Bloody Germans! And to think we were that close to signing Robben before Chelsea paid him off:p
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Bloody Germans! And to think we were that close to signing Robben before Chelsea paid him off:p
I'm a big Arsene fan (Arsene knows!!) but quoting him as saying he is gracious in defeat is not his most common trait, he (as all managers should be is lousy in defeat) and has regularly blamed x, y or z for arsenal losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
Top managers hate losing, for once Wenger accepted it and said so, even he couldn't be blind to Messi's genius last night.
So very very happy :)
Show me someone who is gracious in defeat and I'll show you a loser
Germans crush helpless United - WW1 & 2 basically overturned :D
You have to hold your hands up and say Bayern deserved that win, regardless of the events in the match, after Utd robbed them in 99, I hope they go on to lift the cup, but thats not likely with the sizzling Barca in! :)
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Originally Posted by ukhursty
It's been a brilliant week for Mancunian football ;)
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Wonder whether he will get punished by UEFA for insulting the German nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
Of course Man Utd players have never been known to rush towards the referee.
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Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
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Typical Germans :eek:
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
That was the incident I had in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Thats a fair bit of money from this years repayments just gone down the drain.....
Gracious in defeat is one thing. Blaming your own shortcomings on the actions of others is probably more accurate in this instance. Man Utd let a 2 goal lead slip and didn't play well enough over the two legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
If I were to show you someone to highlight this point, it would be Brian Clough. He didn't whinge about refereeing decisions. He instilled in his players that the outcome of the game was in their hands. This approach has come through a few other managers who learnt under Brian Clough, such as Martin O'Neil and (for a while) Stuart Pearce.
Ferguson criticising opposition players for trying to influence the referee is pretty funny. Pot... kettle... ;)
I think fergusson was right in his comments about a team of international footballers being "typical germans" - I was in town yesterday lunchtime and their fans were clearly guilty of placing towels on all the sun loungers outside Sinclairs, murdering millions of jews and invading poland........ give that chap a knighthood! :eek:
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Just going a little off the current thread, I think that the earlier than expected exit of the English teams may well have an added benefit for us in the World Cup.
That's less fixtures now for quite a few key players, and perhaps a little end of season break before the squad gets together.
The typical Germans comment was a little strange given that the club may be German, but like most teams, the players were multi-national.
Mrs WP commented in the first half (and credit to her for this!) that Ferguson should take Raphael off after he had been yellow carded - as he was clearly impetuous, and that Munich may well now work on this and Man Utd could easily be down to 10.
I tend to agree - Ferguson could have brought O'Shea on at half time.
Finally though, I do think it ironic that Raphael was yellow carded for a trip, that was a reaction to him being trippped himself (and nothing given).
Ribery did have his arm pulled a little, but was in front, had control, but chose to retaliate - almost stopping and elbowing Raphael.
Ribery escaped any punishment for his retaliation, and managed to have a player sent off as well.
Cynical pehaviour like this takes place in football all the time though and needs to be resolved throughout and it is no good Ferguson, Wenger or anyone trying to claim the moral ground as all teams are guilty.
Come on Benfica!:D
They're still a loser though ;) Your example with Clough was a good one - you have to make sure you win the games which Utd didn't in this case. Let's not forget that Bayern only won on a technicality (away goals) over the two legs so if Utd aren't up to scratch then neither are BayernQuote:
Originally Posted by noel
Will you be at Newlands tomorrow? I will bring a few straws that you can clutch!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
Come on Fulham!!!:D
Goal after 24 seconds:D
(Correction: 21 seconds)
As things stand we could end up with Fulham being the last English club in Europe!
Their manager should have been Manager of the Season couple of years agoQuote:
Originally Posted by dominion
Yep, bring them with you ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop
'tis true though!
Brilliant. You have to search back a decade ago.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
All teams surround the ref.
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Fergie had a rant, so what, come on everyone has them.
I think he was annoyed because we played so well, and threw it away by silly errors. Carrick's defending was awful. Rafael, young lad, naieve mistake. Kids do that, but you don't hang them up for it, he'll learn. He had a cracking game. He's got a firey side and it got the better of him, he'll learn to control it better. I just think he wanted to last out but knew the players had given it a good go and lashed out at the Germans. Yes he's a bad loser, most successful managers are.
I think we were unlucky. Class finish by Robben (which was fully admired by Fergie), but otherwise I thought we were the better team for most of the two ties.
Bottom line is they punished our mistakes, in Munich and at OT.
Not as far as you for that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I thought that'd get a few... but because Fergi'es been here so long people forget how long ago that was. They also Forget that Fergie wasn't happy about that and generally we've been as well behaved as any other team since on that front. People single the big teams out becasue they watch football on TV and the big 4 dominate MOTD normally.
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Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
That one was before cameras were invented They used speed sketchers to capture the excitment;):DQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Green with envy
Yellow with fear
Watching their title disappear
:D
I can almost smell their fear with Saturday approaching.
I'm torn between wanting a Carlos hat-rick and a 5- 0 drubbing......or for the game to head into injury time and with it at 0- 0 Carlos smashing one in to make it 1-0 during a mysterious 6th minute of bacon time.:cool:
Haven't we been here before Alex is God? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
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Originally Posted by TheHeathens
We're in the best position and run of form that we've enjoyed in many a year with something to fight for against a United at possibly their lowest ebb since about 2005 with nothing left to fight for.
You can't be looking forward to it at all :eek:
Come on Danbert - pull the other one. You've already had your fingers burnt this season, don't set yourself up for the fall once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Are you two going to have another forfeit on the game?
That's very kind of you TH. Could this apparent kindness actually show that you're slightly more worried to enter into a similar arrangement given your teams' recent runs of form?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
Stir, stir ;)
kick john terry out of the england squad. shagging your mates kids mother is one thing but the deliberate attempt to knobble a england team mate is a step too far. being at the game on saturday his tackle on milner looked a red card to everyone except the ref but seeing the replay on tv yesterday and seeing the intent and severity of the attack and feigning injury to try and get away with it i would much prefer not to be in the world cup than having my country represented by a scum thug b*@~$ard like terry.p.s. he's playing crap anyway
Where the f*ck have you been!? You lost our little avatar and forum name bet - have you been hiding away from the punishment?Quote:
Originally Posted by fellboy
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Originally Posted by fellboy
I'm more worried if ferdinand doesn't play,he's awful at the moment!!
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Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
Got to be honest - I'm never confident regarding derbies but this is the first time I've had rag mates texting me telling me that THEY are dreading the derby!:cool:
Green with envy
Yellow with fear
Red for the debt that won't disappear :eek:
You could put a serious nail in the coffin DanbertQuote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
No champions league
No cup (Leeds)
Win in the derby No Premiership.
What will they use to repay the loan Debt?
Worrying times for Fergie.
2010-11 No Rooney??????
I agree Ian.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Looks like their hopes are on the wane.
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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Exactly Ian - This is their Cup Final.
Their season is already over.
They have nothing to play for except trying to dent our top-4 hopes.
Bitter Gays (Green and Yellows) :D
[QUOTE=TheHeathens;324217]Where the f*ck have you been!? You lost our little avatar and forum name bet - have you been hiding away from the punishment?
can't see how you can change your forum name but i did change my avatar as you can see.a reminder of when villa joined that elite group of four english teams to have reached the pinacle of club football and became champions of europe.a time when you actually had to be champions of your own league just to be in it.