England Mountain Running Teams

While I agree that it's perfectly possible to justify absolutely anything (teeth the colour of daffodils, knows all the words to "The Green Green Grass of Home", eats leeks every Sunday etc etc) I believe that such chicanery usually aims to improve collective team performance.

But, if that is not the intention, then why not include a full set of Welsh ladies in the team?

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Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug

But, if that is not the intention, then why not include a full set of Welsh ladies in the team?

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For the same reason the Welsh football don't select a full set of home born players, like the Welsh rugby team, the NZ rugby, the Austrlian rugby team, the English Cricket team, the Scottish Rugby team, the Scottish football team, the croatian football team, the Polish football team and the German football team. Even the English football team has played players and had managers who were non-english born.

There's the criteria for eligibility, it's the same for most countries. It's one of the few transparent things about the selection process to be honest.

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Originally Posted by RhosgadMath

A Welsh scholar told me his definition of being "Welsh" is someone who can speak the language and I agree with him on that one.

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This means about 80% of Welsh people are not Welsh. :eek:

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Originally Posted by Yorkshire Thug

While I agree that it's perfectly possible to justify absolutely anything (teeth the colour of daffodils, knows all the words to "The Green Green Grass of Home", eats leeks every Sunday etc etc) I believe that such chicanery usually aims to improve collective team performance.

But, if that is not the intention, then why not include a full set of Welsh ladies in the team?

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I think the example of "G.G.G. of Home" is apposite since it was first made popular, at least in the USA, by Porter Wagoner in 1965 and he was born in West Plains, Missouri.

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Originally Posted by IainR

You close to a return? started running yet?

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Hope to do Llyn y Fan next weekend seeing as I've not been selected for Wales! I might be English born but we've got some fine leeks in the garden and I can even speak a bit of Welsh - proud of it as well!!!! Iechyd da!

Read something recently where in North East Wales the nearest maternity unit was in England, so technically speaking all born english, although welsh through and through. Think it was raised with home nations and football, parents live in wales, have child in chester hospital maternity unit, then return and child grows up in wales. What nationality is the child?

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Originally Posted by noel

This means about 80% of Welsh people are not Welsh. :eek:

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Not sure if that figure is completely accurate considering the number of school children there are in Wales who all learn Welsh to an extent.

Regards YT stating we should have 6 Welsh ladies in the squad...are that would be great but you try and find 6 Welsh born senior female fell runners!

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Originally Posted by biara

Read something recently where in North East Wales the nearest maternity unit was in England, so technically speaking all born english, although welsh through and through. Think it was raised with home nations and football, parents live in wales, have child in chester hospital maternity unit, then return and child grows up in wales. What nationality is the child?

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Hmmh, a child born in recent years will be Welsh as they would have been taught Welsh in schools, this also amazingly applies for 'Little England' of Flintshire and Wrexham!

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

...I wasn't in the country when this trial took place and as it happens I have just withdrew from the team...

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so if andi's out who has been moved into the england team now?

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Originally Posted by arthurley

so if andi's out who has been moved into the england team now?

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Not just me out, but another as well from the same Uphill team!