I am concerned about the number of Runners i meet who drink very heavily,
Is this A problem?
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I am concerned about the number of Runners i meet who drink very heavily,
Is this A problem?
Not at all.
One of my best ever runs came after a hangover (although i dont drink as im underage ;))
No problem - A Hydration and Pain killing solution all in one glass (well several glasses...);)
what sort of hangover then tom ?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
More seriously, there's a long association between decent beer and distance running, especially on the fells. It's about 94% water with electrolytes, vitamin B12 complexes, a decent load of calories and, err, alcohol. It also comes with many centuries worth of social conditioning about relaxation and good company.
You don't get that from a plastic bottle of Tesco's finest spring water.
Erm.....Coke and some extra stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by lookmanohands
"sniff, sniff" a coke hangover "sniff, sniff" clears the airways though:pQuote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
Last year went for a pub lunch, had steak and kidney pie, chips and three pints of landlord. It sat really heavy in my stomach, then went to Trunce in the evening and smashed my 4 year PB :eek::confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brotherton Lad
lmao...im staying off this thread before i tell everyone about my heroin addiction....oooooh ElektraQuote:
Originally Posted by lookmanohands
Interesting question Injury Advice.
I think you are proposing that runners might be more likely to drink excessivley compared to the average population due to a natural predisposition towards chemical dependency.
Whether its the endorphins from running, or alcohol, to the brain its just another fix.
I vaguely recall one anonymous forumite admitting having swopped one addiction for the other (the later one being running).
There must have been some studies on this?
This made me chuckle. In 'Feet in the Clouds' the Joss Naylor chapter refers to his dietary regimen in his heyday; what he ate, and what does he recommend etc. Its boils down to what is essentially a lot of cake and a lot of Guinness.
If its good enough for Joss, its good enough for me. :D
but do you do Joss' trainingQuote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
On a more serious note, I was reading an article a couple of weeks ago that was putting forward a link between pale ales and increased bone strength in runners. I'll try and find it again.
I have also heard mention of ale being of benefit to distance and fell runners as it assists in the release of a particular type of enzyme required to function more effectively during exercise. As i say I got that info third hand so can't be more specific.
Needless to say in light of the above, I did some serious training at the Ilkley Beer Festival a few weeks ago ;).
Also, please note the use of the word 'ale'. Not lager. Eeeuugh.:D
A mere technicality TT...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboTom
Grouse drinks Albmaleaf when he can't get hold of meths.
I think basically to be really good at anything you have to be focussed and obsessional. therefor if you really want to be a top class drinker you need to concerntrate on that alone and give up the running!
I prefer a Jack of all trades role ;):DQuote:
Originally Posted by Corniceman
I won a race in Devon in 82 after a good pub lunch. A bloke called Dan Archer (honest) presented me with a nice pewter tankard.
You can combine running and beer with Hash House Harriers, though it's more of an ex-pat thing.
I brew about 15 gallons a month and I rarely let anybody else have a whiff at it and I run about 150 miles a month, so that 10 miles to the gallon.
For me, anything more than three pints the night before has a real effect - almost more psychological than physical.
I always think as I set off on a run 'this is going to be so much harder than if I'd just stayed in last night'. But then I do enjoy a rollie with a pint so that probably makes it worse again.
Tonight I'm trying to force myself to stay in because I want to go for a long run in the morning, which I know will either go out the window or be hard work if I succumb and have a few. :o
oh and re. Joss, I don't reckon he supped that much Guinness during his racing days - I reckon the reality is he probably had two pints down the Ritsons bar at the end of a hard week's work as a treat and that was probably it.
Hmmm, now you mention it I was wondering when I'd start to see the benefit of this JN diet. I thought this extra eleven stone I've put on in the last six months was just fuel for the medium and long races but I'm starting to doubt its credentials...Quote:
Originally Posted by ZootHornRollo
and I've got to admit I was always a bit disappointed that Joss is a Guinness man, when he has the Great Gable brewery on his doorstep ....Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
I believe a few pints of real ale is beneficial for a run the next day, because it gives me beer energy :)
Not to mention the good feeling endorphins drinking the beer induces, thus giving a positive mood, which in turn helps you achieve greater objectives, which could be running faster and longer ;)
I strongly believe there isn't many other good feelings that come close to doing a long day on the fells, then getting stuck into your first pint of decent ale....it is pure satisfaction :)
Dont feel left out, ask if you can join them for a pint or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by injury advice
I agree with ukhursty, nothing like a good long run in the hills or a tough race followed by a some real ale, which doesnt equate to problem drinking.
Actually I think its a bit of a problem.
A few times now whilst on a hard run, the beer in my bottle has fizzed up and cause it to leak into my race sack.
:p
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well said! Drinking ale after runs is an entirely different matter :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ukhursty
Occasionally, one of my bottles falls over in the back of the car, disturbing the yeast sediment, but I can't say it's a major problem.
And, amazingly, I've found an American who agrees with the drift of this thread:
http://www.ontherunevents.com/news/selman/0007.sht
And as for Hashing:
The Constitution of the Hash House Harriers is recorded on a club registration card dated 1950:
To promote physical fitness among our members
To get rid of weekend hangovers
To acquire a good thirst and to satisfy it in beer
To persuade the older members that they are not as old as they feel
yes I had a problem with Alcohol after the skyline, I dropped a case of it going in to the village hall:(Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
It's nearly 5 o'clock, there's no Crackerjack. I'm feeling thirsty. Time to start the post-Edale, pre-Blubberhouses 25 hydration schedule.
Anyway, injury advice, what's your view on the subject?
IanDP, was it the mysterious Rescue Ale I've been told about, but have never seen? I'd have stayed longer if I'd known you were prone to dropping a case.
I did note that having a few pints did not seem to hinder Eddy Izard on his multi marathon travels. Anyway, I`ve not got time for this as I`m off to the pub.....
dull and boring, but everything in moderation.... except running and Thornbridge Jaipur!
I probably fall over more from running than drinking :D
I agree but if you follow this to it logical conclusion then...Quote:
Originally Posted by nikalas
everything in moderation; including moderation it's self. This means therefore, that at times there must be excess!
I wonder how many tee-total fell runners are reading this and not daring to put their heads above the parapet because heavy drinking is cool and manly.
You may have something there.Quote:
Originally Posted by simgreen78
I will put both hands in the air and admit I'm a poncey southern larger drinker. BUT my mate from Essex is not. In fact he has a penchant for Guinness and left an eight pack in my fridge on his last visit up here.
To cut to the chase, I ran out of lager and fancied a beer and was forced to try a Guinness, something that I haven't done for about 15 years. To my amazement I enjoyed it and have been making steady progress through the 8 pack over the last week.
What was the point to this? Ah yes, last night was my best hill session for ages, ran up two steep 'uns, no sorry sprinted up 'em, in the rain, in the mud, quickest I've ever done them and amazed myself.
Its got to be the Guinness.
I'm going to go and get one now.
Most runners I know aren't especially heavy drinkers but do enjoy a pint or two, that's all. Where's it say anything about heavy drinking?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra
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Originally Posted by Alexandra
Heavy drinking is not cool or manly, so tee-total runners are more than welcome to comment. My father was tee-total and I respected him greatly for it, so I feel I have no prejudices in that regard.
My serious point is that decent beer is very important to a lot of distance runners in terms of nutrition and relaxation. It's an important part of the culture in my opinion.
I'm also keen to hear what injury advice has to say,as I was worried he was about to start flogging a 12 step recovery programme to people who enjoy a pint or three after a hard race.
Once Set a course record After & good night out was still drunk at the start someone had to drive me to the race. 3years later Nick peach Broke it by 45 seconds Sober, Did me in for 3 days