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Originally Posted by Stagger
Indeed - steady pace essential. Also the run off Ingleborough is further than you think - it's a long 5miles. If you've blown, it's interminable!
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Originally Posted by Stagger
Indeed - steady pace essential. Also the run off Ingleborough is further than you think - it's a long 5miles. If you've blown, it's interminable!
It certainly is! There is a finger post just after Sulber Nick that says Horton 1 & 1/4 miles and it always feels like 3 to me!Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzy
I think there is a new sign that says 1 1/2 miles....it's still not enough...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by fellgazelle
Steve my training which got me a sub 4 hours was starting from Strines Inn run up long track to Back tor, fast descent to Ladybower, run all the way round approx 11miles at half marathon pace then run back up from bottom of Abbey brook to Back tor and back to car. total mile age is about 17 miles, two good hills and a long fast quiet section. 3 weeks before I threw an extra climb in up Marg hill but lots of options..Quote:
Originally Posted by stevemon
I must be taking the wrong line between Whernside and Ingleborough as I never noticed the long, fast, flat run.Quote:
Originally Posted by Will_B
:D
True, its the long bit between Pen-y-ghent and Whernside that sets you up for blowing up on the way up Ingleborough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Witton Park
There is quite a bit of running to do between the real climbs and I had a battle with myself up the flags on Ingleborough, also the descent in to Horton is a bit of a slog but if you can possibly do a single run with more mileage and climbs in training then you'll find the race easy, although the flat(ish) sections do make it a bit of an odd one to pace IMO
As a frequent runner around the 3 Peaks route (that might just get even frequenter if my house move to Horton goes through :) ) I like to think I know my way round it fairly well. I haven't run the race for yonks (and nowadays it clashes with the Fellsman which I love 'to death' and must do again and again and again in a stupidly masochistic way) but I think my best 3P race time was circa 4 hours 20 - that said I have run (a variation of) the route in 3 hours 54. To aim for a 4 hour finish think in terms of 40 minutes to the top of Pen y Ghent, an hour to Ribblehead, 40 minute to the top of Whernside, an hour to the top of Ingleborough and 40 minutes back to Horton. A doddle then ;)
Mind you when I last ran it on February 15th, in somewhat less than perfect weather, it took me and Gavin 5 hours 30!
I did 3.54 in 2012 & didn't look at my Garmin once. I ran purely on how I was feeling. I don't need the added pressure of chasing times, my goal is always the enjoyment of the race !
When you are chasing the cut-offs like me, that's not always possible :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
I shouldn't be really, but two years ago and this year had injury hit prep. Only back training a week and so beating the Hill Inn cut-off will be the main target for me this year.
Agreed. The reason I mentioned times is that because many people's advice for the 3 Peaks is to not overcook things early doors. That is true but, if you instead end up over-undercooking things early doors, it can be a hell of a job trying to compensate later :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
certainly up PYG you can over cook it in the red mist at the start. if you can't talk and hold a conversation you are going too fast. I've done mid 30's and even a low 30's and you will suffer for it later. best to walk the steeper bits so you can run more later..Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Many people set time limits to get to places by. I set myself the target of not getting to PyG before 35min I think. As it was I was a little quicker but still jogged the entire hill feeling comfortable. Similar at ribblehead - 1h25 got there in 1:22, and it was from then I was passing people all the way home - bear in mind these times lead to a 3:25 so do not follow them if aiming for 4, but the premise is the same.
I agree, a few years ago I stood on the start line feeling terrible and wondering if I would finish it. I was amid BG training at the time and had put in some heavy weeks, so started at the back and plodded up PYG in 43. Started to feel a bit better after High Birkwith and after Ribblehead felt great. As ba-ba put it: was passing people all the way home from there and finished in 4:04.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Went back the following year, wondering if I would have made sub 4 if I'd just tried a little harder at the start. I was feeling great on the start line, reigned myself in, got to PYG 2-3 mins faster and crossed the finish line 10 or so minutes slower.
[QUOTE=and it was from then I was passing people all the way home - bear in mind these times lead to a 3:25 so do not follow them if aiming for 4, but the premise is the same.[/QUOTE]
I was one you passed. :-) from the Hill in to the finish was absolute torture. Fell and bust my last gel coming off Whernside and watched people stream past me for fun whilst coming off Inleborough. First ever attempt though and managed 3.31. Will be back next year!
I blew at the top of Ingleborough during a recce this weds, although I had been training normally and hadn't rested going into it at all which in hindsight wasn't a great idea (I've come down with a bug since too). But it just goes to show how hard it can be. I usually do an 18 mile variation (missing out PYG) and it's mostly steady with the hard work put in on the climbs. This time I felt dreadful at the top of Ingleborough and had to walk and eat for five mins or so before my legs woke up again.
Anyone know where to find the spilts from last yr?
Sportident?
Cheers Derby Tup, I couldn't find 2013's on sportident?Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
SPARE NUMBER
Hi folks,
Sadly a knee injury means I can't take up my place for this year (2014), so if anyone wants my number, they are welcome ... first come first served. As these seem in very short supply, I hope you won't mind paying the full £25 ... money well spent! Substitutions still allowed via SiEntries ... until the 11th of April. Please email me on: [email protected].
Cheers,
Shaun Roberts, Elvet Striders.
Due to injury there are two 3 Peaks places going spare. Please pm me and I can sort out substitutions on Sportident.
Thanks
FF
I've also got a place going spare if anyone wants it.
Is the three peaks place still going if so email me [email protected]
Ian thanks for reply but I have been too busy to read till today. (moved job, mum died, etc)Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
With two weeks to go I intend to get round- hopefully in around 5`30 :cool::cool:
article in todays yorkshire post about the 3 peaks race
Has anyone been over the course or parts of it, wondered if it was still fairly dry?
Here you go - http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/...thon-1-6564359Quote:
Originally Posted by dylan
I was up there two weeks ago and at that point it was pretty wet, especially the middle of the section between Ingleborough and Horton. But the weather has improved a lot since then so I would imagine it is a good deal drier now.Quote:
Originally Posted by egor
I've just moved house to Horton :) and can confirm that conditions are really dry right now. Rain is forecast for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday though.Quote:
Originally Posted by egor
This just received from the Three Peaks Race Committee
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Three Peaks Race 2014
Nearly 1,000 runners, including the 2011 winner Tom Owens, have entered the 60th Three Peaks Race in the Yorkshire Dales on Saturday, April 26.
But a notable absentee from the race – billed as “the marathon with mountains” – is Joe Symonds, who was expected to return to attempt a third win in succession. The 30-year-old hopes to run for Scotland in the Commonwealth Games in July.
The trainee paediatrician, who works at Raigmore Hospital in Inverness, is understood to have entered the two-day Highlander Mountain Marathon, which is being run on the same weekend in the hills around Moidart in the Lochaber region of Scotland.
After winning the 2013 Three Peaks in a time of 2hrs 54mins 39secs, Symonds, who was brought up at Sedbergh, predicted he would be back this year to attempt to beat the achievement of his father, Hugh Symonds, of Kendal Athletics Club, who won in 1984, 1985 and 1987.
Now all eyes will be on Tom Owens, 32, from the Three Peaks main sponsor, the Salomon International Team, who won in 2hrs 53mins 34secs in 2011 and finished 8th in 2012. His Salomon team mate Thorbjorn Ludvigsen, 25, who has entered the Three Peaks for the first time, has an unusual pedigree.
The Norwegian finished fourth in the International Union of Ultra Runners Trail World Championships in Connemara, Ireland, in 2011. Last year he finished second in the Limone Extreme VK SkyRace, which climbs from the shores of Lake Garda in Italy.
The Extreme course was designed by Skyrunning legend, Fabio Meraldi. The VK race has 3,608ft of height gain in 1.86 miles. It takes place as light fades and the course is illuminated only by competitors’ head torches. Ludvigsen completed the 14.6 miles in 37mins 34secs.
In February Ludvigsen won the men’s race in the Empire State Building Run-up in New York, having finished second in 2013. He took 10mins 6secs for the vertical dash up 1,576 steps from the lobby to the 86th floor of the Empire State Building. The event, which has staggered start times, normally ends on the observation platform, but bad weather meant the 500 competitors finished inside.
Ludvigsen faces a different challenge as one of 996 entrants in the Three Peaks Race. It starts in Horton-in-Ribblesdale, near Settle, and traverses a 23-mile route over Penyghent, Whernside and Ingleborough with a total ascent of 5,279ft.
The race record for the current course is held by Andy Peace, of Bingley Harriers, who set 2hrs 46mins 3secs in 1996. The women’s record is held by a Czech professional runner, Anna Pichrtova, who achieved 3hrs 14mins 43secs when the Three Peaks hosted the World Mountain Running Challenge in 2008.
The Three Peaks on April 26 starts 30 minutes later than normal at 10.30am. This is to allow competitors in the Fellsman 100K to clear Ingleborough and Whernside before Three Peaks runners travel in the opposite direction. The Fellsman, which changed its date in 2012, is starting 30 minutes earlier from Ingleton.
Streuth - he might break Andy's record by over an hour at that rate :DQuote:
Originally Posted by brett
Any update on this Stolly? Normally worn Roclites in the past for this but thinking I might need to take fell shoes this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stolly
Weather app is saying rain all morning ! Roclite for me. Already looking forward to the wet limestone. I think it may put paid to a few pb's !Quote:
Originally Posted by Muddy Retriever
Have a good and SAFE run everyone. Suber Nick can be terrible in this. ENJOY!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Been up today to help set up and it started raining mid-afternoon, with clag right down on all 3 peaks.
Looking forward to tomorrows race, have done it in road shoes and trail shoes, tomorrow methinks out'n out fell shoes. I've done it the last 7 years and I think tomorrow will be the wettest I've done it.
Second time out for me, and five pairs of shoes now in the car... I'll choose at 10am tomorrow!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fozzy42
No shoe dilemma here, xtallons are packed. The dilemma is with upper body wear, packed a vest, tshirt and a long sleeve top..!
La Sportivas for me.
Thin long sleeve with vest over - probably set off in waterproof jacket and optimistically expect to be able to pack it away by Ribblehead :)
That's a long road section in x-talons Dan !Quote:
Originally Posted by djglover