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The reserve list for the Skyline race is here.
When places become available, people will be contacted in the order they are on the reserve list.
Everyone else who has sent an entry should have received confirmation of a place in the race from me, either by email or phone. If you have sent an entry, and you are not on the reserve list and you haven’t had that confirmation get in touch ASAP.
I used to know a cross dresser. He said it was nearly impossible to get clothes in the correct size, in fact some times he was positively furious:DQuote:
Originally Posted by two toenails
Yeah, i religiously carried that map round; never looked at it once!Quote:
I used a black and white map, printed off the CLM web site for the Full Tour of Pendle this one. The contours were impossible to work out but I'm sort of glad because it would have been hell knowing Big End and that other frigging hill just before it were coming up. Ignorance is bliss
It's not that i know pendle that well, it's just that in big races like this (and Edale S), unless you are a front runner, it's much easier just to follow the runner in front. Getting the map out will not help in the slightest (probably get a sprained ankle in the process!), and if you are up the front, then you probably recce'd it anyway.
In theory the map is there to help you if you get lost, and if the organisers want me to have one, if only for their insurance, then i am happy to oblige. Same goes for the mobile phone;)
Even in the biggest races people go astray - 2 years ago my wife was walking on Base Brown on Borrowdale race day, and had to tell a group of runners that they weren't on Brandreth.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyA
Hello one and all,
New to fell running and new to this forum so please be gentle!
Entered the Skyline and thought I'd head up today for a reccy.
Few questions for all the experienced "Skyliners" and locals.
I Started in Edale and cut straight up onto the second half of the loop at Hollins Cross.
Look the Lords Seat right hand turn and found myself following vague trods through knee deep bogs before arriving at Brown Knoll - is this correct?
Couldn't find the racing line beyond Jacob's ladder - I presume that just bypasses the peat bogs and boulders leading to Crowden Clough?
Slight Navigational error the otherside of Grindslow Knoll found me running down towards Grindsbrook Clough. Rather than back track, I thought I'd give the famous "down and up" a go - What is the general consensus on this route? Worth it or just too tough on race day?
Slogged up Ringing Roger in sleet and high winds, then down to the finish, soggy and tired.
I'll try the first part of the loop, in a few weeks time.
Anyway, sorry to ramble - any thoughts on the "racing line" would be much appreciated.
Oh and thanks to the chap I collared jogging up to Grindslow for directions. You said you would be on Brown Knoll on race day - are you on the forum?
Cheers
FM
Hello FM
I recce'd this the other week and had the same problem as you around Jacobs ladder between CP's 9 and 10. I'm not sure whether you should actually go down to Jacobs Ladder? I did when I went but did doubt myself when cutting across to Grindslow Knoll.
I did ask someone from my club who mentioned this 'down and up' route be interesting to see what most people think.
The so called racing line cuts after off the main path after Lords Seat at about SK 108 833 and follows an old wall which provides firmer going. From the Boundary Stone (BS) there is a route to the right of the main path which follows the right hand bank of a large dyke. This is often dryer although if its frozen underfoot direct is probably quicker.
After Brown Knoll you cross the wall / fence and pick up the newish paved path to the top of Jacob Ladder. There is line to right which misses out a bit of the Swines Back path.
Around the Wool Packs there is a line to the left which is more dirdect and avoid losing height but it takes a bit of finding.
After that there are a few direct lines probably the best is from the top of Grindsbrook at SK 106 876 to SK 109 876. This used to be a feint trod but is becoming very well used.
All this and more can be found on the map available at http://www.dpfr.org.uk/skyline/SkylineCourseMap.pdf I don't have any connection with these guys and I haven't used one myself.
I think its a fantastic route, most of the climbing is in the first half but the race really begins at Mam Nick. It is tough, especially in last years conditions. The route is fairly escapable if you know roughly where you are (turn right and go down hill) but the bit over Brown Knoll can feel very remote and inhospitable.
Enjoy.
Fell Monkey
hope you enjoyed the down and up :D
i was the guy 'jogging' up to Grindslow. yes i will be on Brown Knoll, but only briefly as i will be doing the race myself
if your not sure of the route, then recce recce and recce some more. as its not the place you want to be getting lost on the day, or if the weather is as crap as last year.
Yes approach to Brown Knoll is bog after bog, grassy in some places not grassy in others.
Top of Jacobs ladder either follow main path to east of Swinesback or contour up to the right on grassy "trods", saves a bit.
I have taken a left grough around Pyms Chair, rocky base to run on, and picked a grough up with water running into Crowden Clough, other groughs hit the edge between Pyms Chair and Crowden so be aware of the direction you are moving in.
Saves a lot of effort, :D if you get it right.
Did the down and up about 6 years ago, Grindslow Knoll to Ringing Roger, never done it since.
For the he-(wo)men may be an advantage but for me, a decent descender, the downhill was baulked by hidden boulders:eek: under grass and the uphill was just one to many at this time in a 20+ miler.
Does this include free food again at the finish? Last year's was excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyJ