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Not sure if this fits in 'Health' or 'Equipment' but, Jelly Babies are a perenial favourite of fellrunners; they usually have bovine gelatine in them so are unsuitable for vegetarians. Does anybody know if veggie friendly 'Babies are available and, if so, are they any good?
http://www.scrumptioussweets.co.uk/p...lly-Bears.html
A bear not a baby, but same thing. Perhaps a baby bear? Beggar it, you know what I mean...
Not too sure. However, I have just bought some Natural Confectionery Company Dino Mix today ! I compared the ingredients to the Jelly Babies & there seemed to be less ingredients in them. However, they do still have bovine gelatine in them. I'll let you know how they perform on my 18 miler this afternoon !:D
Now your talking, No more JB's for me only CC's Squirms Try those Jez Wow!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Alas they too have Bovine gelatine, Sorry lola:(
Squirms ? Are these for pleasure or as a running aid Ian ? Or both ?? They're on my list !
JB's always leave a "claggy" taste in my mouth !
Oh my!!!
Loads of lovely stuff to ruin my health with - thank you very much for the link, 'bears on their way already.
Wine Gums for me as they don't have that slightly powdery nature of jelly babies.. Think they've still got bovine gelatine though.
If you don't mind spending a bit more, Sharkies energy sweets are excellent.
I can confirm, following my windy 12 miler over Ilkley & Burley Moor yesterday, that Natural Confectionery Company Dino Mix are a much better mid run snack than Jelly Babies. No claggy aftertaste & a nicer, more natural flavour. Case closed. :p
Except for the wind issue:eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Aren't all sweets the wrong type of sugar, as in not isotonic so not ideal to assimilate? Ok for munchies though i suppose.
Let's not get too technical Mr.B, they just taste good ! Although, I have to agree, I have been told to take them only in the last 20 mins of a long run.
It's not an Isotonic issue more a complex/simple sugar issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
JB's, bears, squirms et al are simple sugars which hit the system quickly and give a Sugar high followed shortly afterwards by a corresponding Low. Theya re good for trickle feeding aslong as you keep eating them and/or just as you run out of energy at the end.
I try and take mine alongside Fruit bars, jels, rice pudding;) energy bars(Complex Sugars) etc between the two you get slow and fast release targeting the time you need a boost i.e big climb.
You can slow the release of simple sugars by adding fat I believe.(honey/jam sandwich, buttered of course).
Dont worry about the energy boost, sugars, release rates etc, as a mate of mine says - 'a bag full of morale'. Probably just goes to show that endurance is 90% attitude, 10% fitness?
I did read somewhere that one jelly baby provides enough calories for appx 2 minutes running. I usually have a couple every hour or so......
Do you really take rice pudding along on runs? Please tell me how.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I've read that sugars don't cause an insulin surge and crash if you only start eating them after warming up. Does anyone know if this is true? I think adding fat slows down digestion, but too much. You don't want to be eating stuff on a run that you'll still be digesting next day at work. And the distinction in carbs is not between simple and complex, but where they come in the glycaemic index. This is very complicated - who would have thought that boiled potatoes give you a faster rush than bananas?
I'm wondering if one of those squeezy plastic bottles of honey you can buy in supermarkets, perhaps half full, would work on a long run. I'm certainly not taking cold boiled potatoes.
Dates.
Yes, dates, but do they go down alright while actually running? Hard to run with one's teeth stuck together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grouse
not on races but on long multi hour runs yes, you can can those little pots, also with mixed fruit, I like potatoes boiled with mint then coated in butter and salt left to cool. a few in a zip lock plastic bag. they go down well and are a relief after haours of sweet stuff and cold roasties :D yumQuote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra
On a long run I think you'll find jam butties will be absorbed quite quickly. When Joss broke the peninne way record that what he ate (Honey Butties)
when I did my BG I had a can of cold rice pudding at every stop
Jelly babies in batter, anyone?Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
Or maybe some nice jelly scratchings to deal with salt issues as well?
Granny knows best, nothing like a jam sandwich with butter.
In my experience 20 odd years ago, runners carried raisins, dates or dried figs, washed down with beck water. Cold rice pudding would be served up at about the 20 mile point or half way on very long runs.
I, too, remember reading many years ago that the dreaded insulin surge happened before or early on in a run but that once you were say an hour into a run your body just took the sugar and used it, like Kendal mint cake. A bugger to eat whilst running though.
But then marathon runners 100 years ago would think nothing of running the route the day before the race and arsenic was seen as a good stimulant.
I once had a battered mars bar....i nearly threw up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mud
I tried an experiment on a long distance race this last weekend - a baby food manufacturer has started selling pureed banana (no added nasties at all, just fruit) in a squeezable sachet almost identical to energy gel packaging. So I bought a couple from Tesco and tried them out. Worked a treat. Whipped them out of the hip pocket, squeezed them down, no need for peeling, chewing etc. Highly recommended, if a little unorthodox and a bit embarassing to write about on here:o
That's what the guy in the tri shop where i get my gels from said actually, sugars from sweets give you a buzz promptly followed by a downer. I was never running properly for long enough to experiment with energy rich treats of whatever sort on runs before my ITBS kicked in; i'm doing shorts now so i just roll out of bed, scratch my ar$e, force a can of Ambrosia down and hit the road :rolleyes:.Quote:
Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak
I used to carb load 36hrs before a long race but it probably wouldn't have made much difference if i'd have eaten pizza for two days, my body burns energy so fast. I used up 3 gels on last years Grizedale Horseshoe and managed to bonk on the way down St Sunday Crag, and that was with a large brown pasta meal previously plus breakfast in the cafe that morning.
I like your salty potatoes thing Ian, presumably this is to replace lost minerals? I took to wiping the sweat off my face and licking my hand from time to time
If you like jelly sweets, jelly tots are vegaterian. Just the bog standard ones from local shops. I use them on open 5 races.
Not really although it will help it's just a different tast/texture. I must admit though I do crave them near the end of long races.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Ps sending You a PM
Embarrasing? Not if it works it isn't!. Go on then - who makes them and where can you buy them, sounds worth a try to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
I get bored of sweet things and find a pork pie goes down a treat.
It did work very well...22 mile fell race, ran better than ever. Just the right energy boost at the right time. Didn't have to stop running to get it down, just took it on board like a gel or drink from a squeezy sachet. No added ingredients or gunk to mess with your system, just 100% organic pureed fruit.Quote:
Originally Posted by COUGAR
Here's the link;
http://www.ellaskitchen.co.uk/
I used the banana & apple sachets (about a 70/30 composition).
On sale at most major supermarkets apparently (on offer at Tesco), and on the website there are lots of links to buy online too.:)
They do a pureed beef stew if that floats your boat...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by skennaugh
Thanks for the tip Simgreen ! Just bought 6 from Asda. 4 banana & apple & 2 banana with powdered brown rice (I think that's what it said !). I struggle to get the gels down, so this will be an interesting experiment. I'll take a couple on my 17 miler tomorrow & report back !
Please do, I'd be interested to know what others think...the banana and rice one sounds a good idea...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
I'm going to remember this, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
That's what I thought. Perfect after the 1st hour of an off road marathon. I think they'll be in my waist pack for the Blubberhouses 25 !
I'd be interested to hear how the "Stage 2" babyfood goes down. Apparently got lumps in. Maybe not so good for old and toothless fell runners.
The "Lovely Lamb Roast Dinner" sounds lovely, or am I just the ad man's dream.
I hope the lamb roast dinner come with Yorkshire puds.
Thanks for the info - I'll give some a try. There used to be something very similar, (including the packaging) that you could buy amongst the snacks etc in supermarkets, but they seemed to stop selling them a year or two back. I used the first ones quite often, much tastier than a gel and the screw top meant that you could save some for later.
I'll be at Asda Tomorrow. Might try some. What dept are they in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Baby food department !!
that would explain why i've not seen them before:o it's been a few years since i picked any thing up from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Disposable nappies:eek: the very idea;)
Excellent! Glad they worked out for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jez Hellewell
Just noticed that they have a very long 'use by' date too so its possible to stock up on them.
Now who do I speak to at Ella's Kitchen about commissions?;)
Banana Baby Brekkie has to be the perfect complement to the Marmite cereal bars that have become long distance essentials for me:)
At this rate I'm going to eat better on the hoof than I do at home:D
Thanks for the tip simgreen