The Don Morrison Memorial Edale Skyline 2014 race.
Sunday 23rd Mar 2014 at 10:30
Pre-entry only via Sportident website from 1st February. Waiting list once limit reached. Substitutions allowed.
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The Don Morrison Memorial Edale Skyline 2014 race.
Sunday 23rd Mar 2014 at 10:30
Pre-entry only via Sportident website from 1st February. Waiting list once limit reached. Substitutions allowed.
Can't find this on the sports ident site. Does anyone know if it's sold out?Quote:
Originally Posted by MickTor
Cheers
Sorry, I'm being a plonker! Entries not open until the 1st. I'll try reading properly next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by nightingale
Won't be listed on the Sportident website until 1 February. Can't enter until then!Quote:
Originally Posted by nightingale
Currently the DPFR page says '* Checkpoints for the "half" will appear later'
Without needing too much info, is it generally based on the first half or the second half of the full skyline?
Looking at the amount of climb, I'd suggest it's the first half.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
Good detective work fozzy. That makes sense.
I might fancy that.
A little advice please. The Edale Skyline is on my 'bucket list'. I note the significant challenge involved, and the requirement to state experience.
This would be my longest (single-day) race, but I think I am there or thereabouts. I usually enter medium distance events
Would people kindly comment on the list below to see if I am being reasonably sensible(training and recce will be done)
In no particular order:
Sandstone Trail A race 2013, 17m, 84th/180, 2:38
Roaches Fell race 2013, 15m, 95th /142, 3:16
Passing Clouds 2013, 9m, 85th/198, 1:41
Cloud9 2012 9m 106th/406, 1:12
OMM 2012 Medium Score, finished in top half of class. Several D+W miniMM
I can managed a road Half in about 1:40, but mostly run off road these days. Off road 10K 47mins 2013.
Previously walked/jogged 3 Peaks in 9hrs and run the Gritstone Trail (35m)North to South solo in a day.
I have kit, but as I say this would be my longest actual race. Got to start somewhere, but got to get experience first...
Comments appreciated, thanks
Weather aside (which can make any race extreemly challanging) the Edale Skyline would be on the easier end of races of this length, when compared to The Trigger or most of the Lakeland Classics/Snowdonia races. From your listed race diary I reckon you are well on the way. Just get over to Edale and run the second half (from Hollins Cross) a couple of times as the first half is pretty straight forward.
I have a couple of writeups of my two races(2011 & 2012) below (35 minutes faster the second time :) )
My FIRST EVER fell race was Tanky's Trog. It was a different era (4 years ago) In the modern environment I would not even have been allowed to enter!
4 guys from the Cheshire Hash did the Trigger, but I bottled that one as a combination of logistics,distance, nav, terrain, weather, lack of training put it out of sensible zone for me, and I'd have been thinking about it all over Christmas!
I know the area a bit, I reckon I have run most/all of it in bits on either D+W miniMM or DIY routes over the last couple of years. The Rushup-Brown Knoll-Jacobs Ladder section certainly looks the most challenging, in terms of Nav and terrain underfoot, esp as late in the race
There's no race Entry Requirements on the dpfr site yet, so I wondered if there was a definite bar, or just a reasonably sensible entry requirement.
We have been very lucky with the three Triggers so far as the conditions have been good. Bleaklow & Kinder would be a serious undertaking in driving wind and rain. The skyline would be a better "first one"
if i remember rightly, the entry form is a case of listing your experience which is then vetted for suitability.
Hi DavidQuote:
Originally Posted by drmorris
Ian F has the final say as it's his race but looking at what you have listed you should be fine. just reccie the second half a few times ,get the bearings written down and do a full trip skyline as practice.
I have done Roaches 3 times all around 3 and quarter hours. I have done Skyline once and took 4 hrs 40 mins and was amazingly not last.Quote:
Originally Posted by drmorris
I found with the skyline the first half, to get within the cutoff for someone with our pace, was pretty speedy. This left me knackered for the second half. Nav could go wrong on second half if visibilty isn't great.
If I was you - give it a go and if you are going to do a recce do the second half.
Should also mention if you have a bucket list make sure you do Langdale - amazing race
I'd say the Skyline is about ideal as a step up from what you've been doing. You were 6 mins slower than me in the SST A race, & the last time I did the Skyline (2012) I did it in 3:56. You may come in around 4:15 to 4:30 depending on how much hill climbing you've been doing. There's just over twice the climbing on the Skyline compared to the Sandstone Trail race. You should be fine getting through the Skyline cutoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by drmorris
That's really useful advice, thank you all, esp Splatcher and lux for the comparisons and IanDP for the nav tips. Like the blog, DrPatrick
I'll train up, and if I get a place, will follow this thread.
This forum's great :-)
Obviously you have not read any of the "Safety" threadsQuote:
Originally Posted by drmorris
Well I think that part of the forum's great too, although not necessarily easy going. Just think where we'd be without that sort of debate. None the wiser about a lot of things that have been going on, things that are likely to affect us all significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by DrPatrickBarry
I have been following the ... discussions? on safety.
Ever the Boy Scout, I'm on the 'Be Prepared' side of the fence, but am staying out of the arguments. I figure I'll do what any RO asks, and turn up fully loaded. But then I don't leave home without a load of kit even on a sunny day. That's just me, sad, but warm and dry!
I read on the DPFR site and twitter this morning that the half skyline is cancelled. Shame - but I appreciate it's tricky with landowner permissions.
Of course, you can still enter the main event and run round to Mam Nick in more than 5 hours (or whatever it the cut-off is). :)
That's a shame, I was hoping to help out at the start and then run the half skyline...
That was quick I've just been asked to announce it, The webmaster beat me to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel
You need to get out of bed a bit sooner Ian.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Shame that, because I fancied a potter round the half. Maybe in future?
shame on you I was up at 6.15 to make breakfast for the family.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
We had a quick text conference because of the Sportident entries tomorrow and I said I'd let the FRA/Forum know and by the time I turned my Computer on than young lad from t'other side of pennines had seen the webmaster post...
Why was he on our website I'd like to know..;)
Exactly, I was walking in the woods by then with the dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Earlier to bed, earlier to rise, make's you dead tired by the weekends.
It's a 24-hr news culture these days :)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I'm surprised I was so slow, the tweet was 54 minutes old before I noticed it.
Top Quote Stagger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
2nd 1/2 of the skyline is the fun bit. At least it would be, if you hadn't just done the first 1/2.
Entries open soon people are queuing up round the block!
Your not wrong, when I entered after having my breakfast there were already 85 entrants. It's now nearly a 100.
I'm in 150 entries so far...best get out for a run then...this will be my longest for 8 months.
Be careful (and that's a serious post) your one of the good guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Well, I've entered, and listed some of the stuff I've done in the last couple of years.
I'm now treating the Cloud 9 , on March 2nd, as a trivial little warm-up!
Fingers crossed
(y)Thanks Trevor, I doubt it will be fast but I'll be happy to get round. It will give me a focus for training.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stagger
the week after I'm in Scotland doing 8 munros with Shaunetto so this will be a pointer.
385 entries......if you want in then get your self entered. I reckon another day and it will be full
I'm in :)
I'm in too, best start getting some miles in...
Has anyone been over Brown Knoll recently? It must be the wettest for years up there. Interested to know how difficult it is to cross at the moment.
I'm thinking it may be safer to miss out that section when a few of us recce the 2nd half this weekend, and do it as an out & back nearer the race.
Wet!! but the race route doesn't follow the brown boggy line from the summit towards jaccobs ladder, it goes via a flagged route to the right (still boggy but not as bad)Quote:
Originally Posted by Caz
I was stood on Brown Knoll trig last week and didn't want to step off in fear of disappearing into the boggy abyss up there!
Apologies if this has already been covered (can't be bothered to read all 100 odd pages) but is the route returning to normal after last year's diversion on the descent from Win Hill to Hope, does anyone know?