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I tried to transfer data from my 310XT to Garmin Connect by Garmin Express, but it didn't work, so I re-installed my ANT+ stick. I'm wondering about trying again, but Garmin say you have to uninstall the ANT_ stick completely (which I did) before installing Express, so I don't want to do all that again for nothing. Please, has anyone had success with the 310XT and Express?
Alexandra
I have had a 310 XT etc for several years and previously other Garmins.
In my experience it all works but once or twice it has gone all temperamental and I have had to reload patiently from square 1. From memory the device hasn't always been recognised first time (or second time, or third time) and I seem to recall there are two sets of instructions which are slightly different: but I have got there in the end.
IMHO there was no practical advantage at all in going "wireless" over hard wire. All it does is introduce an unnecessary area for vulnerability: but there we are.
Graham
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Originally Posted by Alexandra
Thanks, Graham, but are you using Express?
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandra
I repeat, I have had several frustrating hours over the years and never been clear why a problem developed or why it suddenly worked OK on repeated reloading: but in answer to your original question - the system does work and I transfer data from my 310XT to my PC several times a week and have done for several years.
G
Well, that's encouraging (sort of).Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
Ditto.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Breeze
It got so bad that I haven't bothered for the few runs I have been doing. I have just found my 305, if I find the cradle I will be tempted to sell the XT.
I had a 305, two in fact, of fond memory!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodders
Do these gadgets record accurately "fell" runs?
There is always some debate about the height gain/loss accuracy but the unit connects to several satellites (ie think it is a minimum of 4) and eg when you download the trace it will show which side of the trail you were running on, say, an out and back route. In one sense it doesn't matter but in another the technology on your wrist is mind boggling. It is also of course possible to put a route into the unit and then follow it and if you divert even a few yards the unit will tell you and point you back onto the right route. Even in the dark! BGR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
They are also valuable after you have gone walkabout in showing just where you went wrong.
Enough already!
I've been drinking, so excuse me if I'm no help at all.
With my 310 when I've occasionally had download problems you can toggle through the watches menu to "Download All".
Dunno if this will help you.
Hope the rest of your Christmas was merry.
They're better than a piece string.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
To be honest, I assume an degree of inaccuracy with any method of recording distance/ascent. I'm not actually worried by being a few percent out so long as it maintains the same average degree of inaccuracy then it still gives me an effective measuring stick.
Mobile phones are the worst, I've trialled two different apps on two phones and they produced the biggest variations. Strava in particular overestimated every run and ride. Although much may depend on quality of the phones GPS and any settings within.
Anecdotal but...Quote:
IMHO there was no practical advantage at all in going "wireless" over hard wire. All it does is introduce an unnecessary area for vulnerability: but there we are.
I used to have a 310xt, and getting data uploaded was a pain in the ass. Now have a FR225 and it's absolutely seamless, albeit it needed a software update to get there.
Not sure whether the wireless problem is a reflection on the 310XT or if I'm just luck with the FR225.
I have a tiny brass wheel our youth brought me, which you roll over a map. It's ace, especially when you turn it round half way round your route and you end up at zero
Oh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Derby Tup
And there was me thinking you would have a unique, up-to-the-minute, super sophisticated piece of high tech gizmo the size of a pin head that transmits the data directly to your brain and was specially made for you by Apple, NASA and Rolex.
Are you still running fell races in plimsolls? ;):D
Mudclaws. When you've paid for them there's no brass left for fancy watches
You're thinking of StollyQuote:
And there was me thinking you would have a unique, up-to-the-minute, super sophisticated piece of high tech gizmo the size of a pin head that transmits the data directly to your brain and was specially made for you by Apple, NASA and Rolex.
Yep! I often think of Stolly-Dogs-Photos-Dogs-More Dogs-Photos-Same Dogs- More Pictures-Stolly with Dogs-Dogs without Stolly...:DQuote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
used Garmin Express for a while with the 310 I think initially might been a bit of messing about but it has been great for th elat couple of years definitely with persevering with
Alexandra - have our resolved the problem? There are a number of bugs in uploading from a 310xt to GE, each of which has a slightly different solution - I think my 310 has had most of them!! If its still not working, describe exactly what happens and what messages you are getting and there will undoubtedly be a workaround! NSMOAF's "download all" is one of those!
Incidentally, if you want more accurate ascent data than Garmin gives, then save your Garmin trace as a GPX file and upload it onto an OS based piece of software. "The Hug" does this perfectly well and is free....
I think that there are some problems with the watch itself that might mean a full solution is unlikely to be found to make the transfer smooth. After lots of problems with the Garmin software I got fed up and just stopped using it. Having a decent grasp of computers, I installed the open source drivers and a command line programme for linux and have used that ever since on my linux machines. (I know this is not a good solution for most people!) The most frustrating thing for me was that the Garmin programmes never told you what was actually going on and recent upgrades gave you even less information so that when it didn't work there was very little information on how to fix it!
The command line programme is more work but at least there is more clarity and when things don't work you can understand what is causing the problem. For example, I have found that the watch has a habit of sporadically renaming all the files to the same date, meaning that all files have to be transferred again. This is probably one of the bugs that the "download all" trick solves. It also has a habit of creating empty files or corrupted files that are difficult to transfer.
I won't bore you with any more. I just wanted to say that while GE is far from perfect I think we're lumbered with a watch that has its own quirks that new software updates from Garmin won't solve.
Are all f the new Garmin watches now Bluetooth?
I never really understood why my old 310xt wasn't tbh.
Garmin owns the Ant protocol, hence its adoption in Garmin products. It seems the preferred connection is now wifi direct to the Internet or blue tooth via a mobile phone, very few if any phones have ant+ connectivity. Ant+ still seems to be popular for additional sensors for transmitting data to Garmins (and other fitness trackers), such as bike cadence and speed sensors due to lower power consumption compared to Blue Tooth. BTLE (Blue Tooth Low Energy) may start to challenge that.Quote:
Originally Posted by shaunaneto
Garmin Express has always been a complete PITA. For some reason as soon as Garmin gets a product working it scraps it and starts again, resulting in another shoddy product for a year or so until they iron out the bugs.
Oh, I knew it was a Garmin thing Ant+
Quite glad my FR225 has Bluetooth tbh, I just switch my phones Bluetooth on and let it do its thing.
Corredor - mine always renames all of the files to the same date when I go to a different time zone or the clocks go back/forward. I think it is an internal clock issue. I just try to remember to make sure the transfer is up to date and then delete all of the history when this is going to happen.
Just for info my Samsung has an Ant+ app supplied but never tried it as my watch doesnt BlueTooth!
Ha, I wondered why I recently discovered a whole load of activities all dated 3 March - and I'm not even in a time zone that puts clocks forward/back!Quote:
Originally Posted by stumpy
I have had my 310XT for over 5 years now and bought a s/h one for second half of the L100 a couple of years ago and have to say I have not had a single problem with either of them.
now got a good 5 years of stats built up on garmin connect and really useful for comparing performances or training schedules
really fancy the Fenix 3 but whilst the 310xt's are going strong no point in changing
I had a Fenix 3 for about a year, in my experience it was wildly inaccurate - had me running in totally different street often and unreliable, new updates every week, where you pray the thing will survive. Randomly paired with other peoples HRM during races, then paused while it told you it was out of range. I really missed the 310XT, if you can cope without the phone syncing stick with it, one of the best watches I've owned.
I'm now on a Suunto, very happy, rock solid I've no idea how to switch it off let alone factory reset it once a week.