Salomon S-Lab Fell Cross

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Originally Posted by Mike T

..... but some are worse than others ...... mudclaws are not as bad as sportivas for example.

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And swoops are appalling on anything; most expensive pub shoes I've ever bought!

Hopefully the innevitable Fellcross 2 will address the grip situation, and bring it in line with the excellent upper :-)

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Originally Posted by AndyA

The only advantage of Walsh is that you can resole them (if the upper haven't fallen apart). I've run in both, on all different terrain and the mudclaw absolutely p1sses all over them for grip.

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Oh, I must be mistaken then..... Apologies, it was an easy mistake to make after only 30 years experience.... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by AndyA

And swoops are appalling on anything; most expensive pub shoes I've ever bought!

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Try telling that to Tom Adams & my 12 year old son ! They swear by them !! One mans Robin Reliant is another mans Bentley............

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Originally Posted by Fellhound

Oh, I must be mistaken then..... Apologies, it was an easy mistake to make after only 30 years experience.... :rolleyes:

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Apology accepted, just don't do it again! (didn't realise mudclaw had been around that long!)

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Originally Posted by AndyA

And swoops are appalling on anything; most expensive pub shoes I've ever bought!

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Last years winner of the Auld Lang Syne fell race was running in swoops.... 1st & 2nd place were both wearing Adidas!!!

They can`t be that bad....

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Originally Posted by Roland

Last years winner of the Auld Lang Syne fell race was running in swoops.... 1st & 2nd place were both wearing Adidas!!!

They can`t be that bad....

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No they're not that bad really; several of our juniors wear them. They are a bit exciting on wet slab and rock but, as others have said, most fell shoes are. I don't rate them for steep grass or mud descents either, not compared to the mudclaw anyway. Not done ALS so don't know what the route's like.

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Originally Posted by Roland

Last years winner of the Auld Lang Syne fell race was running in swoops.... 1st & 2nd place were both wearing Adidas!!!

They can`t be that bad....

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What you seem to forget that these are professional athletes who are being paid of lot of money to run in Adidas. There's probably a good chance that the swoops that they are running in aren't off the shelf swoops, they will probably even have a softer rubber sole.

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Originally Posted by hopey

What you seem to forget that.....

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I love that phrase, perhaps if you added "my dear boy " on to the end, you could make it sound even more patronising!

tbh I doubt adidas care what the brownlee brothers wear for fell running; they sponsor them for their tv exposure, I doubt they'll be making special shoes just so they can win bottles of beer at the weekend! They'll get the shoes for free but that's probably it.

If I had free shoes, I'd probably wear them too (although I'd wear the swoops down the pub; see above!)

I had a worn (on the sole) pair of wave harriers resoled recently, by the good folk of Lancashire Shoe Repairs. It cost twenty quid, and I now have the grippiest, and comfiest, shoes I have ever run in. All my other shoes are walshes which I also rate highly (if they can stop my vast bulk from slipping they must be good!), and I don't know how long the new sole will last but hey, for twenty quid they're a bargain!
The only down side for me was that it involved dealings with the dark side, over the border...