their original team. But (much like a sports cup) that's part of the attraction - it makes it all the more rewarding when you knock out a team from a higher league than you. In fact last year's cup winners, Go Go Gadget, were in the Kaliber league at the time.
When I set it up I knew that one tactic would be, if you were confident in your 2 league team runners, to select the same guests as your opponent. The counter-tactic would be not to reveal your team until late - make your opponent blink first. And that's also why I've said that you can change team as often as you like before the final deadline. You could set up a bluff team, your opponent could select the same guest runners, and then you could change your entire team at the last moment.
Bad Magners appeared to select an entire bluff league team this year... and then kept with it! I'm not sure if that was a double-bluff, or not. ;)
Using the start of the race as the deadline always seemed like the most fun - the starters gun would signal final bets, and it allowed the excitement of really late changes. But the dual starts at Sedbergh were a complication! For future reference: the first start of any race with multiple starts will be the deadline.
And I've never had any texts or other team entry method from the start field of a race - nor would I accept any. Teams must be posted on this thread to count.
But the bottom line is - I hope you enjoy it. I enjoy setting it up and running it. If this ever became serious it would be the death-knell for the competition. :o
Cheers, Bill
PS: I specifically selected a team that would be strong in the cup this year - the 2 best runners I could, who I would hope to select in each cup round, and two 1 pinters. Though in the end it hasn't worked out that I've selected those 2 runners in the cup! :rolleyes:
I enjoy it immensly and I have no real interest or connection with Championship races. Thanks again and keep up the good work! :cool:
I think this was a really good resolution bill and very fair - you read my tactics exactly - My cup team for sedbergh from day one was always lloyd, lauren, pippa and ian holmes - this team would have beaten the team tup hands down -but i held off posting as i wanted to see what derby's team was - however when derby posted his team - i realised our two lloyds would cancel each other out,pippa and ian could score more or less the same as rob hope and rob jebb but my lauren would beat his mike robinson. i spent all friday evening deliberating over this - (aided by my pre race curry and pints of lal tufan) and thought what if ian doesnt turn up............so i did the dishonest thing and decided to match derby's team exactly leaving the race of two mikes (fanning and robinson) to decide it for us. I was pretty sure mike F would beat mike r - however had mike r had been at the race he too would have scored the same one solitary point that mike f scored - simply for turning up so it would have been a draw! so a late change by derby unmatched by me left me stumped! i felt gazumped - but realised it was just a taste of my own medicine and serves me right for trying to play dirty! so roll on wasdale where i am going to beat derby tup's team fair and square! no offence derby!!!
The second I saw your team Another Team, I knew what you'd done and why. I then noticed that Inov-8 Insider had dropped Rob Jebb and guessed he had some pre-race info so followed suit. I suspect all I've done is delay the inevitable but you never know. I'll have more important things on my mind leading up to Wasdale anyway ;)