anybody tried these Start Fitness own brand (More Mile) shoes?:
http://www.startfitness.co.uk/produc...ID=&P_ID=47910
on offer atm...
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anybody tried these Start Fitness own brand (More Mile) shoes?:
http://www.startfitness.co.uk/produc...ID=&P_ID=47910
on offer atm...
The fact that it's their own shoe, has a RRP of £79.99 and is at half price would concern me a little. It's not that they couldn't put a shoe together as good as a brand, but the technical details you often don't see in a shoe are usually there in the branded footwear but missing in plausible looking copies.
Usually an unbranded "copy" would pitch in at £40 so I'm sure this was designed with a £40 spec.
I have to say, it looks quite good - I'd be interested to see if anyone has feedback.
Start Fitness have big reductions on lots of "branded" shoes too, not just their own brand
also, the Cheviots have literally just been reduced in the last few days (not sure what they cost before, maybe not 79.99, but probably somewhere in between)
More Mile branded stuff does generally tend to be good VFM, but I've never seen it other than at half price! I've got shorts and thermals that are very good.
These look OK, but have that look of a shoe that's meant to be £40, if you know what I mean, and also look quite heavy with it (possibly the MM logo doesn't help!). They also start at UK 8 so no good for us hobbits! It'd be interesting to hear the views of anyone who's actually used them though as it is a good price....
Interestingly, the More Mile website doesn't list any shoes, at all.
http://www.moremile.co.uk/
Saying which, I'm a big fan of their clothing - the shop in Newcastle is my nearest running shop, I've always had good service from the kit I've bought, and it's nicely priced. The staff are generally very good too.
For now, though, think I'll stick with my bargain-in-the-sales Mizuno Wave Harriers 2...
I just received a pair of MM Cheviots here in Australia earlier today. First impressions were that they seemed visually very similar to Inov8 Mudclaw 330/333s, especially the sole with it's 'bi planner' type heel and stud pattern. Although we have no true 'fell' running here in Australia (I'll use the shoes for short mountain trail and cross country races), recent heavy rains and flooding in my part of New South Wales has left wet boggy conditions and a short 5 km run across boggy country with some undulations had me very happy with the shoes. Great traction on wet grass and mud, can't comment on wet rock as yet. I'd describe the fit as similar to my Inov8 Roclite 295's - I'm a New Balance 2E width road/trail shoe wearer and like a little more forefoot width without a loose heel.
Close examination of the shoes showed a good build quality, I could not help noticing that the size tag in the left shoe was almost identical to that used by Inov8 and the lace eye loops and laces were identical. I think it entirely possible that MM's come from the very same factory in China as Inov8s.
I got my shoes for GBP 29.95 from ebay seller 'exercise-direct.co.uk', which is about 1/3 of what I pay for comparable Inov8 shoes via Wiggle etc. I'm that happy with the MM's that I've just purchased 2 more pairs of Cheviots at GBP 29.95 a pair, this time I've gone for the black/blue model as the gray/yellow model that I received earlier today has a yellow inner lining that has already attracted a little dirt in it's maiden run and will get much more.
My conclusion - if you like the Inov8 Mudclaw 330/333 or even the Mudroc 290, you might like the MM Cheviot at around 1/3 of the price.
PS - no indication of a Inov8 type 'fascia band' if that matters to you - it dosn't to me.
You can get two pairs for £54.95, with a free pair of more mile socks for each pair:
http://www.moremile.co.uk/product.as...ID=&P_ID=40429
Anyone else got a pair they can comment on? Bet they'd last as long as Inov8 330/333 (which isn't long to be honest) but at least you won't be as much out of pocket.
They do look like a Roclite 295 with a different foot cradle and a more rugged sole. Oztrailrunner might be on to something there. Even details such as the pull loops on the tongue and heel are very close.
Looks a decent enough shoe to me, although I also agree with Stumpy. But realistically at £29.95 it's not going to have Salomon type aesthetics. If we weren't heading into a bit of better weather I'd probably take a punt on a pair.
Nice to see a bit more competition and choice in the all-out fell shoe market.
Any idea of the weight OZT?
think I'm going to take a punt on a pair of Cheviots
I used to wait until I could find Inov8's discounted to £50 before buying them, but if I'm now going to struggle to get any for less than £65-70, I'm going to need to find a cheap alternative for general training to keep mileage off such expensive shoes
so instead of spending £100 on 2 pairs of Inov8's, I'll now be giving them only £65 - hey ho...
The yellow ones are only £21.95, if you don't mind something a bit bright....well until you get the first bit of mud on them. Amusingly, they are still in the 2 for £54 offer.
...if I hadn't just managed to get some immaculate Roclite 295s off ebay for £35, I would have probably given them a punt, as look very similar.
the blue ones look nicest, but (miserly skinflint that I am) I've just ordered a pair of those yellow ones - soon have them stained brown by Kinder peat :thumbup:
I'm with you on the miserly skinflint front Daz!
How does the fit come out? I'm hoping the is more like a 7.5 given that's the smallest they come in! My Mudclaw 330s on the otherhand are supposed to be a 7.5, but are more like an 8!
I should have added, if you use code FETCH10, you get 10% off also.
Hmm. For £24 delivered, they are quite tempting.
No official figures quoted, but a heft in the hand compared to my Rocklite 295's would suggest they'd be around the same weight (330g) as a Mudclaw 330/333.Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
I found them a 'light', relatively low riding shoe on my feet, they seem to have a similar midsole to the Mudclaw 330/333 with around the 2 ^ (6mm) heel lift. Someone suggested they look heavy with the MM logo on the side of the upper, however this not in reality much additional weight at all.
Does the sole rubber compound seem fairly soft/sticky or more hard/durable?
...Definitely tempting! Do they come up as pretty normal shoe sizes?
They seem to be the same as Inov8, a falrly generous sizing. As with Inov8, my UK size 9 MM's are quoted as US 10 and EUR 43.Quote:
Originally Posted by plodding bear
My thumb 'durometer' suggests relatively 'sticky' to touch but firm sole studs, possiblly a little harder than with my Roclite 295's 'sticky sole'.Quote:
Originally Posted by TobyM
I can't really comment on durability yet, with only 2 runs totalling 7.7 miles, of which 90 per cent was on muddy grass. Soles are still like new.
I'm sure there will soon be reports from UK fell runners on this forum as to how these shoes perform on the local countryside.
Price has gone back up to £29.99 for the yellow ones. Boo!
Mudclaws don't have a fascia band either. I mis=typed this "fascia bane", which shows my dislike of this feature, which IMO serves only to trap small stones & mud.Quote:
Originally Posted by oztrailrunner
Correct, Roclite 295's have the 'fascia band', Mudclaw 330's have the 'meta shank'. All 'features' which I don't really care about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra
Anyone run down Dalehead or through two feet of prime black oozing Peakland bog in these? Do they grip? :closed:
Just ordered a pair in the hi viz colour report to follow
Cheviots waist collection at postal depot. I might Wear these for mowcop on Sunday
collected new shoes the grip looks amazing
they weigh in at 343 g for a size8.5 they are wider
than mud claw 330 and sit a little higher up the
and are perhaps more of a comfort fit, plus the lugs on the sole
seem well sturdy also more toe protection
343 grams for a UK size 8.5 is almost exactly the same as Inov8's quoted 333 grams for a UK size 8. The bonus being the (IMHO) better upper, and for me fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by N-dubya
Whilst not running on UK fells, I'm finding the as good if not better than Mudclaw grip on mud and grass with the more comfortable upper is working for me. I'm thinking that these shoes may well be the choice in circumstances where I previously might have been needing to decide between Mudclaws and Roclites, such as in muddy conditions over longer distances.
Did you wear them at MowCop?Quote:
Originally Posted by N-dubya
finally got round to picking mine up from the PO this am
like N-dubya said, the grip looks fantastic
hoping I can wear them in on a few training runs in time for TWA on 21st...
I didn't wear them at mowcop as there is at leastQuote:
Originally Posted by oztrailrunner
1 mile of road on the race and the grip just seemed too
excessive for the terrain. I wore them first time tonight
for a 6 miler ; they are very supportive perhaps a little stiff
and very grippy. whilst running I tried to think
of the ideal terrain for these shoes, which would be
the descent of Y Garn then straight up Glyder Fawr up the
loose scree paths, they would eat ground such as that.
I am very tempted by these, but I notice there is no mention of sticky rubber. Has anyone tried them on wet rock yet?
If I wasn't going for reduced drop/cushioning on my trail shoes I'd be tempted, but just got a pair of Vivobarefoot Breatho Trail to try out - more flexible and less drop than my Wave Harriers...
took mine out for their first spin today
over 2 hours out around foothills of peak district
quite a large "comfort" fit - I got size 10's, and if anything I sometimes need to go up to 10.5, but I reckon I'd've been OK with 9.5's on these - they'll just need lacing up nice 'n' tight
speaking of which the laces are a bit flimsy, but can easily replace
gusseted tongue
feel a bit heavy/"clumpy", but not too bad
grip excellent on what I tried them with (inc. steep/wet grassy banks)
not even a hint of a blister, which is what I was most worried about
I'm already convinced enough to do all my Lakes/Snowdonia recces in these, keeping mileage off my more expensive shoes :thumbup:
[just need to see how durability pans out - will report back...]
I wore mine on a couple of good outings around foel Fras area in the bad weather. agree with Daz the slug they are a bit clumpy but the grip is amazing fantastic on steep wet grass, snow, loose scree, better the Inov8 endurance rubber on wet rock. I think i might cut the heel tabs down, but I don't mind making adjustments on a shoe this cheap
Did you mean that Cheviots are better than Inov8 endurance rubber on wet rock, or the opposite? And when you say clumpy, is this because the soles are rigid?Quote:
Originally Posted by N-dubya
I've bought a couple of pairs of these as at the price they almost fall into the 'disposable' category considering I can 3 to 4 pairs of these for the same price as an Innovate shoe for example.
So far I'm very impressed with them. As mentioned above they feel slightly clumpy compared to my usual Walshes due to the more rigid sole and slightly more cushioning but the trade off is that I don't feel stones etc through the sole as I do with my Walshes. Grip is excellent and the studs 'feel' as though they'll last a fair bit and they were comfortable straight from the box - no rub or blisters as happened with my Mudclaws. Great training shoe at the price I reckon.
clumpy as in rigid sole yeah
also virtually no forefoot cushioning (even though it looks like there ought to be)
little bit of cushioning in the heel
studs don't take well to any hard surface though (especially tarmac!) - started to get a blister on the bottom of my heel (which I've never had with any shoes before) after just a mile and a half on tarmac (don't ask why!)
basically, I'd say brilliant if you knew you'd be running exclusively on soft ground
Trouble is, virtually any long distance stuff will probably involve tarmac or rocky paths somewhere along the route! Just to chuck another log on the fire, I've just bought some of the adidas adizero XT shoes for forty-four quid. They seem pretty good; about as low profile as a wave harrier, good on wet rock, ok in mud, comfy...
I've just ordered 2 pairs of the Cheviots in the nice blue (different sizes). I found a 10% off voucher code for Start Fitness which worked today & saved me £4.99, so = the postage @ £4.95. TRACKB2011 Total worked out at under £50.
update
done nearly 100 miles in these now, almost exclusively in the Lakes
pros:
surprisingly comfy - not a titter of a blister even after 7-8 hours out
signs are also good re durability
cons:
grip is pretty pants on rock (even dry!)
don't drain very well (get wet, stay wet and heavy)
summary:
VERY pleased with them for the price