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Well done Danbert, you didn't let the forum down.....
My pleasure biara. This is just too delicious for words and as one who has had to suffer over 35 years of them taunting,crowing and gloating, they need at LEAST half of that back to even begin to feel what we had to endure.Quote:
Originally Posted by biara
To be honest It could all go very bad for them very quickly from here. No top four and Rooney and Van Persie will be gone.With the loss of revenue and the Glazer debts they will not be able to afford the top players and anyway they won't want to go to a team not in the champions league.This season really is make or break for them and so far it is break and teetering on the edge of a total meltdown. Here's hoping!
To the tune of 'The Laughing Policeman':
There was a football manager,
His name was David Moyes.
They hand-picked him from Everton
To manage Fergie's boys.
But they're now in mid table
And out the FA Cup.
The man they call the chosen one
Has really f*cked it up
Bwahahahahaha etc
You cant be for real....Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos the Jackal
He's hideously advised... awful family and agent...
Danbo.. I find it strange.. if Moyes is so bad.. why try to turn Man U fans against him.... so we get him sacked... new owners... new manager... you want the status quo..
We have you worried...
The booing and empty seats at the end today seem to say that United fans don't need any help turning against Moyesy. On a personal front, my future son in law seems to have lost his United shirt:D:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Is the one with the yellow boots on in the middle of the front row Coleen Rooney?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
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Originally Posted by IainR
Never seen so much support for a rival manager by every fan in country... Keep up the good work Davey and remember, he who dares....wins
Think Danbert may be right when he says that Refs are against Utd now:
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Danbo are you short of a few pennies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
The glazers are multi millionaire businessmen...
They have no interest in ManU other that money... Carlos et al may not like that, but I'd rather that than the city situation..
Say we dont make the top 4... Rooney and RVP leave...
Then what?
Decades in the lower divisions? City style? or they sell... a rich sheik steps in and we get bank rolled....
Its what annpys you so much, we are United, its just a huge status symbol so someone will always step in.. we're not a city...
Attachment 7375The good news today is that david moyes is still manager of Manchester United and I'm loving it.
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Originally Posted by IainR
I'm smiling in silence. The rags don't want to go for a brew with me anymore
I stand there staring at them ..waiting....and ...nothing
I cough a bit and ask if they watched the match again with the corners of my mouth upturned. I wait .... Nothing.
I am their nemesis, I will be for a long time and it feels good
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Twenty years of gloating of them lot and it is all coming home to roost now. All I need now is for the bitter blue shit from across the park to implode.
We've had 35 years of it. I just hope they don't sack him. It just gets better and better - and his post-match interviews are priceless!:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by spen
You do seem to ignore any questions...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
Why did you pay 40 million for his best players?
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Originally Posted by IainR
It's looking like Tick is finally Tocking Iain
Theo Walcott out for 6 months and will miss the World Cup with an ACL injury to his left knee
Oldham fan stabbed after FA Cup match with Liverpool
Dirty rotten scouses at it again.
I wonder what the thought process was behind United picking ferguson's replacement last summer.
'Should we go for Mourinho, twice Champions League winner, UEFA cup winner and league titles in four countries or Pep Guardiola, 14 trophies in 4 seasons with Barcelona, no let's go with David Moyes, one second division championship in 15 years as a manager, he sounds like just the man we need'
1. Guardiola was not available..Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
2. Mourinho has never demonstrated he's anything other than a 2-3 seasons manager, doesn't build long lasting success, very outspoken, often falls out with those around him. Top manager, but I just don't think he fitted United's model for longevity.
Yes Moyes is a gamble. I find it laughable to be honest how the club are hounded for handing over to a young British manager... most gripe on about foreigners in the game.. yet now gripe on we went British...
Danbo has spent 20 years trying to lay blame on Fergie.. now he's gone he's trying to shout at the door that has been shut.. had Fergie left and we'd won the league Fergie was overated, had he gone and we'd struggled it was the wrong choice.
It wasn't just Fergie's choice. That's overplayed, Fergie made the offer which I think he had to. Moyes would have felt going behind his back. Fergie wanted to leave quickly to avoid the 2002 lull we had under him last time he tried to retire. But the Glazers, Charlton et al also wanted Moyes.
To be honest we could follow the city model, bring in a new manager, spend 300-400 million.. sack him for not winning the league, bring in a new manager...
We've followed the United model which is promote young, give people the chance.. as the most successive club in the modern era it's not a bad model.. and yes if it does backfire, so what? I'd rather try our way than just throw money at it like the English FA have bringing in foreign managers...
Guardiola's preference was always to come to the Premier League after his years sabbatical, if Ferguson hadn't left United in the shite by not announcing his retirement till May they could have had the best coach in the world rather than a miserable journeyman jock who has produced a series of dire teams over the yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Anyway if you're happy with Moyes and we are more than happy you've got him we are all happy:)
PS Stan James odds for United's next permanent manager - Mourinho 8/1 Giggs, Ferguson and Phil Neville all 10/1
I think its only those outside of OT who are even considering another manager...Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
How is Moyes a journeyman? One of the longest serving managers... Preston for 4 years, Everton for 11 years... served a proper apprenticeship.. and you begrudge him being given an opportunity? To lable him a journey man is actually just plain wrong..
I find it laughable how his success at Everton is being re-written.. he took a club with no money, developed youth, sold his best players, invested in lower league players and made them consistently top 6 top7... what he did there was pretty admirable at least..
Iain, you're just repeating yourself and it's falling on deaf ears. Just let them have their time in the sun, the ABUs will become ABCs and we'll get the chance to laugh at them again soon enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Moyes will DEFINITELY be given 2 seasons but this was always going to be a difficult season which is why they gave him a 6 year contract. That said, we need 2 or 3 world class midfielders in the summer - why we gave Nani a new 5 year contract is completely beyond me.
If that's true, why didn't he become City's manager then? Mainly because it's bollocks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
Guardiola is over-rated. Took over the world's best side at Barcelona and took over the world's best side at Bayern Munich. Even Danbert could have succeeded at those clubs!
I don't know if he's overated..
But he's had it easy so far... for me not staying at Barca makes me question him. He was due to lose Xavi and Iniesta.. the two most crucial pins in the Barca team...
He took over a team with three of the best players in the world and when Madrid were at war as usual. Had he rebuilt one team I'd be more impressed. Fergie rebuilt and rebuilt with 20 years of success.. he could have been a Jose and jumped around various teams with big money budgets...
Bayern could be interesting.. Dortmund are a selling club and you wonder how long they can keep developing players like they do.. so they'll dominate the bundesliga but when the leagues so uncompetitive I think it harms their European chances. Celtic are finding this now, its just too easy.
Nani is annoying, he has it all, pace, balance, skill, yet is anonymous for much of the season and when he plays badly he offers nothing, whereas Valencia puts a shift in whether on form or not. I'm now getting to the point where its time to cut our losses with him and Anderson.
I'd like to see Powell brought back either now or in June as I think he's a good footballer.
Took over the world's best side at Barcelona? The season before he took over they finished 3rd in La Liga, 18 points behind Real Madrid and they hadn't won a trophy for 2 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
He did well but he took over a team witH Xavi, Iniesta, Messi in.. and they had been European champs a few seasons before.. so the ingredients were still there..
this proves the point the glazers have ripped us off. They haven't invested in the team. You never see top teams needing 3 world class players in one go. The glazers will not spend this Jan or summer. The money only goes one way...out in their pockets. Every year a player of ribery's class walks out of united to service the huge debt. No champs league this year means less money = no top players. where is the Ronaldo money? Times are looking hard. Anyway my man united team of 1979/1980 would take todays team easily 3-1 ( Jordan, Coppell and micky Thomas with the goals)Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeathens
We've been given money, we've juist failed to get the centre mid sorted, but I do think Fergie was generally backed..Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlos the Jackal
But in recent years Valencia (16mill), Young (16 mill), Zaha (10mill),Van Persie (24 mill), Kagawa (14 mill), Buttner (4 mill), Jones, Smalling (7 million), Hernandez (7 mill) De Gea (17 mill), Felliani (28mill), Powell (6 mill).. that's a good 150 million investment in the last 3 years or so..
We've lost Ronaldo.. I can't think of many others. Our biggest loss was Pogba. Tevez wasn't ours.. then through retirement we've lost Scholes, Neville, and soon Giggs.. then Ferdinand and Evra will soon go.
We've needed a midfielder since Keane. carrick has been great but Hargreaves didnt work.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/ma...erein_985.html
net spending over the past 6 seasons...
Man City
Season 08/09 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -115.082.000 £
Season 09/10 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -102.388.000 £
Season 10/11 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -127.460.960 £
Season 11/12 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -57.318.800 £
Season 12/13 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -15.5.
Season 13/14 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -91.777.840
Net Spend 508 million
Man Utd
Season 08/09 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: - 33
Season 09/10 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: +67.817.200
Season 10/11 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -9.600.800 £
Season 11/12 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -36.7 £
Season 12/13 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -53.9 £
Season 13/14 - Premier LeagueTransfer balance sheet: -30.052.000 £
Net spend: 97 million
Man U would never condone that sort of spending, we've grown to a stable business over 20 years because we only spent what we made... And I'm glad we do that.. City can be bust in a year, another Rangers or Leeds.. Man U are secure.
Iain I look at your race times in wonderment...why because you spend so much time on here arguing with Danbert and the Heathens, if you took your training serious you could really become a good runner...:p ;)
From the man with 11,397 posts... :p
Nah I'd just probably have a career... :-)
Pogba left because Fergie brought back a retired 30+ year old, what was he supposed to do?
when you get old you start needing glasses to read and watch telly but also begin to see things more clearly, this will come to you. I like your faith in the club, I like the way that it ruins your week when they lose, I like the way you are prepared to stump up loads of cash to watch them. I was like that in my teens but I can see that the glazers are not interested in united but in cash. I can see no champ league next season and what that means. Every empire comes to an end. In the 70's and 80's I wouldn't have believe the dippers c@c& would drop off but it did.
I don't... my parents have season tickets.. so if I'm back and have time I'll watch 1-2 games a season.. but tbh like my father I'd rather compete and train and watch them regularly when my legs are gone..
I don't know, we've been poor so far yet not that far off 4th. But we need to sign, I'm not sure if the noises about no signings are just typical Fergie ruses.. I dont think we'll catch City or Chelsea.
I think Pogba was probably right to go, but I dont think Scholes was ever a threat to him. he may come back but I suspect he'll stay on the continent. Morrison had to go.. the guy was a lose cannon and had bad influences in Manchester. He's potentially a great player but you can only have so many idiots on a pitch and we have Rooney..
He benefitted from 10 years of work behind the scenes, from junior team to senior team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Head
And a fairly decent chap called Lionel.
Eh, where have we argued? I was saying it wasn't worth arguing with Danbert.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Some people! Really! ;)
This is the kind of United fan attitude that makes what's happening so much sweeter.Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
I wonder about old Bacon face though, now in his 73rd year, sat as he does, in the stand, looking increasingly like a Harry Enfield character. I wonder if he ever contemplates his drive to work on the morning of the 1st September 2008?
That probably marked the high point of his tenure at united. European Champions and manager of a team with genuine attacking menace, he had also cemented his own position of invulnerability within the club. Glazer had come in, Bacon face had backed him (for reasons of which everyone including Roy Keane is tempted to wonder) and the trophies had kept rolling in. He probably knew Ronaldo would be able to force a move to Madrid, but he could hold that off for another season at least. Him, Rooney and Tevez really were a force of nature that further cemented his timeless reputation for swashbuckling football.
And to the challengers? Jose had gone, Arsenal were on the decline and Liverpool were never going to win a 38 game season under Benitez. He could go on for another few years and keep those he had tamed easily at bay. He'd played the game to perfection.
One thing he almost certainly wouldn't have given a minutes thought to, at least in any meaningful sense, was his not so noisy neighbours. He'd probably heard murmurs that they were in the shit financially. Again. And had a little chuckle to himself. 'You can always rely on City to brighten up your day' he might have thought to himself.
And now, less than six years later, he sits in the stand while we effortlessly overtake the fruit of his labours for twenty six years. In pretty much every respect we will be a bigger and if not, better force in the years ahead - and he probably knows it. He must sit there and wish with all his heart that he was, once again, sat on the A34 on 1/9/08 thinking about where he could best deploy Berbatov after he'd signed him later that day.
Tick Tock.
Danbert you've got to let Fergie go.. you'll make yourself ill mate...Quote:
Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry
He went to Aberdeen and saw off the old firm.. he came to England and saw off Liverpool... he then saw off the invincibles.. then Chelski... then took the title back off you..
To even suggest he was scared of you is laughable..
You stil not answered how we always have bigger attendances, even when we were in the division below... its why its laughable you wil ever have a name comparable to United, Liverpool, Barca or Real.. it's why you shout so loud....
You also forget fair play regulations.. and Citys reliant on one guy pouring millions in.. 508 million in 6 years.. the greatest input ever in the history of the game... if he has a car accident.. city go bye bye..
You've got to love the fact that Sir Bobby, Sir Alex and Robson are still so tightly involved.. I doubt there is a club in the league apart from Liverpool who has that... it's called history Danbert..
Crucial away goal tonight... good result.. :-)
Some more history again to night
Danberts favourite club to hate lost again to the bottom of the league, in a cup semi final.