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Calder V Round 2012 onwards
CALDER VALLEY ROUND - 16 miles and 4000'
This is a training run cum challenge equivalent to a Category AL fell race. It starts from Mytholmroyd - full details are on its own web page here:
http://www.gofar.org.uk/caldervalley...challenge.html
it is recommended you use the route sheet as well as the pdf map
To add a bit of interest there are a range of Target Times for 2012 :
Elite - sub 2-45, A class - sub 3-15, Standard - over 3-15
It's all on the web page but it's all dead simple:
•Download the route sheet/map from the web page.
•Run round the route at any time to suit yourself.
•Register your time and club on this thread.
•Personal registrations only please - do not register other runners times.
•Like most worthwhile things in life this all depends on honesty so please stick strictly to the route described.
•A results summary will be published in July then at the year end.
Good Running and Good Luck in 2012 and ever after!!!
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I'm crocked at the moment so had a leisurely stroll round this with a mate who is a walker. Stopped off at new cricket club cafe at Old Town for morning coffee. Clocked up 6-15 which must be a record........ for the slowest time :o
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MM, good arrows. I will be having a trot round on saturday Morning. What are the stones down to pecket like?
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Originally Posted by
Rodders
MM, good arrows. I will be having a trot round on saturday Morning. What are the stones down to pecket like?
At the pace we were going no problem at all!! They were not as greasy as I thought they might be so should be Ok for running down if your shoes have reasonable grip. The path across Erringdon moor is very obvious now and the path through the nature reserve was quite churned up - probably from The Hebden traffic!
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Thanks for the info, I will post later on Saturday.
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Might have to have a bash at this soon - not knowing the area particularly well I'll probably have a slow route-finding trot round, then a full tilt at it when more confident with it all. Looks like a good route though.
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Just back from a nice round. pb of 2:55:56. Saw two Roe deer at Jockey Gate. they ran accross the path, I froze, they froze, we watched each other for a minute, then they ghosted off. Great. Also saw some Lamas in a field near there. Very eclectic.
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Originally Posted by
Rodders
Just back from a nice round. pb of 2:55:56. Saw two Roe deer at Jockey Gate. they ran accross the path, I froze, they froze, we watched each other for a minute, then they ghosted off. Great. Also saw some Lamas in a field near there. Very eclectic.
Great stuff Rodders. I would think it's drying out quite nicely now. On a good spring day it certainly takes some beating as a run what with the wild flowers and all that. I just hope I can get fit again so I can do it justice.
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I got round to doing this today (Mon 27/02/12) and the stats were:
Shiny Beast - Pudsey & Bramley
WL Start 10:05 Old Town Mill 10:32 (27m) Gibson Mill 10:56 (51m) Staups Mill 11:37 (1h 32m) Stoodley Pike 12:11 (2h 06m) Tk Jctn 12:31 (2h 26m)
Park Cottages 12:39 (2h 34m) WL Finish 12:46 (2h 41m)
Overall impressions were that its a really nice run. Conditions were good with it soft underfoot but not too sapping through the various bogs/fields you encounter and the forecast rain never got beyond a refreshing drizzle. Very useful to recce it, as I had done previously, although I still ended up missing the trod on Erringden Moor which was pretty silly as I know that bit pretty well from various races etc but it prob only cost me a few minutes. I really enjoyed some of the descents through the woods at Pecket Clough and down to Staups Mill. Hardest bits I found were the various uphill drags in open fields i.e at the start to Hill Head Farm and on those diagonal paths to Blackshaw Head. The tailwind I had up Stoodley Pike and off t'other side were really handy.
Definitely a really good outing - cheers for providing the route etc MM
Harry
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Originally Posted by
Shiny Beast
I got round to doing this today (Mon 27/02/12) and the stats were:
Shiny Beast - Pudsey & Bramley
WL Start 10:05 Old Town Mill 10:32 (27m) Gibson Mill 10:56 (51m) Staups Mill 11:37 (1h 32m) Stoodley Pike 12:11 (2h 06m) Tk Jctn 12:31 (2h 26m)
Park Cottages 12:39 (2h 34m) WL Finish 12:46 (2h 41m)
That's an excellent time for a first run Harry - one of the top 5 times. Perhaps now you know the route and in better conditions you might be within striking distance of Tom Brunt's 2-23 !!
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Not sure about that, but I can guess you can always dream - Was his quickest time not 2.17 looking at the 2011 times?, which is very sharp indeed.
It'd be nice to have a run round it in Summer with dry ground and nicely rested legs - though with all the racing and recceing when the season is in full swing thats usually a pipe dream. I reckon I could possibly do a 2.30 if all went well.
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Yes quite right 2.17 it was - as you say that's going a bit but good summer conditions could make a big difference. I'll watch this space!
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Third time lucky! First time I opted for the half round, second I approached Stoodley Pike from wrong direction so didn't make it up there and then success today. 3 hours 10 mins. What a fantastic route! I'll be able to do the last section down from Stoodley more confidently next time - so hopefully under 3 hours soon. Must say thank you for setting this route up - it's just what I needed to aim for and a great way to see so many different sides of Calderdale.
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Originally Posted by
NeilP
Third time lucky! First time I opted for the half round, second I approached Stoodley Pike from wrong direction so didn't make it up there and then success today. 3 hours 10 mins. What a fantastic route! I'll be able to do the last section down from Stoodley more confidently next time - so hopefully under 3 hours soon. Must say thank you for setting this route up - it's just what I needed to aim for and a great way to see so many different sides of Calderdale.
Still a good time that. It's a route that does make a big difference once you know it so sub 3 should be no big problem especially in better weather.
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I am intending to do this this comming Friday, but I have tried to plot the route onto the 1:25000 map, South Pennines with extreme difficulty. Most of the places mentioed in the route description are not indicated on the map, and the map is a labarynth of footpaths. It really does seem confusing. Does anybody have or could anyone provide a more simple route description with key features that might be on the map, the section up tp pecket and after the Gibson Mill are particularly confusing as is the description from the road to Stoodley. Can anyone help?
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The description is intended to correspond to what you find in the field rather than what's on the map. In other words use th description not the map to find your way resorting only to the map if you need clarification. Most of it is straight forward certainly as far as Gibson Mill. From there you just need to make sure you concentrate on the description to pick up the right paths.
The only section where more than one person has reprted problems is where to leave the boundary stones when crossing Erringden Moor to reach the pole that marks the descent into Broadhead clough nature reserve. There is now a more distinct path but I would advise using the map to navigate that bit.
I hope that helps.
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Thanks. I have also been sent a really useful PDF from a forumite which shows me the route outline relatively clearly, so weather permitting hopefully will have a good day on Friday.
Regards
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Originally Posted by
Corniceman
Thanks. I have also been sent a really useful PDF from a forumite which shows me the route outline relatively clearly, so weather permitting hopefully will have a good day on Friday.
Regards
OK see how you go on Friday. If you find the pdf useful send me a copy and I can always add it to the web page.
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Corniceman and myself completed a sociable lap of a very muddy, but pleasantly sunny CVR today in 2:59.
Old Mill 30mins, Gibson Mill 52mins, Staups Mill 1hr38mins, Stoodley Pike 2hrs18mins, Track 2hrs38mins, Park Cottage 2hrs51mins
Thank you Corniceman, you were excellent company. I hope you get chance for a whizz around later this year as I am sure you could do 2:45 or quicker.
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Thanks Spookster it was a great day out and and it was really good to have the company too. Nice to break 3 hours (just!!) Thanks for showing me the route which is really interesting throughout, hope I can remember it as i'd love to do it again sometime this year. A really recommendable day out for those who havent done it.
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Pdf of map plot (courtesy of Charlie B) now added to web page. :thumbup:
http://www.gofar.org.uk/caldervalley...challenge.html
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I had a plod round this today in a slow 3-40. Good day out in the Autumn sunshine and colours. If anyone still wants a shot at this now is probably one of the best times of year. It's still very wet underfoot of course and the rocks are slippery but the way across Erringden moor is really obvious now.
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Originally Posted by
MOUNTAIN MAN
I had a plod round this today in a slow 3-40. Good day out in the Autumn sunshine and colours. If anyone still wants a shot at this now is probably one of the best times of year. It's still very wet underfoot of course and the rocks are slippery but the way across Erringden moor is really obvious now.
Been meaning to have a go at this myself for quite a while now, (on the to-do list) I may just have a crack at it on Saturday afternoon or on Sunday morning as the cloaks go back.
Only treating it as a recce if I do as I only know parts of the route if anyone would like to come along.
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2012 summary of completions:
16 Feb Mountain Man 6-15
25 Feb Rodders 2-55
27 Feb Shiny Beast 2-41
9 April NeilP 3-10
27 Apl Spookster 2-59
27 Apl Corniceman 2-59
20 Oct Mountain Man 3-40
18 Nov MartKaye 3-45
A very select crowd this year. Obviously a run out for the more discerning athlete with an eye for a good route. :thumbup:
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Originally Posted by
MOUNTAIN MAN
A very select crowd this year. Obviously a run out for the more discerning athlete with an eye for a good route. :thumbup:
Yeah must be. Looking forward to the Hebden in January - so will try and squeeze in a recce of that between now and then. Still got my eye on another dash round this - maybe next Spring/Summer in dry conditions.
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Originally Posted by
MOUNTAIN MAN
I had a plod round this today in a slow 3-40. Good day out in the Autumn sunshine and colours. If anyone still wants a shot at this now is probably one of the best times of year. It's still very wet underfoot of course and the rocks are slippery but the way across Erringden moor is really obvious now.
My personal feeling is you may not be getting many times posted due to comments like "i had a plod round this in a slow 3-40" making people like myself feel embarassed about posting times slower than 3-40.
I did the round on 18-11-12 in a time of 3-49 feeling quite happy to have got round in that time. Here are my splits. Try not to due yourself an injury laughing at them!!
White Lion 11.30am
Old Town Mill 12.06pm
Gibson Mill 12.35pm
Staups Mill 13.37pm
Stoodley Pike 14.22pm
Track Junc 14.51pm
Park - Cottage 15.08pm
White Lion 15.19pm
I had a small nav blip so think i may be able to get under 3-45 if i had another bash.
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Originally Posted by
martkaye
My personal feeling is you may not be getting many times posted due to comments like "i had a plod round this in a slow 3-40" making people like myself feel embarassed about posting times slower than 3-40.
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Sorry about that Mart - certainly not my intention. There have been some fast times posted on here by some top runners so nobody should be put off by that. In fact it would be good to have some more sensible times recorded on here for 2013! Conditions are really wet so when or if it dries up I'm sure you will find you knock quite a bit off your time. And that's what it is really about - just trying to beat your own time -fast or slow. Good luck for your next run.
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No worries MM. I'm hoping now i've posted a slower than most time other people that may have done it in a slower time will post theirs.
I like the route and i'm going to try and run it once a month to gauge how my training is going.
Cheers!:wink:
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Originally Posted by
martkaye
My personal feeling is you may not be getting many times posted due to comments like "i had a plod round this in a slow 3-40" making people like myself feel embarassed about posting times slower than 3-40.
I did the round on 18-11-12 in a time of 3-49 feeling quite happy to have got round in that time. Here are my splits. Try not to due yourself an injury laughing at them!!
White Lion 11.30am
Old Town Mill 12.06pm
Gibson Mill 12.35pm
Staups Mill 13.37pm
Stoodley Pike 14.22pm
Track Junc 14.51pm
Park - Cottage 15.08pm
White Lion 15.19pm
I had a small nav blip so think i may be able to get under 3-45 if i had another bash.
I did it on Monday and took over 4 hours.
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That's a handy start to the year oven gloves! Well done especially as it is not your home ground. Good training for the Wuthering Hike as well !
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Thanks MM. I really enjoyed the route and intend to come back down soon and do it again (a lot quicker hopefully).
I'll post my split times later.
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OG alerted me to the CV Round... i'm going to have a go as it'll be useful training for Edale. What's a good time for a girl Mountain Man?
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Originally Posted by
Longdogs
OG alerted me to the CV Round... i'm going to have a go as it'll be useful training for Edale. What's a good time for a girl Mountain Man?
I'd say anything inside 3-30 in winter is very respectable or 3-15 in summer. There's quite a network of paths in the area so on the first run time can be taken up navigating. Once you are confident of where you are going you can then concentrate on the running and getting a good time so you will probably find a big improvement on your 2nd run.
I've added the CVR (plus one or two others) to a new 'be inspired' section on the gofar website - just waiting for details of the Stanhope 13 trigs.
Link here: http://www.gofar.org.uk/trainingruns.html
Good luck!
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Stanhope 13 trigs is my neck of the woods so I'm looking forward to the details of that one.
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Ah.. navigating, why did you have to spoil it by mentioning that! I'll do what you suggest and see what happens... thanks :)
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Planning to do initial recce tomorrow. I don't have a printer and the library is shut today (austerity measures), so i've just copied the entire instrucs by hand. Running it should be a doddle after that!
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Hey what a fab day out i've had.. great route! I wasn't hammering it but i timed myself at a rather frisky 2.52.37.. hardly wasted any time checking route as instructions were so excellent. I realised i knew alot of it already, although still found a new footpath about 1m from my house! And conditions so good, cold but no wind, and lovely underfoot. Didn't even get wet feet until after S Pike. I feel it'd be rude not to attempt sub-2.45 when i haven't done interval session the day before and eaten half my own body weight in pastry products from Hebden bakery on way to start.
One question.. the controls.. are they actually physical controls or just metaphorical ones? I looked but didn't see any, though i wasn't planning official clock in anyway. I memorised my times at each place to nearest minute which were: 0.33 OT Mill, 0:55 G Mill, 1.36 Ruin, 2.13 S Pike, 2.33 Junction, 2.44 Cottages.
Don't know who wrote the route instrucs, but they're great. If i was in any doubt i tried to think like a man, logic beat intuition every time, and the only time i went off route was Erringdon Moor where i refused to believe compass was sending me the correct way so took a longer route but not by much.
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Your thanks for the route description are owed to MOUNTAIN MAN (Tony). There are no actual control points other than the places themselves - "leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but photographs". Good run out isn't it?
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Not a bad time for starters Longdogs. A new ladies record!! Rachel Hill was the previous fastest in 2-55. You are the only two women to do it. You should't have much trouble breaking 2-45 when it gets a bit drier and warmer. Good to hear you enjoyed it and the navigation was not a problem. If you leave the main path at the right point there is now quite an obvious path across Erringden Moor which brings you out in sight of the post at the top of path that takes you down into Broadhead Clough.
I'm crocked again but I must have another run round when I recover.
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Thanks for the instructions M.Man, they must be good if i can follow them, i'm monumentally stupid at that kind of thing. I think i left the path too late and ended up getting to woods about 100m left of marker posts, but should be easily rectified next time. Can't wait to have another go, it was such a great route, takes in all the local landmarks, and it's really interesting, constant changes of terrain make it seem shorter than it is.
Hope you get de-crocked soon..