Wasdale

Paul Dobsons photos, not mine. Beautiful day though and some good shots.

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Originally Posted by Toreador

Anyone know what the winning time was?
We were climbing on Scafell (getting cold in the shade) and watched a few people running/walking down Lingmell in the late afternoon. I'd been wishing I'd entered until I got out the car at 8.30am and the heat hit me!

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A little over 3:55 according to my camera.

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Originally Posted by ba-ba

A rather chastening experience, but toughed it out to set what will hopefully be a personal worst which lasts until I'm a V55 at least! Well done to all who got round and thanks to all the marshalls and support out there. Cheers to Digby, Tindersticks and Stefan for chatting to me when I felt reet crap over Seatallan/Scoat Tarn way!

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A chastening experience indeed! I was feeling quite good when we were running together until I got hit by cramp - felt like I'd been harpooned in both legs! It was just a case of survival after that.

Apologies for not joining you at the pub on the night Nic. We went up to see the others at the hut with the best intentions of carrying on to the pub but once Mr Soles told us how much beer he had, the odds of us getting out before midnight lengthened considerably!

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Originally Posted by Mike T

Not enough carbs on the way round Rob? Styhead to Broad Crag Col is rough in places but the gradient is steady at worst. I knew if I made it to Styhead I would finish, albeit slowly.

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I don't think it was carbs. Just too hot for me and think I overheated. Sat looking at Scafell and thought no chance!

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Originally Posted by Rob Furness

I don't think it was carbs. Just too hot for me and think I overheated. Sat looking at Scafell and thought no chance!

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Like many others I really suffered too. I felt pretty grim by Greendale despite a very gentle start and had cramp before Seat Allen that just gradually got worse as the day went on. I had to stop on the hard shoulder 3 times driving home to deal with bouts of cramp. What has surprised me most though is that 3 days on I still feel crap and feel that I have pulled my left calf which is still too sore to touch in addition to DOMS worse than I have ever experienced. Are others finding the post race recovery as hard?

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Originally Posted by Corniceman

Like many others I really suffered too. I felt pretty grim by Greendale despite a very gentle start and had cramp before Seat Allen that just gradually got worse as the day went on. I had to stop on the hard shoulder 3 times driving home to deal with bouts of cramp. What has surprised me most though is that 3 days on I still feel crap and feel that I have pulled my left calf which is still too sore to touch in addition to DOMS worse than I have ever experienced. Are others finding the post race recovery as hard?

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Being on the verge of, or getting heat exhaustion is a pretty serious thing. If you can't keep cool enough, by sweat (which means good hydration , liquid / salts ) or other means ( taking a dip in a tarn :D ) then the results can be pretty bad and it can take while to feel right again

What surprised me about wasdale was the number of runners who didn't seem to be carrying water. I ran with a camelback and constantly sipped water all the way around, felt reasonably good considering the conditions. I realise carrying extra supplies isn't always best for speed but for most of us the longs are about getting around. The top lads/lasses are incredible athletes and seem to get by on bare essentials. Your average runner need to keep refuelling, it's one hell of a hard task doing wasdale no matter what the weather. Just carrying a small bottle and filling up whenever possible doesn't always work on days of extreme temperature, you're already dehydrated before the next chance of water. Hats off to everybody who give it a go and roll on next year.

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Originally Posted by Tindersticks

What surprised me about wasdale was the number of runners who didn't seem to be carrying water. I ran with a camelback and constantly sipped water all the way around, felt reasonably good considering the conditions. I realise carrying extra supplies isn't always best for speed but for most of us the longs are about getting around. The top lads/lasses are incredible athletes and seem to get by on bare essentials. Your average runner need to keep refuelling, it's one hell of a hard task doing wasdale no matter what the weather. Just carrying a small bottle and filling up whenever possible doesn't always work on days of extreme temperature, you're already dehydrated before the next chance of water. Hats off to everybody who give it a go and roll on next year.

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It depends on the person. I wonder how much drinking is a mental thing.. I train with a strong african runner.. we meet at 8:30 am on a sunday and do up to 20 mile trail runs.. all he has is a coffee when he wakes up.. no breakfast.. no water or food on the run and we run the routes at low to mid 6;00 min miling so not a steady trot...

He's convinced we don't need as much as we think we do....

True, it is possible to get round without as much fluids as people think. Totally agree with this African guy for training purposes, much like my approach (most of you probably not counting milk as breakfast).

But it amazes me how most fellrunners think they don't need to carry/arrange an energy drink to get the best performance in an AM.. carrying a bottle uphill is hardly much of an inconvenience. Who would claim to run their best Half Marathon without some gels/energy drink?

Any news on when we might expect to see results/splits?