Think i'm marshalling at Swirls........if you bring me a pie, i'll say nowt :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom R
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Think i'm marshalling at Swirls........if you bring me a pie, i'll say nowt :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom R
I'm coming over from Durham on Friday night. I just hope the roads will be clear!
And what type of pie would you like mr bother. Order early to avoid disapointment :-) this is the only race I know were the runners feed the checkpointers :-) hoping the roads are clear too for the fri drive. The forcast has been wrong before so that's thurs nights worry ,
The latest from MWIS makes much better reading:
Snow showers will continue on Thursday, but the threat of stormy conditions overnight is now very low.
Cold with snow showers on Friday and Saturday, but away from N Scotland and N Wales generally few showers and also bright sunshine. It will become much less windy
I'll stop reading forecasts now that I've seen one I like :D
This has to be the way forward, seems a much better plan :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by old un
With regard to weather......................I never think or worry about it till the day, just prepare for the worst and anything better is a bonus :D
I like bad weather - its the only time I can maybe catch up with some of the stickinsects and being fat is a bonus (weight and insulation!) bring on the snow, the wind, and the pies!!!! :thumbup:
Well whether the weathers good or bad, it beats being dragged round the shops Christmas shopping!!!!:thumbup:
Is anyone staying at Burton Travelodge friday night?
Part of the fell-top assessor's report at http://www.lakedistrictweatherline.co.uk/
The fell top assessor was unable to reach the summit
today due to the strong gusting winds. More fresh snow is
falling on the fells today, much of it in the form of
graupel which will make the snowpack very unstable. This
is being blown by the strong westerlies onto east facing
slopes and gullies and there is a considerable build-up
of loose snow on the eastern side of the Helvellyn range.
Above 500m, around 20cm of snow and ice is lying on
footpaths, but the coverage varies considerably due to
the scouring of the wind. The snow depth reaches up to
100cm where drifting has occurred.
On a couple of events this year I had a risk assesment sent with number, bet one for this race would make good reading ? The madder the better for me :-)
The forecast for Friday and Saturday is looking much better now. The intense low pressure is passing much further to the south. No hurricane this time.
Ssshhh!
sorry :o
Right on cue, the Met office have just released a weather warning for NW England on Saturday.
Luckily it's just for icy roads :)
so whos carrying Nee bothers pie to swirl then?
I'm staying over at Penrith Travelodge with another runner (seperate beds) planning to start running / crawling through deep snow at about 8am
We're staying at the Mardale Inn in Bampton, going for a 7am start as it'll be touch and go whether I can fo fast enough to make the cutoff!
MWIS latest:
Northwest or northerly 30 to 40mph gusts 45 to perhaps 60mph.
Very likely only isolated, if any snow flurries. But small risk of widespread showers, most likely southwestern fells.
The fells largely cloud free, with fragments on higher fells only occasionally
Bright sun, probably widespread. The air very clear indeed, but visibility very poor in snow and cloud.
Freezing level more or less valley level, with terrain more or less frozen. -3 at 750m
http://mwis.org.uk/ld.php?fdate=111217
Careful you don't get to Patterdale before the check opens at 10am... I reckon it's the easiest 10 miles of the route and three hours is a long time to allow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Toreador
I thought it was 13 miles (on the basis that the route is 38 and the cutoff is 25)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
<wanders off to measure the map>
Hmm, according to Bing, it's just under 10 miles to Patterdale, and the whole route is about 35.5 miles.
I guess if we arrive early we can buy some pies from the shop :)
My recce of Askham to Patterdale and back gave 32k (20 miles) and the Patterdale loop 28km making 60k altogether, so a tad over 37 miles. Garmin info for Askham-Patterdale:Quote:
Originally Posted by Toreador
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/121455125
It will be a cold wait too. Dry weathers a blessing if it keeps to it. Were stopping at clifton and looking at an 8ish start and a steady plod and a natter. 10m in 3hr is a possibility if its deep powder snow. In keswick fri afternoon for a wander round and bag of chips too
Definitely, but if it's bad enough for 3 hours, then 12 hours for the whole thing is looking very tough! It's got to be the quickest quarter of the route (just a smidge more than). The worst sections, I reckon, will be up to and down from Sticks Pass and Grisedale Tarn, so time will almost certainly be lost there. If the outward journey to Patterdale takes three hours, I guess it's safe to assume the return journey to Askham will take more (more knackered and more climb).Quote:
Originally Posted by old un
I think you're right there hank. If we go at 8am toreador may have ploughed a route through for us :-)
Then when you've overtaken you can do the same for us up to Grisedale Tarn :)
Some interesting looking conditions:
http://mark-mountainjourneys.blogspo...red-fells.html
i'd be happy to toreador,although overtaking isnt a word often used with me :w00t:
I'm now distinctly dissapointed I didnt go for this!! :( Hope you all have fun tho!! I'll think of you'll while I'm working the over-time!
The main question I've got now is what to wear on my feet. They (the feet) are telling me they've had about enough of my Mudclaws for the time being, so I'd rather wear Roclites, with my Microspikes in case of snow or ice. But... that would be daft if there's a lot of snow cover, as Mudclaws would be faster. So, if it's only the 2 passes that have snow, I think I'll go for the Roclites, but if there's more general snow cover I'll wear my Mudclaws & take the pain. So how low down is the snow?
About 500m at the moment with a few showers forecast to lower levels in the next 48 hours, but not a significant amount. I think it'll be the upper sections of Sticks Gill east and west, the climb up from Dunmail and the upper section of the descent to Grisedale that will be under snow. That said, I'm Mudclaws all the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
The met office are still talking about a low risk of heavy snow for the Lakes tonight (depends on which direction to low pressure goes).
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...-and-unsettled
I'll be wearing Mudclaws as they're the only ones with a low enough heel to stop my Achilles becoming tender after such a long run.
And I think we're sticking with a 7am start. Even if the going is good it'll force me to take things easy for the first 10 miles - I find it hard to stop myself going too quickly at the beginning of a race, which I then regret at the end :)
The snow from last week has turned to neve now covered by fresh deep powder in places but where the neve is uncovered microspikes will be handy
I'm pondering the same dilema ? Mudclaws and sealskinz or roclites and wool sock ? There seems a bit of rd on the map (I havent been on a lot of the route ) probably use roclites as not used to running that far in mudclaws. Although both will get a ride to askham. Do kathoolas work ok on mudclaws ? as I'm guessing
Ice may play a part if the cold forcast is right .
There's a good couple of miles of road up Boredale, though there's enough grass on the sides to run on for quite a bit of the way. And, yep, Microspikes are fine on Mudclaws.Quote:
Originally Posted by old un
Your inbox is full Hank
Right, I've emptied a few out now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrs Stagger
Thanks for info hank . Maybe rethink mudclaws then ?
Unfortunately I can't run this race on Saturday having been diagnosed with pericarditis and being told to completely rest for at least 2 weeks. The consultant is also a runner and I was hoping she would come up with some miracle cure in time but sadly not.
It looks as though it will be a great race and I'm looking forward to reading all the reports.
Hope you all have a really great (and safe) run.
Cheers
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Originally Posted by Richard36
Unlucky Richard... hope the injury clears up ok. I missed last year with a torn calf muscle.
How do you sleep at night??Quote:
Originally Posted by Splatcher
Very well thanks, as I'm a househusband (or retired, depending on how you look at it), & don't have a guilty conscience about anything much at the moment. And you?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkL
Just have to wait n see whta the weather does re start time and what to wear. I think i might go for the rocklites as they match my top. The mud claws really clash :-)
If you do get to Patterdale before 10 you will have to hang around or be disqualified Could be a chilly wait?
Well I'm unlikely to start before 8 so no chance of getting to Patterdale before 10. I'll have to get up at about 5 anyway, which I'm not exactly looking forward to. On the other hand the run should be epic. In general I mean, not my own performance!