Cold breasts

Yep. there you have it. I get cold breasts.

not just cold, it's like I've got an extremely painful chill right inside my breasts and no amount of hugging or warming myself up with extra clothes will get rid of it. I think it may be a combination of sweat making my bra wet and wind chill. but then I've had the same pain just training in the gym without being very sweaty and has also happened on walks. trouble is, I have to wear a really supportive bra - without one would bring on a totally different type of pain. I will try a different make of bra when I come to buy another one, but I'm loathed to do that right now having recently bought 3 at some considerable cost!

and i'm not just whinging about a bit of pain, its pretty much debilitating, takes all my concentration away from running, and I totally lose all enthusiasm and joy for the run. I've tried all sorts to prevent it or speed up recovery, even a long hot shower doesn't remedy it sometimes, it just seems to take a while (what seems like hours) to go.

anyone got any useful (decent, practical) suggestions?
anyone else suffering in silence?

Have you got a lightweight Pertex running top,if you have not tried one it may make a difference.

Cyclops I know it might seem like a mad idea but couldnt you make use of those handwarmers. Im not going to attempt to describe how you would fit them but im sure they would work. Its just an idea.I could not run in winter without them in my gloves.

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Originally Posted by Big Compass

Have you got a lightweight Pertex running top,if you have not tried one it may make a difference.

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pretty much always run with a windproof gilet so wind is off my chest. got a montane featherlite but that's only put on when it's really windy or raining hard, otherwise I just boil...that's the weird thing, I'm not cold, actually get quite hot.

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Originally Posted by daz h

Cyclops I know it might seem like a mad idea but couldnt you make use of those handwarmers. Im not going to attempt to describe how you would fit them but im sure they would work. Its just an idea.I could not run in winter without them in my gloves.

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thanks Daz, I have some of the handwarmers and thought today that they should live in my bumbag for use when it happens. think I'll be just fine at working out how to fit them ;-)

Ok I have never suffered from this but I have a suggestion. Could it be that your supportive sports bra is tight and therefore reducing circulation? With a reduced blood flow coldness could be the result.

Having come up with this thought, I'm at a loss as to how you would overcome it. Could your bra be too small? There's a fine line between support and strangling!!! :o

P.s. I often have a cold bum!!!

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Originally Posted by Stef F

Ok I have never suffered from this but I have a suggestion. Could it be that your supportive sports bra is tight and therefore reducing circulation? With a reduced blood flow coldness could be the result.

Having come up with this thought, I'm at a loss as to how you would overcome it. Could your bra be too small? There's a fine line between support and strangling!!! :o

P.s. I often have a cold bum!!!

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thanks stef, I spent ages getting the bra fitted in a running shop, but I do agree it could be too tight - therein might lie the dilemma!!

ps. my b/f says I have a cold bum too!!!

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Originally Posted by cyclops

thanks stef, I spent ages getting the bra fitted in a running shop, but I do agree it could be too tight - therein might lie the dilemma!!

ps. my b/f says I have a cold bum too!!!

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I strongly recommend you go to Debenhams or M&S if you can; they sell sports bras and fit them. You don't have to buy one on the spot, just get a fitting and a second opinion on size.

Meanwhile, if you come up with a solution to the cold bum predicament I'll be all ears!!!

I'm currently trialling some Norwegian gear for a military website. Brynje make alot of excellent stuff for arctic explorers, runners, skiers and cyclists. It's certainly warm.

http://www.brynje.no/english/super_t...windcover.html

Sweat wind chill will make a difference, the body when cold will warm the core before extremities, your boobies are those, a lot of men will notice in cold that there well gentlemen's sausage will shrink in cold/exercise as blood flow will be restricted, to service the core, well that's my fellas excuse.

I wear just sports bra and Lifa in winter with pertex outer.

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Originally Posted by Pantisocial

....gentlemen's sausage...

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:)) Good to have you back Panti

A woollen plunderhouse codpiece is the way ahead, preferably in merino wool.

http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/sturecodpiece.html

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Originally Posted by Brotherton Lad

A woollen plunderhouse codpiece is the way ahead, preferably in merino wool.

http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/sturecodpiece.html

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I'd rather suffer with shrunken sausage syndrome than be caught running in a woollen codpiece Broth :closed:

I think Stef F is right - this is not a cold related problem - if it was it would not happen in a gym - but related to distortion/pressure on the relevant body parts.

I suspect this problem is a form of Raynaud's phenomenon, where blood vessels go into spasm and circulation is shut off in over-reaction to cold, but also to stress, either physical or mental, and sometimes other triggers eg caffeine. The body panics and seeks to preserve it's core by sacrificing what it sees as less important body parts. These are more usually fingers and toes, but can also be noses and cheeks. Clearly breasts are not necessary for survival and are therefore appropriate as sacrifices.

Strategies for coping include keeping the core warm, keeping the affected parts warm, and anything that may improve circulation from Nifedipine to Viagra. I have recently detected some benefit from daily beetroot juice, but it certainly hasn't solved the problem. I once felt so fed up with the condition I got some Viagra from my GP, but reading the list of likely long-term side effects was enough to deter me from taking any.

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Originally Posted by Mike T

I think Stef F is right - this is not a cold related problem - if it was it would not happen in a gym - but related to distortion/pressure on the relevant body parts.

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Interesting. So is that how you'd explain the miniscule sausage as well? That and genetics:)

Cyclops, do your breasts feel cold to the touch when you are having problems, and maybe change colour, going white, red or blue? - if so, I think my Raynauds diagnosis is correct. Raynauds is usually a stand alone condition (primary Raynauds), quite common in young women, but it can also be a symptom of other maladies (secondary Raynauds). Your GP should refer you to a rheumatology department, where they would do lots of tests to make sure which you have. This is important, as Raynauds can be a symptom of various immune system problems which need early treatment.

thanks Alexandra for the helpful information, and to other useful stuff. I'll monitor the situation for a while as my observations so far have been irratic, usually just noticing when it's so painful I can't think of anything else. I'm familiar with raynaulds thoough more for hands so will research this more. thank you. I'm also thinking the tightness of the bra around my chest/back may be an issue so will look to get another bra and see how that goes.

Hi cyclops - this solution depends on how well-off you are in the breast dept. I'm built like a lamppost and therefore wear those super-enhancing Wonder-where-they've-gone bra's with not so much a chicken fillet insert as the whole damn bird.. One rather lovely upshot of this gel insert is that I now have terrifically warm breasts and have on occaision whipped out the insert and used them as impromtu hand-warmers. They seem to store heat fabulously and whereas I've suffered in the past with cold boobies, nowadays I get to look hot and feel warm too!!#
Just a thought. Obviously if you're built like a normal woman then you'd probably not be wearing this kind of brassiere on your runs...

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Originally Posted by daisy

Hi cyclops - this solution depends on how well-off you are in the breast dept. I'm built like a lamppost and therefore wear those super-enhancing Wonder-where-they've-gone bra's with not so much a chicken fillet insert as the whole damn bird.. One rather lovely upshot of this gel insert is that I now have terrifically warm breasts and have on occaision whipped out the insert and used them as impromtu hand-warmers. They seem to store heat fabulously and whereas I've suffered in the past with cold boobies, nowadays I get to look hot and feel warm too!!#
Just a thought. Obviously if you're built like a normal woman then you'd probably not be wearing this kind of brassiere on your runs...

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Love this post Daisy, I've a friend who suffers from cold hands when skiing, could this be the answer to her prayers...

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Originally Posted by Derby Tup

I'd rather suffer with shrunken sausage syndrome than be caught running in a woollen codpiece Broth :closed:

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Buffalo used to do a pertex/pile codpiece, it was far too warm....

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Originally Posted by Brotherton Lad

A woollen plunderhouse codpiece is the way ahead, preferably in merino wool.

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Wouldn't this lead to socially unacceptable scratching?

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Originally Posted by daisy

Hi cyclops - this solution depends on how well-off you are in the breast dept. I'm built like a lamppost and therefore wear those super-enhancing Wonder-where-they've-gone bra's with not so much a chicken fillet insert as the whole damn bird.. One rather lovely upshot of this gel insert is that I now have terrifically warm breasts and have on occaision whipped out the insert and used them as impromtu hand-warmers. They seem to store heat fabulously and whereas I've suffered in the past with cold boobies, nowadays I get to look hot and feel warm too!!#
Just a thought. Obviously if you're built like a normal woman then you'd probably not be wearing this kind of brassiere on your runs...

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I saw a recent news item about a woman whose life was saved when she crashed her car because she was wearing double chicken fillets that stopped her broken ribs from killing her. The story had a sad ending, as she then decided to have implants.

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

Love this post Daisy, I've a friend who suffers from cold hands when skiing, could this be the answer to her prayers...

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Just be very very careful how you phrase this suggestion, Ian...:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Alexandra

I saw a recent news item about a woman whose life was saved when she crashed her car because she was wearing double chicken fillets that stopped her broken ribs from killing her. The story had a sad ending, as she then decided to have implants.

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You know, I used to think I'd like implants...but then I started running again and realised how much better off I am with me little fried eggs.... just one more thing I'm grateful to fell running for. :thumbup:

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

Love this post Daisy, I've a friend who suffers from cold hands when skiing, could this be the answer to her prayers...

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Nooo silly; it would be the answer to your cold hands/prayers IDP :D

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Originally Posted by Stef F

Nooo silly; it would be the answer to your cold hands/prayers IDP :D

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Well, if we're having THAT kind of conversation, I'm reminded of an anecdote in David Niven's autobiography where he went skiing in, I think, Scandinavia and to his horror found that his penis had shrunk to a tiny blue acorn. He was also surprised by the form of resuscitation applied by his more knowledgeable companions - not mouth to mouth but .....

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Originally Posted by Alexandra

Well, if we're having THAT kind of conversation, I'm reminded of an anecdote in David Niven's autobiography where he went skiing in, I think, Scandinavia and to his horror found that his penis had shrunk to a tiny blue acorn. He was also surprised by the form of resuscitation applied by his more knowledgeable companions - not mouth to mouth but .....

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Mouth to acorn:w00t: I'm shocked Alexandra;)

Tiny blue acorn? What a show-off.

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Originally Posted by Tussockface

Tiny blue acorn? What a show-off.

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Why would it swell to such a size when he was skiing?

I was going to say, How insensitive, men taking over a thread where women were talking about their breasts, to bang on about their own equipment. But then I remembered who it was mentioned acorns....

Your post made me laugh a lot and think perhaps I should get one of those bras as I am not very well-endowed either and I have raynauds and so could do with some hand warmers!:)

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Originally Posted by daisy

Hi cyclops - this solution depends on how well-off you are in the breast dept. I'm built like a lamppost and therefore wear those super-enhancing Wonder-where-they've-gone bra's with not so much a chicken fillet insert as the whole damn bird.. One rather lovely upshot of this gel insert is that I now have terrifically warm breasts and have on occaision whipped out the insert and used them as impromtu hand-warmers. They seem to store heat fabulously and whereas I've suffered in the past with cold boobies, nowadays I get to look hot and feel warm too!!#
Just a thought. Obviously if you're built like a normal woman then you'd probably not be wearing this kind of brassiere on your runs...

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Originally Posted by Alexandra

Well, if we're having THAT kind of conversation, I'm reminded of an anecdote in David Niven's autobiography where he went skiing in, I think, Scandinavia and to his horror found that his penis had shrunk to a tiny blue acorn. He was also surprised by the form of resuscitation applied by his more knowledgeable companions - not mouth to mouth but .....

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From small Acorns do mighty oaks grow......!!

Can I say that my hands are nearly always warm, so in the absence of any wonder bras I would be quite happy to offer my service to any suffering lady.....

ok i'll get my hat and coat....sorry....;)

Apologies I've gone all a bit Sid James - this thread makes me want to snigger like a naughty schoolboy. As for cold breasts, I'm all for them :)

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Originally Posted by daisy

Hi cyclops - this solution depends on how well-off you are in the breast dept. I'm built like a lamppost and therefore wear those super-enhancing Wonder-where-they've-gone bra's with not so much a chicken fillet insert as the whole damn bird.. One rather lovely upshot of this gel insert is that I now have terrifically warm breasts and have on occaision whipped out the insert and used them as impromtu hand-warmers. They seem to store heat fabulously and whereas I've suffered in the past with cold boobies, nowadays I get to look hot and feel warm too!!#
Just a thought. Obviously if you're built like a normal woman then you'd probably not be wearing this kind of brassiere on your runs...

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thanks daisy, the chances of me running with that type of bra are just not an option - it has to be a sports bra.

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

Buffalo used to do a pertex/pile codpiece, it was far too warm....

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got any spare ones? sounds like a good option!

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Originally Posted by Alexandra

I was going to say, How insensitive, men taking over a thread where women were talking about their breasts, to bang on about their own equipment. But then I remembered who it was mentioned acorns....

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I was going to comment on how the thread had been hijacked by talk of mens bits but then its all rather amusing.

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

Can I say that my hands are nearly always warm, so in the absence of any wonder bras I would be quite happy to offer my service to any suffering lady.....

ok i'll get my hat and coat....sorry....;)

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haha...I think Zephr would be having more than a few words if you offered yr services to me!!

(useful info to know though!!)

cyclops - Whilst I risk a whole new string of euphenisms and analogies being started .... I get my sports bra's at Bravissimo. They do brilliant scaffolding, fitted perfectly, you could house a small family i them but there's no bounce, they're warm and wick the sweat very well. So, size depending as I think they start at a D cup, you might like a look!