Steve is going to reccy the route anyone else interested:D
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Steve is going to reccy the route anyone else interested:D
Or if anyone else fancies it a week after, I'm having a little plod round on Friday 12 March...?
As long as we make it back to Stair for about 16:30 I'll be there :D (on nights)Quote:
Originally Posted by wynn
If anyone from down my way is up for it then il do it
Working on the 5th, but the 12th is doable so I might take you up on that mud.
Just realised it's the Haworth Hobble on the 13th, so maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oven Gloves
What time is steve setting off Wynn?Quote:
Originally Posted by wynn
Yes, I'd be interested in joining him, provided I could keep up. It would be ideal training for my BG attempt.
Leaf
does TWA stand for the the waltz anniversary?
Teenager with alititudeQuote:
Originally Posted by Man from Del Monte
Don't know why I asked for a time when I didn't know the date:oQuote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
I'm down to do it but don't know my way round the new bit. Figuring on 27th Feb maybe or possibly 10th/11th March. Limited for other dates until early April. What dates can steve do?
I don't know, but does it come as a surprise that it was Bush who coined the expression The War Against Terror?Quote:
Originally Posted by Man from Del Monte
Early...Quote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
Where you commin' from....?Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
ManchesterQuote:
Originally Posted by wynn
May be up for this, certainly need to recce it....but put in Pendle entry next day so I'm not sure.
We'll be going around again at some point - it's a great tough route Rich, I'll drop you a line when if you fancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr1470
I am so looking forward to all the Anniversary Waltz races it will be a great day.
Leaving Wickergill at 9'ish - Newlands before 10..... veggie soup/tea at newlands hause
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Originally Posted by wynn
You're too soft on him :D
See you Friday
Ooops, no I'm not. Got my dates wrong, can't do complicated things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mud
It's actually this Friday 5th I'm up there. Bent my knee the wrong way on the moors on Sunday though, so I will just be shuffling round the course before it gets dark.
That'd be great Huw. Can't do this Friday after all, so if you do another recce, let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Huw
Have fun on Friday!
Wynn,
Have sent you a PM.
Five of us did this in much better than expected conditions. Steve, Baggins, Cookie, Rob and myself. Great company.
Definitely some better lines to take than others in the first half. Hope I can remember all the advice.
Think I'm happy all the way to Grassmoor. From there to Robinson is 'interesting' and I'll be hoping to go around again before the day.
Lots of snow still around a little higher up and reckon the course will look quite different on race day.
We all agreed this could be a right tricky so-and-so in low cloud.
Start to finish was 5:50, stopping at Newlands Hause for Wynn's homemade soup and cake - god bless her!
As I was unable to make it on the 5th, I went round the route on my own on Sunday in glorious weather. Really enjoyed it, although it might have been even better if I'd had a cup of tea at Newlands Hause!
Leaf
Well the direct off Grasmoor is a no go, from Whiteless Pike I could "see" a trod across the scree but it never turned up when I got there :DQuote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
Yes. It may become more obvious when there's no snow about. The way we took didn't seem too bad though.
There was no snow there :D the way we went was the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
Did the trod from High Spy again, if in doubt take the lower line, flipping hell what a fast route my legs couldn't keep up :eek:
Baggins,
Thought I was going to have to be somewhere else on saturday but it may be cancelled now.
Do you fancy another shufty round TWA if so?
I'm working on Saturday so won't be able to make it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
If you do go round try Causey direct as thats the way the Causey Pike race goes :o ie up Rowling End.
11th april for another go round....
I had a trot around the TWA on Monday. Great route, but not easy by any means.
I think I could probably find a better line onto Grasmoor summit as I just stuck to the tourist path from Coledale Hause.
Coming off Whiteless Pike was where I dropped a cod though. I think I should have went left and descended Bleak Rigg then contoured Knott Rigg to Newlands Hause but I didn't go left early enough. I stayed on Whiteless Breast too long and had to descend to Sailbeck where Swinside Gill joins it then just went straight up from there and ran about 150 metres on the road to Newlands Hause.
Not getting that bit right has bugged me so much that I'm going back on Friday to do the whole lot again* :D
* not to mention the concern over making the cut off :o
I've 'aimed' for Bleak Rigg from the top of Whiteless, cutting through the gap(s) in the wall before dropping down to the valley floor before contouring Knott Rigg as suggested.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oven Gloves
Good luck, it's one heck of a route.
On the OS 1:2500 map from Coledale going up the East side of Grasmoor take the line about midway between the green right of way (there is no path on the ground) and the path to the North (this does exist)Quote:
Originally Posted by Oven Gloves
If the clag is down just trend slightly to the right as you climb and you will come across the Northern path which goes all the way to the summit.
On one of our recces someone went down Whiteless Breat but joined the path going up the North side of Swinside Gill and there wasn't much in it.Quote:
Coming off Whiteless Pike was where I dropped a cod though. I think I should have went left and descended Bleak Rigg then contoured Knott Rigg to Newlands Hause but I didn't go left early enough. I stayed on Whiteless Breast too long and had to descend to Sailbeck where Swinside Gill joins it
I'll be going down Bleak Rigg ;)
It's a brilliant route and I'm definitely going round again tomorrow only this time armed with the Pete Bland race map so I will hopefully choose some better lines than last Monday. I'm useless without anyone to follow :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Huw
Had another go off whiteless pike and went down bleak rigg this time (without the snow). Too steep. Think I prefer whiteless breast option.
Had another go at this today and did much better than last Monday. Even made Newlands Hause with 15
minutes to spare so should hopefully be a bit quicker than that on the big day :D And yes, Bleak Rigg is steep :eek:
but it's a better bet than Whiteless Breast IMO.
Aah well...good luck to you and god help me. Several interesting route choices; outerside to coledale hause, this one, high snock rigg to robinson and the usual anniversary waltz ones.
Got a good idea of what I want to do, whether I'll have the courage to stick to it on the day is another question.
You'll be reet man no need to worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
You're right about the route choices mind, but I'm going to stick to the ones I took on my recces as I know they work for me. If anyone wants to follow me they can though it's likely there will be no-one behind me to do so :D
Had a nice recce as far as Newlands Hause today.After looking at the map and reading the above comment, was fairly convinced I'd be heading down Whiteless Breast as well.....but actually that's not a bad descent at all down Bleak Rigg, made better (for me) by following the path to the first rocky drop then trending left on a good grassy line.Quote:
Originally Posted by God's oddment
Otherwise, the route was an absolute cracker with the odd choice to make...Outerside to Coledale Hause, the race map suggests dropping right down to the path, I went up and over the crags...not much in it I'd reckon.
Pretty much walked it all until Grasmoor (trying not to trash the legs for the weekend), trotted from then on, pausing to look for best lines on the way down....and was about 2 mins over cut-off....so pleased to say it won't be a problem on the day as long as nothing major goes wrong!