I understand from a Wharfedaler that there is a fell race at this show. Anybody know any details. i.e where;time;distance.I'm in Lakes next week and have a pass out to run on Saturday!
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I understand from a Wharfedaler that there is a fell race at this show. Anybody know any details. i.e where;time;distance.I'm in Lakes next week and have a pass out to run on Saturday!
http://www.loweswatercam.co.uk/031018_Buttermere.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by HUGH JARSE
Only info on t'web is on this link, and this date back to 2003..... looks like you missed it!
It used to be the 3rd Saturday in October, but they moved it to the 4th, so you should be ok still for next week. I've not been for a few years since they changed the start field, and I think they changed the race route too. It used to be a cracking little show though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steampig
http://www.keswick.org/whats-on/fest...meet-and-show/
it is the 23rd, can't find a race time though, I fancy this as can squeeze it in...
spoke too soon, fell race at 1pm, cracking!
http://melbreakcommunities.wordpress...meet-and-show/
now, anyone know the route? distance?
Last time I got to this show (a few years ago now) the route went from the showground, up and around the back of Whin Ben - a subsidiary summit of Whiteside -and back to the showground - distance 1 maybe 11/2 miles.
Hope this helps!
Didn't go. Had a blast up Ingleborough instead. Did anyone go?
yeah I went. Came third! Best result ever! (field of seven!) couple of wharfdalers there.
- Date & time: Sat 26th Oct 2013 at 14:00
- Country: England
- Region: Lake District
- Category: AS
- Website: c-f-r.org.uk
- Distance: 2.75km / 1.7m
- Climb: 300m / 984ft
- Venue: Lanthwaite Green, Buttermere.
- Grid ref: NY159212
- Skills & experience: PM, LK
- Minimum age: 17
This race may yet be cancelled. The shepherds meet has definitely been cancelled due to weather. The RO is deciding whether the race can continue without the show. Will post more when clear.
Hoping to still run the race.
More details tomorrow. Junior races unlikely.
Slight change of course.
Andrew
Buttermere Shepherds’ Meet Fell Race
Saturday the 26th October 2pm.
The organisers of the Shepherd’s meet have cancelled the show following heavy rain, and the promise of more to come.
I intend to still hold a race. The race will start at the published time of 2 pm.
The delay in the publication of the decision has been due to the fact that I have had to consult the National Trust and the farmers with hefting rights over the common and the fell.
Everyone has been very supportive and the race will go ahead as follows.
Junior Races : These will not go ahead, however I will accept junior runners in the race. The race is about 3km long, so under 14’s and older will be allowed to enter – provided their entry form is signed by their parent / carer. I hope some youngsters take the chance to compete against the older runners.
Car Parking : Will now be at the public car park at Lanthwaite Green grid reference NY 159 209. There is limited parking, but there are several large spaces nearby, and there is the possibility of parking cars along the road side carefully. We do rely on the support of the locals and the National Trust and I would ask people to take care to park in such a way that we minimize the opportunity for people to find fault in our parking. The car park is on the opposite side of the road to the race. Care must be taken when crossing the road.
The Route : Will head off across the common to the bridge across the stream, this may be flagged. The route is then the same as the race route, up over Whinn Benn and onto the turning crag. Because of the new start and finish area, there will be a taped route on part of the way back which will prevent runners racing down the steepest part of the path that competitors are using to ascend. This start of the taped route will also be marshalled. Runners will then re-cross the bridge and enjoy the sprint over the well cropped grass of the common to the finish. Please do not try to cross the river without the bridge. At the time of writing it is quite full.
Entry Fee : The entry to the race will be free ( see prize giving )
Prize giving : There will be one and I hope to have it as soon as possible – 3:15 by the latest? We will operate a “bring a prize to win a prize” policy. When you register drop off a prize in the large collection of prizes that have already been assembled. Suggestions include bottles of wine, beers, chocolates etc.
Looking forward to seeing people on Saturday afternoon. The weather forecast looks like we may get a rain free race.
Andrew Bradley
Only a month to go
And for those that have been out checking the best lines..... the Shepherds' Meet has moved into Buttermere village.
The meet itself is reducing its commitment to tents, and focusing on the core business of Herdwicks. They are still very keen to have fell races. The new meet will take place in the field out of the back of the café ( the one where registration for the Buttermere Sailbeck race takes place ). There will be parking available at the Meet field - entry £3 per car. There should also be parking available in the National Trust car park or on Newlands pass. Race entry is free.
Registration will take place in a trailer in the field at the meet. However the start and finish will be on the other side of the road ( using the field that the Buttermere Sailbeck race finishes in GR NY 175 171). It is only two minutes away from registration.
It will be an out and back race. The turning point will be top of Whiteless Breast at about NY 182 181. The distance is about 2.8Km with about 300m of climb. The going is generally very fast, with very good conditions under foot, with a small rocky section which can be avoided. It will be a very fast race. The pub will be open.
Please pass this message on to anyone you suspect is hoping to race.
Andrew Bradley
Thanks to everyone who turned up, and to those who helped out.
New course, third new course in three years.
results up http://www.c-f-r.org.uk/node/3223#attachments
Thanks to all who helped on this little beauty.
Cracking event, well worth the travel.
Quick results too.
Well done all.
Excellent course - fantastic descent enjoyed every minute. well done to all especially Jenny on top of the hill
A great set of photo's here. Many thanks to Paul.
http://www.fellrunner.net/
really enjoyed running on Saturday - thank to the organisers
Garmin trace: 0.8 miles up - pretty much a straight line - in 12 minutes, then back the same way in another 5
and beautiful sheep on display at the Shepherd's Meet
Thanks to all those who ran and helped at Buttermere today.
Hope you enjoyed the good looking sheep and the course.
Results are to be found at http://www.c-f-r.org.uk/
Buttermere Shepherds' Meet Fell Races.
Are taking place this year.
Sunday the 24th of October. Juniors ( U13/15 race at 10:30 ). Seniors at 11:30.
There is a new venue. It has moved from Buttermere village to Gatesgarth farm.
Full details are on the club website https://c-f-r.org.uk/.../race_butter...erds_meet.html
Its going to be a classic. 5.25 Km with 600 m of climb. All grassy/pathy, not much rocky. Clearly quite steep.
All those days in lockdown, bemoaning the lack of fun things to do? How you promised to get out and race? This is what you have been waiting for.....
Trying to work this out. With 600m of climbing from the valley bottom, Fleetwith Pike and Hay Stacks are not high enough, Robinson and High Crag are too high. Of course, that 600m may be a very rough estimate.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew B
I think it goes up Robinson which looks to be about 620m ascent.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonykay
Robinson it is.
Uses what I am led to believe might be an old peat cutters track ( this needs checking )
Fleetwith was considered- but itÂ’s very steep, with some big crags and a cross at the bottom of one where someone called Fanny came to grief many years ago.
There have been routes that used Warnscale as a descent but, it is quite rough.
This will be the third different route of this race as they keep moving the shepherd meet venue. Quite different in character to the previous venue.
Weather looks even better than last year's race. Full details on the Cumberland Fell Runners website
https://c-f-r.org.uk/pages/race_butt...erds_meet.html
Note the venue moved to Gatesgarth.
Thanks to everyone who helped and turned up to run or support at today's Buttermere Shepherds' Meet race. I might have missed a couple of thanks at prize giving?
Registration / results - Mel Bradley, Alison Whitehurst, Hannah Barber, Nic Barber
Top of Robinson - Jim Davis and Graham Watson
Keeping the beasties in the correct field - Darren Parker
Finish Recorder - Steve Parker
Stopwatch - Sam Holding
Results Runner - Tony Jewell
Second safety check - Pip Menai
Tea urn safety supervisor - Alison Whitehurst
The results are attached, on the FRA website and will be imminently on the CFR website
Andrew
This year's race is on Sunday 29th of October. Full details on the CFR website.
https://c-f-r.org.uk/pages/race_butt...erds_meet.html
Third time from this venue. Hasn't been run in anything other than rain......
I think i'm coming over for this, it looks like a good tough race. The record seems a lot quicker than i would have expected, that probably means it's a good runnable descent with route choices. I've spotted the potential for a short cut on the way back down that follows the line of a small beck and picks the trod up a way below cutting off a corner. There seem to be crags around, though...
Results from the 2023 races are now on the FRA website results section.
https://www.fellrunner.org.uk/
Buttermere Shepherds' Meet Fell races 2024
Sunday the 27th of October 2024.
We have added another Junior race to complete the set.
Full details on the Cumberland Fell Runners' website https://c-f-r.org.uk/pages/race_butt...erds_meet.html
Thankyou for supporting the forum, Andrew. I've been meaning to get to this one, I've a feeling it's a good descent with options on lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew B
It is indeed a decent descent......worth coming this year as the forecast suggests that we might actually be able to see.
I'm heading over for this one in the morning, weather looks clear and bright. I've been looking at the hillside on goggle earth trying to locate a possible descent line that cuts off the corner at the top of the sheep trod. It looks like cutting the corner lower down isn't on due to crags and heather, the only route that appears vaguely trouble free is the fully committed, do or die, all eggs in one basket southerly line taken shortly after the gradient flattens and you're clear of the scree banks below the summit plateau. So you either follow the herd or go for an adventure. I'm not sure how easy it will be to pick the course back up again further down near 'lambing knots', it could be lumpy with poor visibility to the east, but there are two becks that meet in a fork to guide you. I'll probably come last covered in gorse scratches like the time I screwed up at bofra kirk fell.
Goggle earth - like it! I have used it in the past but have not found it any more helpful than a decent map. Have you had a look at the Strava heat map for the area? Good luck with whatever descent route you take.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
Strava? I don't have that.
Anyway, I've seen most of the gorse patches on Robinson now, I should have taken a peris-pooter with me and collected some bug specimens for the children to examine, I was moving so slowly I'd have had the time. At the stile there were a wide variety of lines being taken, some very westerly, so I was confident of finding a route. I stayed close to the fence for a bit and decided to try the path alongside it, but it was awful. Loose and rocky with sharp blade like sections of bedding plane sticking up, your studs would just slip down the grooves and you'd go flying. I left the path onto some spongy stuff and identified some people in front who were staying right, I went left having spotted a nice grassy chute which I hoped was one of the gullies. It just led me into a thicket of crags and gorse; there were old gorse branches everywhere and a trip would have resulted in severe pain. I just had to negotiate it at walk and try and find a way out. I got through it only to find d myself in tall heather, but found a sheep trod over to the right which led me back to the race route. I went round to the right of the junior turn, which was a straighter line, only to find more gorse and crags. There was a guy on my tail by this point, having gone the right way he'd caught me up and the two I'd seen further up were having cake in the shed. I decided not to charge through the dead bracken as my pursuer chose to do, and stuck to a route I'd chosen earlier. This was my only good line of the race and after I'd knocked a notch on over the pasture to the finish the other guy was miles away. My calves died on the way up and my quads on the way down, so not a very strong race. The course is great though, a real gem of a race, good terrain and route choices are wide open, I'll have to come back to do it properly.
You remind me of this poem Mr B.
The Road Not Taken By Robert Frost
Two roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
On the race website route map, under the yellow, there is a path going off left (on the descent) roughly halfway down from Checkpoint 1/stile to Kirk Close - there is a very similar "hot" line on Strava global heat map - is this way down not viable? It would seem many people use it, though not necessarily in the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside
It's viable, but really you want to be cutting off that corner. The problem is crags on a narrow cut, and as i found out, crags/gorse/heather/peril on a wide cut. The narrow cut will work for you if you find the right gully, which is what i'll be doing next year, gorse can't grow in running water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike T
I had a look at the Strava trace of one of the Ambleside lads - he went to the halfway point I mentioned and then basically headed south - so no attempt to cut that corner. Interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr brightside