"enjoyed IGDV a lot".
The sleeve notes are a gas.
There was a memorable Simpsons episode in which the song featured. At a funeral IIRC.
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"enjoyed IGDV a lot".
The sleeve notes are a gas.
There was a memorable Simpsons episode in which the song featured. At a funeral IIRC.
Or perhaps just being a pratt. (I thought I'd say it before someone else did.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
Perhaps I should also clarify that Randy Newman did not attack people of diminutive stature. His song Short People, was intended "to poke fun at people who are short-tempered and small-minded, which is quite the opposite of the literal meaning. A lot of people didn't get the joke and thought of Newman as a bigot. Many radio stations refused to play it."
https://www.songfacts.com/facts/rand...as%20a%20bigot.
#allheightsmatter
Watch it and find out. He's a very reasonable, measured bloke with a wealth of experience. He's not on there as a politicised person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
One of the issues he faces in his specialist field is that the referrals for cancer have been half the normal limits and another thing he says is that where it has started to get back on track it is in such as breast cancer where they can be COVID secure and still make the checks necessary, which isn't quite so easy for some forms.
Even where they are now handling referrals, the are handling less cases because of the Covid procedures they need to follow, so they are almost certainly still getting further behind at the moment in terms of handling cancer referrals and moving those that need it on to treatment.
Around 1,000 day normally get a referral for cancer screening which I assume is an England figure although it could be UK wide. We are over 150 days now, so somewhere around 75000 people haven't been screened that would have been in a normal year.
This is a fun bit of conspiracy theorising if it didn’t have a little suggestion of truth, we are being softened up for the colossal drop in living standards that inevitably has to come in the West.
https://off-guardian.org/2020/09/06/...ze-it-and-why/
Brilliant :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Mole
Prof Sikora has been a shining light of relative positiveness over the whole period of covid and I like him a lot. Without trying to misrepresent him (and without being arsed to watch an hour long video with him in :)) from what I've seen (on twitter) he's been more critical of some of the recent localised lockdowns and meeting up rules than perhaps the original lockdown itself, which was as much as anything triggered due to the worry of the NHS being overwhelmed. And of course he has, as a cancer specialist, been championing the importance of avoiding increased cancer deaths in the cause of minimising covid deaths - at the minute we're averaging 5 covid deaths per day whilst the equivalent 'normal' cancer death rate is something like 450 per day!!!
That said he is always reminding everyone that we (including him) still don't know enough about covid and that caution and patience is needed. He's also not the world's greatest fan of the NHS either...
Interesting graphic.
Attachment 8811
to counter the one the Dept of Health put out yesterday that makes it look like current cases are at the same level as in April and has led to headlines such as
"Covid infection rate in Croydon hits highest level since May"
https://insidecroydon.com/2020/09/09...vel-since-may/
which is completely misleading, I'd even go as far as to say criminal.
THe first graph, based on backwards crunching the numbers, is quite probably correct. March and April there could've been c 100,000 real new cases a day - only hospitals were testing (after the tests nationally spluttered to a grinding halt) and the reported figures were miles out at c 6,000 new cases a day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
That said, the sheer number early doors does demonstrate just how out of hand covid can get if given a completely free reign. More proof if any is needed that the current system of social distancing, mask wearing and safety measures in public hubs and family meet ups is still the best way to go
One of my nurse friends has just had a patient who was scheduled in at a local test centre on Monday. They failed to show.
Today they received a positive test result.
Work that one out.
What don't kill yer,
Makes yer stronger.
A week ago we were having a beer in our local pub and listening to the group of people (non locals but Welsh) behind us, "When I go to Wetherspoons I put down any name and address and copy down a phone number from the list above". I wonder how common this is?
I presume it helps add to the failure rate of trace and test figures if there is any follow-up from that pub? Plenty of clever dicks about.
Name and phone number is common around these parts
Pubs have to ask for them here in Wales, we all sign in religiously at our local and wouldn't be served if we didn't. But if punters are entering false names and numbers at pubs it strikes me as being 100% prattish, but then lockdowns are starting again in S.Wales so I hope they don't whinge if it is their community. But they will.
I wouldn't put my address either.
Name and number but don't let on where yer live.
GDPR
I went for a meal at the White Lion in Bala a few weeks ago. They had some app that I was supposed to download for the test-and-trace, but there was some problem getting it on my phone, and while the receptionist was looking for someone to sort it out, someone else showed me to a table. I had my meal and left, and that was it.Quote:
Originally Posted by molehill
Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
Sounds world beating.
Local near me has you text your surname to their mobile. Good idea and even if you put a false name, they have your mobile number.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
The R number is back.
Keep em guessing with loads of different statistics.
Throw in a few graphics and they'll do as there told.
Don't know where the 1.7 comes from Mike. It's been given as 1.1 - 1.3 and I wouldn't mind seeing their maths.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
The evidence, for those who are incapable of reading tweets in full.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhpY76bX...pg&name=medium
also:
"Our early data, as we exited lockdown, demonstrate the high level of effectiveness of stringent social distancing in reducing transmission of the virus, with prevalence rates decreasing by 75% over a 3 month period to early August. However, since then prevalence has increased, perhaps reflecting holiday travel, return to work, or a more general increase in the number and transmission potential of social interactions. While in England there has yet to be notable increases in hospitalisations or deaths associated with the resurgence in infection, this is not the case in other European countries, such as France and Spain, where hospitalisations are increasing substantially".
Don't worry about a thing, cause every little thing gunner be alright.
I think he's definitely a worrier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
I know it's only MSM but the rate seems to be a little lower than 1.7
https://metro.co.uk/2020/09/11/r-rat...s-uk-13257703/
Hey but probably Imperial is the way to go - they have such a good track record.
How are you doing Trev? A nice little Rioja tonight for me. Out of Single Malt at the moment. I tried some Suntory recently which isn't a malt or single. It hasn't the complexity of Scotch, but it certainly has a magical clarity. I was quite impressed. Reminded me of the Penderyn I had a while back.
I've never read any part of a tweet, never mind one in full!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave_Mole
You're not the one asking for the maths, when it's right in front of you....then ignoring it. Because, apparemtly, Metro is a better source of information than the "largest, most significant piece of research looking at how the virus is spreading across the country" carried out by a team of scientists, clinicians and researchers at Imperial College London, Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust and Ipsos MORI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Llani Boy
Garbage in Garbage out.
Imperial have form.
There are huge question marks over the accuracy of the PCR tests.
The calculation and use of R is problematic the later in to a pandemic ut is as small pockets distort.
There are other scientific opinions out there such as this that Professor Heneghan as recommended.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvFhIFzaac
yet here you are, quibbling about it.Quote:
The calculation and use of R is problematic the later in to a pandemic ut is as small pockets distort.
If you bother to read the report you'll see this:
". A throat and noseswab is estimated to have 70% to 80% sensitivity, so we are likely to have underestimated true prevalence, although, this would not be expected to have affected trendanalysis or estimation of the R value"
In the days when I used to live in Suffolk but travelled to The Lakes a couple of times a month I did a lot of motorway driving. I quickly learnt that sticking to the speed limit was far more relaxing - and presumably safer - than trying to do the journey quickly. And of course going slower than 70 if dark/foggy/wet/very busy. So many speeding drivers were braking hard so often in front of me - particularly when they saw - or thought they saw - a police vehicle.
The response to Covid 19 measures is similar - so many comments on social media about how to get away with breaking the rules - false names/contact details in pubs, pretending you are in separate groups rather than together, less than 2 metre distancing, pretending you have a valid reason for not masking, childish risk assessments - it should be the other way around - how can we be as safe as possible - and most safety measures are free.
Cases going up, hospital admissions going up, no-time-limit deaths going up - presumably the Government will wait until the pressure on NHS beds becomes headline news again before taking more appropriate measures. Winter will be fun. Herd immunity is obviously still the aim. But how many do we lose achieving it?
As to the R number - anything above 1 is too high. Even 1 just keeps us where we are.
Maybe time to re-address your social media use Mike? Where do you see these comments? Do you actually follow the people who make them?
It's a bit like carrying safety kit in fell running - you can be blase; but one "I could die up here" experience concentrates the mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
For six years I drove from north Leeds to south London every week. My car did 30,000+ miles a year. You never forget your first high speed motorway crash - assuming you survive.
A good article: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...winter/616204/
That’s really good, thanks 😊Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
we have debated the R number calculation before and how it can be misleading and like DT I would urge you to audit your social media activity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I largely see people like me who are sceptical and frustrated, but nevertheless still abide by the regulations.
you literally just linked to a video which says that lockdown and facemasks had "no impact" on the spread of C-19. That's not scepticism. It's actually encouraging people not to wear them. One of the blogs you linked to earlier had "advice" about how to avoid wearing masks and provided a graphic to print out which claimed exemption.Quote:
sceptical and frustrated, but nevertheless still abide by the regulations
You also seem quite keen in oncologist Karol Sikora. Oncologist. Not viriologist. He's also described the NHS as "the last bastion of Communism".
You don't seem very keen on Imperial. But Sikora has described himself as "...professor of oncology at Imperial College"....but, hang on, he wasn't!! In fact Imperial took legal action to stop him describing himself as such.
But your "sceptisism" leads you to reject the largest study so far into infection rates, because of supposed "huge problems" with the tests. Which are accounted for in the methodology.
got it bad haven't you :D
I can't recall who, but my understanding of trolling was called in to question recently, but I certainly see an intent to provoke on your part Dave.
It seems you cannot leave any post of mine alone. You have to comment and of course every comment isn't just a counter comment, but it is drizzled with disdain, maybe even hatred.
It used to be Oracle who took the brunt of your approach and whilst I took a little flack, it was small beer in comparison. Without Oracle it seems you have moved on to target me.
I try my best not to rise to it, but unfortunately I get drawn in as a result of your relentless responses that I often feel can't go without a reply.
Post what you want. From now on, I will not respond.
Have a good weekend.