Horrific. Glad you're okay Wheeze
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Horrific. Glad you're okay Wheeze
Jeez that's horrific. Glad you are still here to tell the tale
Frightening. Best of luck with your recovery.
Thanks guys. I,m not one to overdramatise. And I'm really regretful that a dog is dead. But I thought my time had come. Until you see 50kg driving a gaping mouth of white fangs straight at your throat, I guarantee you have no idea of sheer primordial terror. I instantly slipped through a wormhole in time to become cro-magnon v wolf. It was just utterly shocking. The attack was unprovoked, unexpected and without warning. I was on a major national footpath (Offas Dyke Way). God knows what would have happened if the attack was on a kid.
It would have quite probably killed a child or petit woman
I was on local moorland when I stumbled upon a Doberman, a Rottweiler and a huge mastiff all off lead. The doberman approached me, teeth exposed and growling, with his pals for back up. Very scary
Bloody hell that's scary! Take it easy and heal well Wheeze.
The occasional nip is, as you say, something of an occupational hazard but that was something else completely. Don't let it put you off getting out there - though it's making me think I must admit, having had close calls very occasionally....
Sorry to hear about this shocking incident Wheeze. Get well soon buddy and see you at a race soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
This sounds shocking. It must have left you badly shaken.
As a matter of interest what did the owner say/do? And what action are the police taking?
The owner managed to get the dog off me...eventually.
Lets say there was the a frank exchange of views once I realised my jugular vein had not been torn open...a matter of a couple of mm! All that adrenaline turned to pure anger. I departed the scene confirming I had no option but to report it, if only to ensure the safety of others. The Plod, when he saw the wound, immediately became pretty business-like. He'd never seen anything like it. Anyway, we had confirmation a few hours later that animal had been put down. As far as I am concerned, the matter rests there because no-one else can be harmed now.
I'm learning to deal with the flash backs.
That's terrible Wheeze, so sorry to hear about the attack and hope you get over it, unfortunately it tends to leave one nervous when meeting unknown dogs.
I've been a lifelong dog lover and owned dogs, but am getting sick to death of dog owners with out of control or dangerous dogs and breeds.
I've been attacked and bitten (a proper attack and bite, not a little nip) twice here, both times when standing stock still waiting for the owner to regain control of the dog. One owner denied I had been bitten - roll up trousers and show blood - the others thought it quite amusing their German Shepard had ripped my rucksac and then taken a lump out of my leg; apparently I have bad body language and the dog spots it, so mainly my fault.
Get well soon Wheeze, we have hills to climb!
Wheeze - It's good that the police took it seriously. In terms of you reporting it to ensure the safety of others, I would like to think that everyone in your situation would have done exactly the same thing.
It has seriously made my head spin.
I'm the kind of guy who feels like I have a missing limb if I don't have a dog. Grew up with a labrador who was my best mate and have had 3 of my own. Put last one down last year aged 14. Bit raw to get another at the moment. I love dogs and pride myself in knowing how to handle them.
But this f*cker was something else. There was no pre-amble, no warning, nothing but a single well executed intent to kill. And it very nearly did.
Jeez.
That is awful. I hope the dog owner is being prosecuted. Why on earth do people have dogs they have no control over? That attack sounds and looks horrific. I can understand how you are still in shock. I hope you recover quickly both in mind and body. Best wishes Wheeze xQuote:
Originally Posted by Wheeze
I don't know RTS.
The owner turned himself in when he knew I was reporting the incident and the dog was put down same day. No need for prosecution because that would only have resulted in a destruction order which has already happened. As for whether I want to pursue a private prosecution, the answer is no. I just want to move on.
As you have said, your love of dogs is well documented on this forum. I hope you're on the mend physically & mentally. Rest assured you have behaved correctly given the circumstances.
Agree entirely. And fortunately the dog's owner did the right thing too, eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by (notsomuchofa)Fellrunner
I've put down 4 dogs already this year for biting people. In each case the owner has been devastated but made the choice of their own accord. I can only reassure and advise them that it is the correct course of action. Rehoming is not an option.
Hospital admissions from dog bites have gone up by over 70% in the last 10 years. It begs the question, why? More dogs? Less responsible ownership? Less willing to do away with problem dogs? Rise of 'Facebook charities' rehoming problem dogs? People not putting dogs on leads or using those silly extendable things?
I quite like dogs, I earn a living from them and I've got one, but I do think given the increase in problem behaviour (owners and dogs!) it's time that dogs were kept on leads in popular parks and footpaths at all times. In fact, I think they should be banned from my local park entirely and I do not say that in jest. I'm fed up with my children and I being jumped on by other dogs and I'm fed up of walking in dog poo and having to wipe it off my child's buggy. I brought my dog up to stay next to me and any hint of a potential flash point he's on the lead. In the park, on a towpath, passing a runner/horse/cyclist- he's on the lead, it also means I know when he's done a poo and he hasn't just sneaked off to do one on the path to be picked up by some unsuspecting buggy wheel.
I hope you get better quickly Wheeze. In a way it's a blessing it was you and not some three year old child.
This post is going to be all over the place, but starting off I should say that I have had so may run-in with brain-dead dogs and owners that I would be the happiest person in the country if every dog disappeared. My wife and kids would happily have a dog but I am completely against it. The two reasons being it would be locked up in the house all day while we are at work and that is just not right, how many dogs are stressed out by that? I would love to have a dog on my runs, it can be lonely running along on dark winter evenings, but I know I would not do the "poop scoop" thing, no way I would have a bag of shit in my bum bag so I would then be one of those disgusting owners. About the lead thing - if the poor animal is not allowed to have a run around when outside then yet again it is increasing its stress levels. Suppose what I am saying is that you should not have a dog unless you can take care of it properly and have somewhere safe to give it plenty of exercise.
As I have said on this forum before we regularly have dogs on our Thursday Pennine training runs and beside nearly tripping over them a number of times they are great.
On the other hand, the benefits of dog ownership or dog contact are well documented. When my Mum was recuperating from breaking her hip they brought petting dogs into the ward and the joy it caused was palpable. Some work places are now allowing dogs in and notice improvement in mood and therefore productivity.
Its the horrible poo and the control issues that are the downsides...both of which are down to the owners.
see......I'm trying to rehabilitate myself!
All the best Wheeze.
As alluded to by Pat, I think a lot of the problem is households which want a dog and so get a dog despite there being nobody at home all day because everyone is out at work. A dog shut up all day must surely be at greater risk of developing behaviour problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by brummievet
I'd love to have a dog, as would my partner, but we don't for exactly this reason. (And also because we're climbers as well as runners and I don't want to be one of those people who take a dog along when rock climbing and leave it alone at the foot of the crag to annoy/terrorise other people)
Really sorry to hear about your incident Wheeze.
My wife was bitten by a loose young pit bull cross affair when we were on holiday in Kefalonia. She was pregnant at the time but battered it with her handbag which made it run off. We took refuge in a hotel to call a taxi to take her to hospital. I had recently done a high level first aid course and while I was patching her up the guy from the pool bar begged us to report it to the police as it had been attacking people over the last few weeks. Wife and baby ended up being fine, never found out if anything got done about the dog.
We were both really shaken by it and are still wary around any blunt muzzled dog to be honest.
We got the whole what did you do? They can sense when people don't like dogs etc.. from other holiday makers. This stopped quickly when I explained that we were dog lovers and owned 2 dogs off working lines that were extremely well trained to behave around people and livestock.
As you're a dog lover and don't carry any prejudice over dogs; I hope that you will get over it quickly but I'm afraid to say you will probably still be wary over similar looking breads.
Speedy recovery Wheeze both physically and mentally...
I hate reading this thread as it reminds me of the times I was bitten as a child...
Saw a lamb being chased down and attacked by a dog yesterday at Martindale as I was walking down off Steel Knotts. After the owners had eventually pulled their dog away I saw the lamb walking slowly away bleeding. Not sure if the lamb survived but the owners of the dog could have acted a lot faster.
I was wondering about this statistic. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-past-10-yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by brummievet
Is it a shift in ownership reasons? I'm sure most folk who have looked at rescuing will have seen an awful lot of Staffies. A disproportionate number of those seem to be chosen as easy to live with 'tough' dogs, how many of these are poorly trained or socialised.
Or is it simply a change in reporting methodology or victim behaviour? The lazy Google I just did doesn't seem to suggest any corresponding increase in the pet population.http://www.statista.com/statistics/3...ed-kingdom-uk/
I know Facebook makes it seem like there are more idiots in the world, but I honestly believe they've always been there. It's just they'd not been given the vanity platform from which to blight the lives of others.
Far from convinced there are more bad dog owners today than 10 years ago.
One of the reasons I took on a recycled Staffie.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
Staffies are generally good with people and especially with children. They used to be known as the nanny dog. One reason being that as they were originally fighting dogs, the owners did not want to be bitten themselves.
A of a pair of vicious Staffies https://www.instagram.com/p/BECgCQWr...blueboys&hl=en
It's a trick, like the Wolf in Red Riding Hood.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbrt
More seriously, doesn't matter so much what the Nanny status is, if they've ended up being owned by some Scrote looking for a hard man dog that doesn't need much exercise the problem lies elsewhere.
Edit, I'm not calling you a Scrote. Not this time anyway, I normally go with Bawbag.
Where's Noel these days anyway?
Aren't you Sheffield way?
This thread is generally going into from "It's ok he doesn't bite" to "I hate all dogs regardless and want them all on leads when out of their own garden. Regardless of how well controlled they are".
We have 3 dogs - I work from home so they are not left alone.
1 is a chocolate lab, Tia that we have had for 13yrs. She has never bitten anyone or anything.
2 is our rescue dog Winnie, she a border collie who we have had for 5 years. She was in a very sorry state when we got her and had been dreadfully treated. She has no interest in chasing anything living but it took us a few months to get her to realise that she will get dinner and didn't have to run off into the undergrowth to devour mouldy rabbits. She also has never bitten anyone.
3 our latest rescue is Beau a border collie. We have had him for 6mths. He just wants love and cuddles. He has no interest in chasing anything living or dead. When coming into our home he will want to sit on your lap whoever you are (it is something we are working on stopping). When out running he will not even register anyone or anything is there he just wants to run with either myself or MrRTS. If you met him you would realise the thought of him biting anyone is totally unthinkable.
It's ok saying dogs are unpredictable so you never know. I believe our dogs are probably more predictable than most people and I would trust them more. Our dogs are part of our family and we love them, we treat them well & they repay us with so much more. Not a day goes by that one or the other (usually the choc lab) does not do something that makes us laugh. So let's remember that most dog owners are responsible and most dogs are wonderful. The difference is we and they do not get on the news. Look how sweet and proud they are with the birthday present they bought me :-)
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Isn't a scrote the same thing as a bawbag?Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
Maybe Noel is out fell running?
Derbyshire just next to Staffordshire
Out.... running.... on fells...Quote:
Originally Posted by sbrt
I'm shocked
Inside sources tell me you may not be 100% on the markQuote:
Originally Posted by RaceTheSweeper
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we have a jack russell and his main fault in life is doing inappropriate things with the kids teddy bears!!!!
Pictures or it didn't happen
I got my armpits licked by a dog after the austwick amble the other week. I was crashed out on a bench and the dog was lurking under the bench waiting to strike, i tried to offer it some water for the aftertaste but it refused and wanted more sweat. I was lucky not to have been in shorts really or it could have been John Wayne's hairy saddlebags that took one for the team.
Folk pay good money for that...
So I've heard anyway
We've had the same issue with our Jack Russell.Quote:
Originally Posted by luxinterior
"Daddy, what's Dougal doing with Peppa pig's bottom?"
Oh bloody hell....
hahahahahahahaha they do love a bit of sweat :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Well said RTS :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RaceTheSweeper
Fell running is a slightly crazy outdoor pursuit that I love and, over the years, the forum has been for me a great meeting place for like minded individuals.
Nowadays though I'm not seeing much like mindedness. You lot carry on though :)
That reminds me, Teasel is overdue a Photoshop
This is one of my favourite dogs...
https://youtu.be/UhQYmcCI4MM