Just tried to establish exactly what system I voted under!!....I've no idea, and if I did have an idea I'm not sure I would entirely understand it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electio...#Voting_system
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Just tried to establish exactly what system I voted under!!....I've no idea, and if I did have an idea I'm not sure I would entirely understand it!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electio...#Voting_system
We were having this debate about the BNP 5 years ago. Where are they now?
http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...light=thatcher
Absolutely. I think it's up to sensible right-wing people to make it clear that this isn't the case.
In the same way that it's hard to label people's views in two words, UKIP voters aren't all the same. Some will be people who see the power of Europe becoming too great. There will be some libertarian anti-federalists. Some will be anti-EU ex-conservative voters who see this as a defining policy. There will also be some people who don't want foreigners doing jobs that they believe people from the UK could and should be trained to do. Some are protest voters, and some (probably a very small proportion) are racists who see this as a defining policy.
To paint them all as being like the very small minority who would support overtly racist laws is like painting labour voters as supporting renationalisation of all industry.
Politicians. Each and every one of them a waste of space, no matter what party.
I now agree with Danbert;)
Because the BNP were rightly classed as racist thugs, beyond the bounds of acceptableness by the whole forum nobody needed challenging.
People have however expressed much support for Ukip, who are just a watered down 'more acceptable face' of the BNP and that is dangerous and needs challenging.
Danbert, are you the same Danbert (from Middleton) on the Man Utd forums: http://www.utdforum.com/forum/member.php?u=1117
The one that lives in Middleton, hates FC Utd and the new ground, proclaims Harlem Spirit as the best band ever (http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/showt...=harlem+spirit) and posted this exact post back in 2009?
Because you've got some serious explaining of these posts:
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...00#post1551200
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...34#post1552934Quote:
Surely though shouting down 1 million members of the populace who voted BNP as f**king scum isn't the answer.
Clearly the election of the BNP should now ensure the beginning of an honest debate on issues such as the failure of multi-culturalism, unwanted mass immigration, political correctness, the elevation of special interest groups, and the politicisation of the police, etc,
The days of Just shouting someone down as "racist scum" because he/she tries to talk about these issues just isn't good enough anymore is it?
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...18#post1553018Quote:
Your friends at work are c**k-ends, they are acting in the same manner as the Nazi's did in Germany in the 1930's with their attempts to violently stop a perfectly legal political party holding a press conference.
The majority of the British electorate will just see them as hypocrites, and the BNP will be stronger and more popular because of their actions today.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...36#post1936636Quote:
Agreed, but i don't like all this "smash the BNP" and "smash" anyone else you disagree with either.
Ironically of course the protestors would mainly be silly middle class students going through their rebellious phase before settling down to pay off a mortgage and earn money in the professions,
It seemed to me that if one of them had actually swung a punch at Griffin, he'd have decked them easily as i've just read that he is boxing Blue from Cambridge.
I guess the difference, unlike Prescott, would have been that he'd have been charged and "Violent BNP Leader Attacks Protestor" would have been the following day's headlines.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...36#post1933236Quote:
I have no problem with anybody from anywhere as long as they integrate ..... how could i have? http://www.utdforum.com/forum/images...xtras/loco.gif
My problem is with those who come here and are determinedly separatist.
Oh and I also have a problem with white, suburban, middle class, liberal, lefty clueless twats like borsuk.....who..... if they had to live with the in-your-face Islamism of the ghettos would soon have a quick re-think about their cherished concept of multi-culturalism. http://www.utdforum.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif
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That's utter balls from a know nothing.
Come back when you have actually lived in an English community where the wearing of the burka is the norm and mosques with minarets dominate your skyline. I have, and I can categorically state that a large proportion of Muslims are failing to integrate.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...30#post1931330
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My views on the BNP .........
1.) They seem to combine traditional left-wing anti-capitalist and anti-globalist economic policies which i agree with
2.) They have an uncompromising stance on law and order which i agree with
3.) They seem to be the only party who openly state that they are in opposition to mass immigration which i also agree with.
4. ) Nick Griffin is not a plausible character - his performance on Question Time was pitiful - and he carries to much racist baggage to ever be plausible.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...75#post1843575
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Exactly mate.....It's f**kin hilarious that the middle class, liberal, left can support a religion that is known to advocate, anti-democratic, homophobic, misogynistic and outright fascist principles.
Orwellian doublethink at its best.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...53#post1720153
The list goes on and on.....Quote:
I think there are a lot mis-informed people on here.
I'm definitely not a rascist but I will be protesting against Radical Islam, and Sharia Law in Manchester on Saturday afternoon myself.
To be honest I've always found that it's the ''Unite against Fascists" who are the fascists.http://www.utdforum.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.gif
Not me Heathens, though I do hate FC and loved Harlem Spirit back in the day. I wouldn't be seen dead on a United forum, though i think i do know who the poster is.
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119311
Fairly suspicious! Those exact same posts were made within 4 minutes of each other on different forums.Quote:
......He was of the opinion that the BNP and voters of are c**ts. When asked why, he said that they are racists and their politics don't count for shit.
I challenged him by reminding him of the flavour of the month Diversity Policy that all councils push if you go for a job there, and that no-one should be castigated for political , religious, personal etc beliefs, to which he replied that 'It doesn't count for those shites.'
Pushing the issue, I asked about the voting and was told that the people who voted for BNP should 'Have been told to vote Labour because lalalalalalalab*****b*****blah, as BNP are all scum'.
Asked about the democratic right to vote that this country is proud to hold, he informed me that 'If anyone votes BNP, they do not deserve to live in a Democracy. They should be thrown out. If people do not listen to us and waste their vote, they should be told how to vote.'
When I reminded him that this is how facism starts, he threw a hissyfit and buggered off.
Politicians. Each and every one of them a waste of space, no matter what party. http://www.utdforum.com/forum/images/smilies/mad.gif
EDIT :
http://www.utdforum.com/forum/showth...88#post1500488
04-05-2009, 02:04 PM
Danbert Nocurry http://www.utdforum.com/forum/images/icons/icon1.gif
I'm 44 years old (45 tomorrow) and that was the best gig i've ever been to. http://www.utdforum.com/forum/images/smilies/cool.gif
Quick look at Danbert's profile reveals his DOB is 05/05/1964.
WTF Danbert? I'm actually disappointed.
Is Danbert another figment of Breezy imagination??
Is Danbert a member of the FRA committee???
is danbert a true red?????????????????????
It's entirely plausable that within a 5 year period a person's views can change dramatically.
The prosecution rests m'lud.
TH, you should change your avatar:
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It's like at the end of a Scooby Doo episode... Danbert's multicultural working class hero mask has been ripped off to reveal the horrific truth that he is in fact a BNP sympathiser.
And he'd have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for that pesky Heathens.
Dan, you don't have to respond to this because i know you don't want to, i'm not awaiting a reply.
If my memory serves me correctly this is the third time on this thread we've seen UKIP voting people described as having been 'seduced' or 'taken in' by the party; in fact it's becoming a bit of a chestnut.
Oh dear, Danbert.
Just done the test and closest to me is Mahmoud Abbas (President of Palestine) 1 left of centre & 3 up authoritarian
So I still think I voted correctly.
Has Danbert gone MIA?
I have The Heathens down already for the end of year Awards.
Forum Sleuth of the year :D