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Fantasy Fellrunning 2011
So who wants to take part in the Fantasy Fellrunning competition this year?
Newcomers very welcome!
The rules are the same as last year:
You must select a team of four runners. At least one has to be a man and at least one has to be a woman.
However you only have a few pints of Black Sheep with which to bribe runners into joining your team, and each runner costs a certain number of those pints to join your team.
There are 3 leagues:
The "Timothy Sheep Daleside league" comprises teams from the top managers of last year:
Another Team, BillJ, GeoffB, Inspector Gadget, PaulJonesforEngland, Weetabix Power, Derby Tup, So Wood, Also Ran, BGSec, Pigtails, IanDarkPeak, Wynn.
The TSD teams each have 15 pints with which to select a team.
Then there's the "Boddington-Smith league" for the next tier of managers:
Samt, Multiterrainer, Lost in the Clouds, Bad Magners, Stagger, Dew Class Lassalle, Feet in the Cowclaps, Fnstein, Socks, Jellybaby, Maloni, Mr Brightside, Dux de Lux, Saz, Inov-8 Insider, Al Fowler, Johnny Foreigner, Dominion, Turbo Tom, Marrow, Morning Glory, Stentifrog.
The BS teams each have 14 pints with which to select a team.
Finally the "Kaliber league" will comprise teams from these managers:
Leeds Rhino, NirvanaBliss, Tomcee, Ady in Accy, Tallpaul, Runway, TheHell I Will, Fellgazelle, Mrs Stagger, Duff, IainR, Eleanor, Flightless Bird, Green Flash, Biara, Spring Heeled Jack, Noel, Bo Peep, Penguin - plus anyone who joins the game this year.
The K teams will each have 13 pints with which to select a team.
At the end of the year there will be promotion and demotion between the leagues.
From the date that you select them, your runners score points at every race in the English or British championships:
1 point just for finishing the race;
20 points for the 1st man, down to 1 point for the 20th man;
20 points for the 1st lady, down to 1 point for the 20th lady;
8 points for the 1st male vet, down to 1 point for the 8th male vet;
8 points for the 1st lady vet, down to 1 point for the 8th lady vet;
Points are cumulative.
In addition, your runners will score points at the Lakeland Classics and also the Midsummer Madness weekend(*).
These additional races don't score as many points as the national championships, though:
1 point just for finishing the race;
10 points for the 1st man, down to 1 point for the 10th man;
10 points for the 1st lady, down to 1 point for the 10th lady;
4 points for the 1st male vet, down to 1 point for the 4th male vet;
4 points for the 1st lady vet, down to 1 point for the 4th lady vet;
During the year you can make 2 substitutions - either swap 2 of your runners for another pair who cost the same total number of pints, or twice swap one of your runners for another one of the same pintage.
Anyone who puts in a team late (i.e. after the first championship race) will only be allowed one substitution during the year, and will not score points for races that have already happened!
There will also be a cup-style knockout competition for all teams, as we've done for the last couple of years.
So post your team of four to this thread, with a team name.
My next two posts will list the runners in the pub and how many pints they'll cost you.
(*) Midsummer Madness: the weekend counts as a single race for FF points, with everyone's best result from the weekend in one combined list, whether they do one race, two races or all three.
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men
Lloyd Taggart : 10 pints
Darren Kay : 9 pints
Rob Hope : 8 pints
Ian Holmes : 7 pints
Karl Gray : 7 pints
Rob Jebb : 7 pints
Danny Hope : 6 pints
Graham Pearce : 6 pints
Jim Davies : 6 pints
Morgan Donnelly : 6 pints
Andy Davies : 5 pints
Ben Abdelnoor : 5 pints
Mark Palmer : 5 pints
Chris Steele : 4 pints
John Heneghan : 4 pints
Mark Roberts : 4 pints
Pete Vale : 4 pints
Ricky Lightfoot : 4 pints
Simon Bailey : 4 pints
Simon Booth : 4 pints
Steve Hebblethwaite : 4 pints
Tim Davies : 4 pints
Ben Bardsley : 3 pints
Gary Devine : 3 pints
John Hunt : 3 pints
Jon Morgan : 3 pints
Matt Speake : 3 pints
Paul Thompson : 3 pints
Robbie Simpson : 3 pints
Stuart Bond : 3 pints
Tom Owens : 3 pints
Andrew Schofield : 2 pints
Andrew Symonds : 2 pints
Andy Peace : 2 pints
Brian Marshall : 2 pints
Chris Birchall : 2 pints
Craig Roberts : 2 pints
Ian Nixon : 2 pints
John Atkinson : 2 pints
John Brown : 2 pints
Martin Shaw : 2 pints
Mike Fanning : 2 pints
Richard Pattinson : 2 pints
Richard Roberts : 2 pints
Shaun Godsman : 2 pints
Stephen Cunningham : 2 pints
Stephen Pyke : 2 pints
Alex Whittem : 1 pint
Andrew Wrench : 1 pint
Ben Mounsey : 1 pint
Chris Reade : 1 pint
Chris Smale : 1 pint
Dan Whitehead : 1 pint
Dave Taylor : 1 pint
Des Woods : 1 pint
Es Tresidder : 1 pint
Gavin Mulholland : 1 pint
James Logue : 1 pint
Jon Wright : 1 pint
Jonathan Deegan : 1 pint
Lee Athersmith : 1 pint
Leigh Warburton : 1 pint
Matt Reedy : 1 pint
Matthew Hulley : 1 pint
Matthew Roberts : 1 pint
Mike Johnson : 1 pint
Mike Robinson : 1 pint
Nick Leigh : 1 pint
Nick Sharp : 1 pint
Paul Cornforth : 1 pint
Robert Little : 1 pint
Simon Stainer : 1 pint
Stephen Bottomley : 1 pint
Stewart Whitlie : 1 pint
Tim Austin : 1 pint
Tim Edward : 1 pint
Tim Werrett : 1 pint
Tom Brunt : 1 pint
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ladies
Helen Fines : 8 pints
Jackie Lee : 8 pints
Lauren Jeska : 8 pints
Alison Raw : 7 pints
Jo Waites : 7 pints
Fiona Maxwell : 6 pints
Nicky Spinks : 6 pints
Pippa Maddams : 6 pints
Tracey Greenway : 6 pints
Hazel Robinson : 5 pints
Jane Reedy : 5 pints
Judith Jepson : 5 pints
Liz Batt : 5 pints
Mary Wilkinson : 5 pints
Olivia Walwyn : 5 pints
Victoria Wilkinson : 5 pints
Angela Mudge : 4 pints
Anna Bartlett : 4 pints
Anne Johnson : 4 pints
Natalie White : 4 pints
Pippa Wilkie : 4 pints
Sandra Cooper : 4 pints
Anna Lupton : 3 pints
Catherine Evans : 3 pints
Catriona Buchanan : 3 pints
Christine Howard : 3 pints
Clare Whitehead : 3 pints
Deborah Wright : 3 pints
Emma Clayton : 3 pints
Gill Myers : 3 pints
Helen Berry : 3 pints
Helene Whitaker : 3 pints
Jo Buckley : 3 pints
Julie Carter : 3 pints
Karen Davison : 3 pints
Kate Jenkins : 3 pints
Lisa Lacon : 3 pints
Lizzie Adams : 3 pints
Maureen Laney : 3 pints
Mel Price : 3 pints
Nicola Meekin : 3 pints
Phoebe Webster : 3 pints
Polly Gibb : 3 pints
Sarah May : 3 pints
Wendy Dodds : 3 pints
Alwynne Shannon : 2 pints
Andrea Rowlands : 2 pints
Charlene Haugh : 2 pints
Elke Schmidt : 2 pints
Emma Barclay : 2 pints
Jane Leonard : 2 pints
Jenny Hemming : 2 pints
Jill Mykura : 2 pints
Karen Alexander : 2 pints
Kate Cooper : 2 pints
Kirstin Bailey : 2 pints
Laura Gibson : 2 pints
Louise Roberts : 2 pints
Lynne Clough : 2 pints
Mary Gillie : 2 pints
Rachel Vincent : 2 pints
Sally Newman : 2 pints
Sarah McCormack : 2 pints
Sarah Ridgway : 2 pints
Tamara Hird : 2 pints
Zanthe Wray : 2 pints
Alison Eagle : 1 pints
Anna Forrest : 1 pints
Beverley Chapman : 1 pint
Britta Sendlhofer : 1 pint
Christina Rankin : 1 pint
Christine Preston : 1 pint
Gayle Sugden : 1 pint
Heather Dawe : 1 pint
Heather Marshall : 1 pint
Helen Garrett : 1 pint
Helen Gilbert : 1 pint
Helen Lambert : 1 pint
Helen Winskill : 1 pint
Holly Williams : 1 pint
Holly Williamson : 1 pint
Isaline Hughes : 1 pint
Jackie Redmayne : 1 pint
Jasmin Paris : 1 pint
Jean Brown : 1 pint
Jenny Caddick : 1 pint
Jess Nixon : 1 pint
Jo Gillyon : 1 pint
Jo Taylor : 1 pint
Karen Nash : 1 pint
Kath Brierley : 1 pint
Katrina Spinney : 1 pint
Louise Baker : 1 pint
Lucy Harris : 1 pint
Mel Hyder : 1 pint
Naomi Sharratt : 1 pint
Natasha Fellowes : 1 pint
Niki Morgan : 1 pint
Rebecca Law : 1 pint
Rowena Brown : 1 pint
Sarah Massey : 1 pint
Sarah Warburton : 1 pint
Sharon Bolister : 1 pint
Shileen O'Kane : 1 pint
Suzanne Budgett : 1 pint
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Here goes then Bill: (& thanks once again for sorting this out)
MT's Allstars in the B-S league:
Graham Pearce 6 pints
Natalie White 4 pints
Stuart Bond 3 pints
Ben Mounsey 1 pint
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Thanks Bill!
Fowlers Fantastic Four
Rob Jebb - 7pints
Stuart Bond - 3pints
Ben Mounsey - 1 pint (BARGIN!)
Emma Clayton - 3 pints
Total - 14 pints.
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B-S league
Team name = Why Keighley?
Graham Pearce - 6
Chris Steele - 4
Julie Carter - 3
Ben Mounsey - 1
Thanks again Bill
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Hello Bill, glad this is back! Here's my stab in the dark based on the entry list for Long Mynd:
The Brighty Bunch V2.0 for the BS League...
Lauren Jeska: 8
Gill Myers: 3
Tamara Hird: 2
Ben Mounsey: 1
Total 14, let the blagging begin! Cheers Bill.
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Tiggers Brown Vests will return for another season after our meteoric rise to the premiership. but who to choose? more pints to buy this year but the choice is hard.
in the end I've had to drop Nicky!!! sorry!
so I've gone with........
Lloyd Taggart 10 pints
Ben Mounsey 1 pint
Rhys Findlay Robinson 1 pint
Wendy Dodds 3 pints
15 point.
If Ben fails to score I'llbe round Al's with a base ball bat !! ;)
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Count me in..
Kunama Kings
Ian Holmes 7pints
Ben Mounsey 1 pint
Emma Clayton 3 pints
Andy Peace 2 pints
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Originally Posted by
IanDarkpeak
If Ben fails to score I'll be round Al's with a base ball bat !! ;)
Steady Tigger! :D
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I'm considering having myself for the dregs that can be wrung out of the beer mats at the end of the night:)
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New entry into the Kaliber League...
Speedo's Superflyers :
Gavin Mulholland : 1 pint
Ben Mounsey : 1 pint
Julie Carter : 3 pints
Helen Fines : 8 pints
Eat my shorts!
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is there any option to have a wildcard runner ie, one not named in the above lists? I assume not as it would make it much more complex, but worth asking.
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Bill, sorry but i've got a revision:
Ben Mounsey out and Rhys Findlay-Robinson in, who according to Ian's lineup is of equal value to Ben. Brighty Bunch V2.0 is now...
The Brighty Bunch V2.0 for the BS League...
Lauren Jeska: 8
Gill Myers: 3
Tamara Hird: 2
Rhys FR: 1
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TomsTurbos
Danny Hope-6
Jo Buckley-3
Mounsey-1
Pete Vale-4
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Originally Posted by
IanDarkpeak
Lloyd Taggart 10 pints
Ben Mounsey 1 pint
Rhys Findlay Robinson 1 pint
Wendy Dodds 3 pints
Ian (and Mr Brightside) - RhysFR wasn't on the list of runners. So I've worked out a price for him for 2011: 2 pints.
That means the Brighty Bunch are going to be on V2.3 after only a day!!
Superflyguy: let me know who you would like in your team, and I'll work out a price for them.
Some more runners for you all to choose from:
Oli Johnson : 3 pints
Prasad Prasad : 3 pints
Philip Sanderson : 2 pints
Rhys Findlay-Robinson : 2 pints
Simon Harding : 2 pints
Dave Aucott : 1 pint
Neil Northrop : 1 pint
Steven Cale : 1 pint
By the way, its OK to change your team, any time until the first race starts.
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Originally Posted by
BillJ
Ian (and Mr Brightside) - RhysFR wasn't on the list of runners. So I've worked out a price for him for 2011: 2 pints.
That means the Brighty Bunch are going to be on V2.3 after only a day!!
Sorry Bill, i should've asked for a price. It's like that when you're flying by the seat of your tracksters :thumbup: Ok, back to Mounsey then i think, so...
The Brighty Bunch V2.0 for the BS League...
Lauren Jeska: 8
Gill Myers: 3
Tamara Hird: 2
Ben Mounsey: 1
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for doing this again.
An entire new line up for me this year, partly due to last year's bunch failing to win promtion and partly because they all seem to be abroad or injured.
The lucky few chosen for Duff's Duffers this year are;
Pippa Maddams- 6 pints
Sarah May- 3 pints
Emma Clayton- 3 pints
James Logue- 1 pint
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[QUOTE=BillJ;393221]
Quote:
Ian (and Mr Brightside) - RhysFR wasn't on the list of runners. So I've worked out a price for him for 2011: 2 pints.
That means the Brighty Bunch are going to be on V2.3 after only a day!!
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Does that mean I now have to change my team after hours of agonising and indepth analysis?
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Noel's Nefarious Ne'er-do-wells.
Ben Abdelnoor 5
Mark Roberts 4
Wendy Dodds 3
James Logue 1
:)
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bill my team for this year is
team name Eweyrunrun
stuart bond
jon morgan
nicky spinks
ben mounsey
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WTF............... 9 pints for me Bill........... who's legs do you think I've borrowed.......you must have drunk all the pints yourself, it's not even worth picking myself now
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Team: Fabio Casartelli
Ben Mounsey 1pt
Emma Clayton 3pt
Chris Steele 4pt
Mark Palmer 5pt
Team Fabio Casartelli last made an appearance back in 2008 in the days of a single division with 44 teams. Now that'd make a busy Premier League schedule...
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kaliber league please.
team name: reu's racers
Rob jebb
jess nixon
angela mudge
christina rankin
thankyou
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Originally Posted by
Dew Claw Lassalle
WTF............... 9 pints for me Bill........... who's legs do you think I've borrowed.......you must have drunk all the pints yourself, it's not even worth picking myself now
Settle down Daz, he is not far off but I think 7 now that your a vet would have been a better price.
Mounsey is the bargin if he frames this season and Chris Steele is well in. Jebbey is not so bad as most are on his door step.
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Originally Posted by
Dew Claw Lassalle
WTF............... 9 pints for me Bill........... who's legs do you think I've borrowed.......you must have drunk all the pints yourself, it's not even worth picking myself now
Hi Darren. Its a long answer, but since you’ve asked... !
I’d seen that you’re in the Long Mynd entry list as a vet. So you're getting vet points this year. And you turn out to a lot of the championship races (as long as you don’t pick up an injury!) – last year the only person who competed in more national championship races than you was Lloyd Taggart.
For your first year as a vet you are going to be well motivated. So I think you are going to be worth a bucketload of points this year.
In order to decide on the number of pints for each runner, I make an estimate of how many points each person will earn in an average race, and how many races they will go to. As a vet, I’m guessing you will average similar points per race to Karl (19.8 per race.) You finished 8 champ races last year. I’ve put down 7 or 8 races for you this year, to be conservative. Plus a 50% chance of you coming to Midsummer Madness again (maybe you will be top scorer there again, or maybe it will be James Logue, since his dominance of Reservoir Bogs is peerless).
That comes to a total of 154 points you will earn any team that picks you, is my guess. That’s more than anyone is worth except Lloyd.
So 9 pints it is !!
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Bill,
that's a very in depth answer (but still mean!) at least nobody has picked me, so I have no pressure to gain points!
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New team in the Kaliber league please:
Team name - Fyurtez fellover
Ian Holmes - 7
Anna Bartlett - 4
Ben Mounsey - 1
Steve Cale - 1
Thanks!
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Hi Bill,
Joliver's army:
Chris Smale
Darren Kay
James Logue
Jenny Hemming
:)
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New entry into the Kaliber League please:
Team CatatoNic
Jon Morgan: 3 pints
Robert Little: 1 pint
Rhys FR: 2 pints
Emma Clayton : 3 pints
total: 9 pints! (I'd like to suggest putting Rob Little in as a women having seen him in a dress in the past...)
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Bill a change to my team please,
Llyod Taggart
Ben Mounsey
Neil Northrop
Christina Rankin
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Originally Posted by
TurboTom
TomsTurbos
Danny Hope-6
Jo Buckley-3
Mounsey-1
Pete Vale-4
Buckley out, Berry in
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Team name = Ernie the Dog
Judith Jepson - 5
Chris Steele - 4
Helen Berry - 3
Ben Mounsey - 1
Team as suggested by Stagger
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[QUOTE=IanDarkpeak;393252][QUOTE=BillJ;393221]
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Does that mean I now have to change my team after hours of agonising and indepth analysis?
Well do I ? :)
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[QUOTE=IanDarkpeak;395675][QUOTE=IanDarkpeak;393252]
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Originally Posted by
BillJ
Well do I ? :)
Naturally.
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Baker's Dozen this year -
Lloyd Taggart - 10
Matt Hulley - 1
Jon Coe - 1
Helen Elmore - 1
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[QUOTE=GreenFlash;395720][QUOTE=IanDarkpeak;395675]
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Originally Posted by
IanDarkpeak
Naturally.
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Originally Posted by
GreenFlash
Baker's Dozen this year -
Lloyd Taggart - 10
Matt Hulley - 1
Jon Coe - 1
Helen Elmore - 1
I reckon Helen could be a good buy if she does all the races
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[QUOTE=IanDarkpeak;395726][QUOTE=GreenFlash;395720]
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Originally Posted by
IanDarkpeak
I reckon Helen could be a good buy if she does all the races
Surely not attempting to inflate her price, Ian? Not sure if she'll be running any this year, but worth an initial punt.
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Originally Posted by
IanDarkpeak
Well do I ? :)
Of course !
Your team costs 16 pints and you only have 15 to spend !! :wink:
Quote:
Originally Posted by
GreenFlash
Baker's Dozen this year -
Lloyd Taggart - 10
Matt Hulley - 1
Jon Coe - 1
Helen Elmore - 1
Jon Coe is fine for a pint - I will add him to my list of runners.
But I don't have Helen Elmore in my spreadsheets of results. Has she done national championship races or lakeland classics in the last couple of years? Did she run under a maiden name perhaps?
Cheers, Bill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
BillJ
Of course !
Your team costs 16 pints and you only have 15 to spend !! :wink:
Jon Coe is fine for a pint - I will add him to my list of runners.
But I don't have Helen Elmore in my spreadsheets of results. Has she done national championship races or lakeland classics in the last couple of years? Did she run under a maiden name perhaps?
Cheers, Bill
it cost me 15 pints when I did it!:w00t:
I don't think Helen did any big races last year but you can check her out on the DP results page. I'd leave her at a pint though as GF will have another go at me.:rolleyes::confused: