Ukip

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Originally Posted by TheHeathens

Why? We don't share the same currency... ???
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Again, why??? The financial transactions tax that the EU want to impose on the city of London will be far far more damaging.
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Firstly, a weak pound helps exporters as it's cheaper for overseas countries to purchase our goods. Secondly, it would also make labour cheaper meaning the Airbus jobs would likely stay.
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Mainland Europe is far far more dependent than us. The US will be a net exporter of oil and has within 2 years and that'll be coming our way.

Back to the drawing board Danbert ;)

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Come off it Heathens you're not unintelligent and you know damn well that a significant benefit to the UK from EU membership is the foreign investment we receive – Companies often locate in the UK precisely because we are inside the single market – The best example i can give you is the Nissan’s factory in Sunderland which exports to the rest of the EU.

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Originally Posted by mr brightside

In the interests of not going round in circles...i think we need to close our borders totally until the backlog of immigration applications is cleared, then open them to skilled workers who we need. We also need to get our own people skilled and working, and enthusiastic about both those things.

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Just to add- the former of these can probably be achieved by voting UKIP in.

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Originally Posted by Danbert Nocurry

Come off it Heathens you're not unintelligent and you know damn well that a significant benefit to the UK from EU membership is the foreign investment we receive – Companies often locate in the UK precisely because we are inside the single market – The best example i can give you is the Nissan’s factory in Sunderland which exports to the rest of the EU.

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They locate inside the UK because of our expertise in those areas (which is why most F1 teams are based here).

We will still be inside a free European trade area because the de facto leaders of the EU, Germany, will make sure we are. We're too important to THEIR economy to freeze us out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21127037

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Originally Posted by TheHeathens

They locate inside the UK because of our expertise in those areas (which is why most F1 teams are based here).

We will still be inside a free European trade area because the de facto leaders of the EU, Germany, will make sure we are. We're too important to THEIR economy to freeze us out.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21127037

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Really

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/...gland-scotland

We live in a democracy and the folk who could be bother to vote have done and we know the results.

Next year we do it all again so if you don't like the out come go and canvas your people to vote otherwise.

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Originally Posted by mr brightside

Just to add- the former of these can probably be achieved by voting UKIP in.

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Where do you stand on these seeking asylum, who have a substanitated claim?

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Originally Posted by mr brightside

The immigration system has a backlog of an estimated 60,000 cases according to that last Panorama/Dispatches i saw on the subject; and is thus out of control.

People from outside the EU were flooding in under Blair/Brown, and it was an open door with no skills needed.

We don't 'need' foreign workers in this country. Too many of our own folk are either sat on their arses or desperate for work, there is nothing wrong with giving our own population some skill and encouragement. I think Dave's 'Big Society' thing was along these lines but i can't see what if anything has been achieved. In certain cases he seems to have hit their benefits payments instead of their lack of enthusiasm, which is only going to demoralise them further.

In the interests of not going round in circles...i think we need to close our borders totally until the backlog of immigration applications is cleared, then open them to skilled workers who we need. We also need to get our own people skilled and working, and enthusiastic about both those things.

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So how would being out of the EU help that back log? As we'd need more visa's...

You say now we don't need foreign workers... yet admit the NHS is propped up by foreign workers...

Ok so more training.. so you want to pay more taxes..

Here Brightside, have your cake and eat it...

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Originally Posted by The devil's own

And you'd be happy with this?

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Happy? Impossible to say, too many variables. Objectives set out may well be achieved.

I met a guy who came to our work once who'd had his face quite literally blown off in a Caustic Soda accident at his former workplace. He said, "The single biggest problem with [safety related] communication is the illusion that it has taken place at all". To paraphrase old Ken...the single biggest problem with dealing with an issue is the illusion that we are dealing with it at all.

You Ukip voters have beaten me with the strength of your arguments. You're right there's nothing wrong with standing up for the country you love, no other party is defending the Union Jack and If it was up to the PC brigade the muslim rape gangs would be dancing on the old Queen Mum's grave on the way from the benefits office to their taxpayer funded 5 bedroom mansions.

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Originally Posted by mr brightside

Happy? Impossible to say, too many variables. Objectives set out may well be achieved.

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Though if an "extreme right authoritarian' country" is the way to get your objectives acheived then this is a route you would want to take?