Anyone have a online link for the distances/ascent allowed at each age group for juniors?
Links on fell junior site seem to be down
Cheers
Iain
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Anyone have a online link for the distances/ascent allowed at each age group for juniors?
Links on fell junior site seem to be down
Cheers
Iain
No rules on ascent
U/18-6m
U/16-4m
U/14-3m
U/12-m (i think-may be 2.5)
U/10 and U/8 not sure but think 1m and 1/2mile
RULE TEN
Race organisers must stipulate age limits for their events but the following maximum distance limits for
juniors must be observed.
Ages are as at 1st January in the year of competition.
For FRA Fell Races, the minimum age for competition is six years, and the following distance limits must
be applied.
Under 8 - ½ mile (0.8k)
Under 10 - 1 mile (1.6k)
Under 12 - 2 miles (3.2k)
Under 14 - 3 miles (4.8k)
Under 16 - 4 miles (6.4k)
Under 18 - 6 miles (9.6k)
For paired Mountain Marathon style orienteering events, over one or two days, where one of the two run-
ners is under 18, the other runner must be over 20 and must also be the parent or guardian of the junior
runner. The minimum age for the junior runner is 14, and the following straight line distance limits must
apply for each day of the event.
Under 16 - 12 miles (19.2k)
Under 18 - 15 miles (24.0k)
See Committee page on FRA website - Rules for Comp.
Try getting that across to stroppy parents who want their kid to run with his/her older mates in the next age category up; as we had at registration for the Hodder Valley Show last year!! A 17 year old's "parents" were full-on that he should run with his older mates in the Senior race ( Medium distance ) and he didn't even have any kit with him, as stipulated for medium length events in the FRA rules.
Junior races are essential for encouraging new blood into the ranks; and it's great to see the kid's enjoying their races. However, I help the organisers of 3 events that include junior races and it's always the pushy parents that prove to be a fly in the ointment!!
Yes I always dread the pushy parent but so far I've been very lucky. I did have a request for friends to run together. I suggested they run in the younger category at which point the older ones decided they could cope alone!
Mary
Grandparents can be pushy too - about ten years ago I remember one promising young lady who was put off running altogether by her tetchy Grandad moaning at her!
Thanks this info is very usful. I want to start a fun running club for my daughters, neice & some friends but wasn't sure on how far they should run. They have taken part in a 1.5k fun run & loved it but wanted to make sure they don't over do it. Their ages 3 upwards. I thought I do some fun stretching, teach how to run a nice pace & then some cool down stretches just once a week for now. I'm not qualified in anything but wanted to make sure I'm doing it right. Anything anybody wants to add?
This link might prove useful: Training although more geared to an older age group.Quote:
Originally Posted by BionicBetty
We get problems at the Club with parents wanting to push their kids into a "higher" group similar to running higher ages. No real answer but everyone needs to be consistent, don't let some do it and not others. BOFRA have a very strict rule not allowing kids to run in a higher age group race.
Don't forget that distances are maximums and that if the race is challenging then a race at the maximum distance for the age might be at the very limit for a normal club runner, especially older girls.
Regarding aged 3 upwards - until they are 9 or 10 I would just try and get them running around and having fun. No actual coaching.
Couldn't agree more; fun first every time. However, it's probably useful to be aware of limitations, things to avoid/look out for etc. with very young runners.Quote:
Originally Posted by wycoller
Oh it'll all be about having fun. No point otherwise:D
Iain,
UK Athletics have a stipulated height & distance table for juniors.
Sorry I don't have the address but the details are on SHR Website.
Regards,
Max.
Found it Iain, this is a portion quoted from SHR Website:Quote:
Originally Posted by IainR
Although the recommendations in the rest of this document only have the
status of guidelines, it is mandatory that the UK Athletics rules are followed in
anyscottishathletics permitted hill race. Rule 410 applies particularly to junior
hill races and reads as follows:
Race organisers must stipulate age limits for their events but the following limits
for younger runners must be observed:
a) The minimum age limit for competition is 6 years on the day of the race.
b) The maximum distances for younger runners shall be:
Ages on 1st January Maximum distance
in year of competition
Under 8 years I km
Under 10 years 2 km
Under 12 Years 3 km
Under 14 Years 5 km
Under 16 Years 6 km
Under 18 Years 10 km
3. Ascent and Descent3.1. The main factor that distinguishes hill racing from the other endurance
athletics disciplines is the significant ascent and descent involved. It is,
therefore, important that this element should be provided in all hill race
courses, including those designed for juniors. However, junior courses
should not place excessive physical demands on the participants. Melantee
and Glamaig are examples of excellent senior races which, although short
enough to qualify as U14 and U16 junior courses respectively under a literal
interpretation of UK Athletics Rule 410, are far too steep and demanding to
be suitable for these age groups.
3.2. The recommended guideline for junior courses is that the total amount
of ascent for up and down courses should be between 5% and 7.5% of the
length. For example, a course 2 km long should have between 100 m and
150 m of ascent whilst one 5 km long should have between 250 m and 375 m
of ascent. The ascent and descent should generally be spread throughout
the course so that the distinctive hill running character predominates.
Courses with a long flat run in to the hill will not generally be suitable for
junior hill races. If they have the recommended amount of ascent for their
length they are likely to be excessively steep on the hill section. If they do
not, they will be predominantly road races in character rather than hill races.4. Terrain4.1. It is recommended that junior courses should normally have marked
routes and should follow paths or reasonably straightforward terrain. Rugged
terrain with boulder fields, crags or excessively steep slopes should be
avoided.5. Course Combinations5.1. It will rarely be practicable or appropriate to provide a full range of
separate courses for all junior age groups. So long as the maximum lengths
set out in UKA rule 410 are not exceeded, courses can provide suitable
competition for a combination of age groups. In deciding how to combine
age groups, it is worth bearing in mind that boys and girls differ in how their
strength to weight ratio develops through their teens. It may, therefore, be
appropriate to provide shorter courses for girls than for boys in the U16 and
U18 age groups.
5.2. Two sets of course combinations are suggested in these guidelines.
One is suggested for events particularly aimed at juniors, for instance the
Scottish Junior Championships and the Junior Home International Trial. The
other is suggested for organisers of senior races wishing to provide a real hill
running experience for juniors without excessive additional course marking.
5.3. The suggested course combinations for up and down races aimed
particularly at juniors are as follows:
Age Groups Length (approx) Ascent (approx)
U12B, U12G, U10B, U10G 2 km 100 m
U14B, U14G 4 km 200 m
U16G 5 km 250 m
U16B, U18G 6 km 350 m
U18B 8 km 500 m
5.4 The suggested course combinations for junior up and down races held in
conjunction with senior races is as follows:
Age Groups Length (approx) Ascent (approx)
U12B, U12G, U10B, U10G 2 km 100 m
U14B, U14G, U16B, U16G, U18B, U18G 5 km (max) 300 m
It should be noted that this arrangement is designed to cater for the full range
of age groups with the minimum number of courses and inevitably results in
some compromises. This particularly applies to the course for U14 to U18
which will be at the long end of the acceptable range for the U14 competitors
and on the short side for the U18 boys. Inexperienced or weak U14
competitors should be advised that they may prefer to run the U12 course.
Strong U18 competitors may prefer to run the senior course and so long as it
does not exceed the 10km maximum specified in UKA rule 410 there is no
reason why they should not do so.
5.5 All advance information and details supplied to publishers of fixture
calendars should state the length and climb for each course provided and the
age groups appropriate to each course. For the example in paragraph 5.4
above, this would take the following form:
Long Junior: 5.0 km, 300 m U18B, U18G, U16B, U16G, U14B, U14G
Short Junior: 2.0 km, 100 m U12B, U12G, U10B, U10G6. Layout of Courses6.1 It is recommended that junior courses should be clearly marked on the
ground and that maps of the courses should be made available to
participants. The amount of marking can be minimised if courses share as
many common elements as possible. With a simple out and back course
design, it may be possible to use the same basic route for all courses with
turning points at different locations as required. It is quite common for senior
courses to start and finish with a flat section of a mile or so to and from the
hill. If junior courses are to be combined with this type of senior course, it
may be necessary to arrange a separate start and finish point closer to the
bottom of the hill.
Regards,
Max.
Thanks Peeejay
My inadequate brain has always found this difficult to understand
Rule 10 max distances for juniors
Under 8 - 1⁄2 mile (0.8k)
Under 10 - 1 mile (1.6k)
Under 12 - 2 miles (3.2k)
Under 14 - 3 miles (4.8k)
Under 16 - 4 miles (6.4k)
Under 18 - 6 miles (9.6k)
As anoother way of putting it am I right in thinking:
6 or 7 on race day - max of 1⁄2 mile (0.8k)
8 or 9 on race day - max of 1 mile (1.6k)
10 or 11 on race day - max of 2 miles (3.2k)
12 or 13 on race day - max of 3 miles (4.8k)
14 or 15 on race day - max of 4 miles (6.4k)
16 or 17 on race day - max of 6 miles (9.6k)
Is that right?
Hey Dan, ages are 1st Jan on year of competition for FRA, so if a 9 year old (on the 1st Jan)has a birthday on the 2nd of Jan, becomes 10 but is eligible for under 10 competition that year. Different competitions can have different dates on which age is taken eg Bofra which I believe is on the first race at Sedbergh in May 15ish, I think. Cross country races can vary too, some using school year or age on 1st September. And other races ( i think Grasmere, Dufton Pike) simply use age on day of race. Just to keep you on your toes!
For FRA junior races you can use the Age Group Calculator on this page.
I organise a couple of races and run a junior race alongside each.
Things that I think the kids like
and that work well for them.
- Being able to see the route and the "top" from the start.
- Starting with the main race. I ask the kids to line up towards the back of the pack and I ask the seniors to take care not to step on any little people.
- Junior route follows a portion of the senior route, out and back ( I take them to a turning pont and then bring them back the same way).
- Not too much climb, not too steep. avoid big long drags if possible.
- A wee choccy bar and a drink for everyone at the finish (Penguin bar and a Capri-Sun). Maybe even 2 or the winner.
- Lots of cheering and shouting them on.
- 20p entry fee so they can pay it from their pocket money if they want.