i know we had this thread before but can someone give me the course details again
there was a website yeah
AJ entered me by post and i cannot find the site anywhere
cheers
daz
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i know we had this thread before but can someone give me the course details again
there was a website yeah
AJ entered me by post and i cannot find the site anywhere
cheers
daz
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Originally Posted by Marvin
cheers marvin
id forgot with being away
Been around Edale today - nice and muddy and very windy!
I went round most of the route yesterday, came down Jacobs ladder back to Edale as I was running out of daylight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mountain Goat
Very pleased to get across Brown Knoll in thick mist and without drowning!
No sign of the promised entry list yet on the website.
Stagger and I will be doing a recce of the second half on Friday.
Starting in Edale from the car park at 10am we will run up Harden Clough to Mam Nick
and then run round the last 10 miles of the course and back to the car park.
About 12 miles in all. Anyone who has a free day is welcome to join us, especially if you know the way!
We will be working from the map. Or at least trying to!!
Would have liked to have joined you Swoop but work intervenes.
Anybody fancy another reccie ?
Good grief! Just checked website... 340 entries already! Easily going to meet 500 entries before March 11th, I think.
I've put the entry in, hopefully get the day off work!
Now to get fit for it!
I'm up for a reccy, but looks like I can only manage 17th/18th Feb and the weekend before the race if I'm to do all the other races I fancy over the coming weeks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manhar
I would be interseted in joining you for a weekend recce. I havn't convinced myself to sign up for the race yet - but you never know!:)
Count me in for the 17th/18th Feb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
i'll come!
Hi Swoop,
I'd like to join the recce run on Friday, if you don't mind. Can't help with any course knowledge though, it'll be my first time on the second half of the course.
And I've got another recce scheduled for the 17th/18th as well so if no one objects I'd like to join in there as well.
Cheers,
Chris.
think I might be up for the 17th/18th as well if thats ok!
Cheers
Anyone know if theres an entries list yet as promised?
It seems a long way off, but let's go for Sunday 18th Feb for a reccy for anyone who is interested. Meet up in Edale. I haven't yet done either half of the route other than odd bits in the past, but if some of you are doing the second half this Friday, lets go for the first half in February. Alternatively we could split up and meet up again in the pub afterwards. Details to be confirmed nearer the time.
Another possibility was suggested by always injured: Starting at Mam Nick and doing the second half followed by the first half but missing out the start/finish section between Edale and Ringing Roger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marvin
Mind you that would be over 19 miles and would take me well over 4 hours at recce pace.
Better get this Friday out of the way first especially as I've just come down with a cold!
i would be up for sunday 18th as well:)
would be a nice day out if we lots of forumites
Hi everyone
this question may be too technical but my mapping software tells me that it's quicker on the last leg (Grindslow Knoll), to go down to Grindsbrook then coutour across with a slight climb back up to Ringing Roger, than to follow the track back towards Kinder and then continue the routine circuit. For walking it estimates 38min as against 54min and the climb is not much different. Is it allowed? Is it really quicker? has anyone ever done it?
I know, I know - I should go and find out!
Redhead,Quote:
Originally Posted by Redhead
I'd love to watch someone walk it in 38 minutes! I believe Lloyd Taggart went 'down and up' to win Edale last year but for most humans the route 'round the edge would be much quicker. I'm not convinced there is any obvious 'down and up' line to take - lots of rocks, bracken etc.
This topic was debated at length on the old forum.
My recces have shown the route around the skyline is more reliable (no navigation required) and much faster, especially at the end of a long, tiring race.
MH
Common sense prevails. Thank you for bringing it to bear on the wacky idea!
Maybe it's wacky, but I'm still going to do it as a recee!Quote:
Originally Posted by Redhead
One other thing to consider is that most mapping software tends to overestimate the ascent and descent for contouring routes. This is to do with the way spot heights are used to estimate the actual elevation of the route.
Respectfully, I think you're wasting your time. A clubmate reccied it and found it was about 5 minutes slower than going round. Ok he didn't find a good line through the vegetation but he thought a good line would be hard to find anyway, and really hard to re-find on race day especially in mist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
It will only work for very slow runners who will not be running much faster than they can walk. I will definitely be going round.
I don't really think Lloyd falls into this category. Last year he was miles ahead at Grindslow Knoll & even more miles ahead when he reached Ringing Roger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie
It's got to be worth a recce, just to see if it suits you.
Now full, entries closed, according to the website.
I agree, but one must remember there will have been 19 miles of effort used just to get there, so it will all depend how much petrol is left in the tank.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
I've never done this race before or any part of the route, so I'd love to join you all on the 18th. Never done a collective recce before either. If there's quite a few of us, presumably there'll be people wanting to go off at different paces. This probably sounds like a ridiculous question, but how do these things work?
Don't worry. Nobody will be left on their own.Quote:
Originally Posted by this is my real name
I'm with you Geoff. Looks quite feasible to me if you have some climbing left in your legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeoffB
Entry is now full, with two months still to go until the race.
I might put my run number on e-bay!
The race is filled up, we shut the online entries down on Friday leaving about 50 postal ones to go. We've had TONS of postal entries in since then and there's bound to be load tomorra when I get to work. If you've not posted it in already, I reckon ya've had it.
We decided to do this to not favour people with tinterweb who could click faster than Postman Pat delivers.
The full, unexpurgated entry list should be be up on dpfr website this week, it would have been there earlier, but it kept being buggered up by people adding names to it!
When it's up and been seen by everyone, the inevitable balls-ups have been sorted, then we'll take a view on substitution. POSSIBLY we will be doing substitution between club members, but we need to chat about this.
The limit was set by the Peak park and the National Truss. They usually will only agree to 300 but upped it this year to 500. That's plenty for Edale, people live there and we are about to take the place over, and more than 500 would probably explode the sewers.
Jim
Then I suppose they would sue you for damages. Or would they dam you for sewages?:)Quote:
Originally Posted by skyline
This is the e-mail we've been sending out today - lots of them!!!!!!
Dear (fill in your own name),
I am an also ran, runner. I received the 2006 calendar which was sent out to everyone at the same time, decided what races I wanted to do in the year and sent my entries in, then went to the pub. It’s not important whether I ran or not, it’s just summat I wanted to do so I got it sorted. At the back end of the season I bust my arm, so contacted the race organiser of the last two races I’d pre-entered and told them I would not be running. I dunno if the places were reallocated, but the oportunity was given.
This year, when I came back to work after the Christmas hols, there were a lot of paper entry forms & cheques waiting for me which were put on the 2007 Entry list.
THEN we opened the online Entries.
As the maximum number of entries allowed by the National Truss and the PeakPark is 500 we closed the online entries at 450 and the final 50 entries were postal as were the first ones.
If it was important that I ran, I would have entered as soon as possible (like I have for the Ben Nevis) to avoid disappointment.
It’s a shame that runners wanting to take part in the race because they are entering the English Champs, or have a particular score to settle, have failed to get an entry. If it is that important, they should have thought about this earlier shouldn't they / you?
If the FRA wanted us to keep a certain number of places available for English Champs competitors, that’s fine. But, like the individuals who have asked too late, so have they.
There’s no bargaining / horse trading / bribing going off. We will put the Entry list on the DarkPeak website in the next couple of days.
When EVERYONE in DarkPeak involved in this has agreed, we will make a decision on substitutions. It is most likely we will allow substitutions within clubs. Until then, the entry list is full and until it is disclosed everyone will just have to sweat it out!
In the interim you could do worse than look at this …………
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Edale-Skyline-...QQcmdZViewItem
Jim Fulton & Chris Barber AKA [email protected] and [email protected]
Well, the entry list is up on the Dark Peak website - thankfully I'm in there.
Training starts in earnest on Saturday. First of all I'm going to practice sprinting from the start line to that first gate at the bottom of the zig-zags. (Are they zag-zigs when we come back down again?)
Let's hope we get last year's weather conditions again this year.
ive started my long runs, hopefully i wont go off to quick and blow up
ive done road marathons before but i think this is going to be a lot harder:(
The beauty of a long fell race is that even if you do start too quick you can ease off as and when the course allows ie. walk the steep bits, run the downhills easy etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by daz h
Running marathons on the road, in my opinion, can be much tougher because once you have committed yourself to a pace, by the time you realise you've started too quick it's usually too late to do anything about it. All you can do is try and somehow survive to the end.
Also fell running is far less draining mentally as there is always the challenge of the next top, the next CP etc. rather than just miles and miles of never-ending tarmac.
I know which I'd rather be doing...
MH
Anyone fancy a recce of the second half on Friday, Saturday or Sunday?
Starting in Edale from the car park we could run up Harden Clough to Mam Nick and then
run round the last 10 miles of the course and back to the car park. About 12 miles in all.
Anyone welcome, especially if you know the way! I will be working from the map. Or at least trying to!!
I can't wait until I retire and can go on all these mid-week reccies. 35 years to go...Quote:
Originally Posted by Swoop