Pennine Way Records !!

Hello all,

am preparing to do an article on Pennine Way records and holders..

I would like to know which way the following set there records !

Bill Bird Ranelagh H. 4days 8 hrs - Year ? and route ?
Alan Heaton - Mick Heaton Clayton le Moors H 1972 4 days 5 hours 10 secs route ??
Joss Naylor June 1974 3 days 4hours 33 mins North to South ??
Pete Dawes 1975 3 days 1 hour 42 mins Route ??
Brian Harney Rotherham H Aug 1979 3 days 42 mins Route
Mike Hartley 2 days 17 hours 20 mins 1989 North to South ??

Have I missed any one please let me know !!

Mike Cudahy?

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Originally Posted by gej

Mike Cudahy?

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Indeed, the FIRST man to go under 3 days; although Mike Hartley did better his time, some years later.

I think that MC's attempts all went N to S.

PS Read his book, Wild Trails to Far Horizons ... truly inspirational.

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Originally Posted by wheezing donkey

PS Read his book, Wild Trails to Far Horizons ... truly inspirational.

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Agreed - interesting book from a different time.

Does anyone know the fastest women's time?

It might be by some one you know!

Possibly, but I'd have thought that someone in the past with a lighter pack and better weather might have gone faster than Carol.

Perhaps they did, but as there's no real central record repository, who knows?

Maybe this will prompt someone to go and have a shot at it.

you need to read the article on page 15: http://www.fellrunner.org.uk/fellrunner/1972_Spring.pdf

Dennis Weir & Ted Dance, august 1972, 4 days 23 hours 20 minutes.

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Originally Posted by johnmc

you need to read the article on page 15: http://www.fellrunner.org.uk/fellrunner/1972_Spring.pdf

Dennis Weir & Ted Dance, august 1972, 4 days 23 hours 20 minutes.

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What a fascinating read, brilliantly understated :)

The same issue also has Bill Bird's crossing, and a couple of relays.
'10 years of DPFR ' (on their website) has an account of Brian Harney's, and Geoff Bell's solo (is that still a record?)
I believe Robin Price (CLEM?) has the fastest double crossing?

An old C-le-M clubmate of Robin's told me that Robin excused himself for doing the double by claiming that he had to get back to Edale to pick-up his van!

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Originally Posted by gej

The same issue also has Bill Bird's crossing, and a couple of relays.
'10 years of DPFR ' (on their website) has an account of Brian Harney's, and Geoff Bell's solo (is that still a record?)
I believe Robin Price (CLEM?) has the fastest double crossing?

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Originally Posted by DinoF

Agreed - interesting book from a different time.

Does anyone know the fastest women's time?

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It is a brilliant and inspiring book. However, my copy (given to me by Jez - thanks Jez! - which I'll pass on in turn) seems to have some pages missing. The first half of the book ends abruptly mid telling of his 1989 attempt at a second (other direction) sub 3 hour PW. So I don't know how that attempt ended! Turn the page and it's the start of the section which contains his collected essays/articles.

Is this the same in all editions of the book? Mine is the 2009 re-print by Hayloft publishing.

Cheers

p.s. I assume Jasmine now has the women's record does she?

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Originally Posted by benshep

p.s. I assume Jasmine now has the women's record does she?

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The Spine doesn't cover the full Pennine Way route (it doesn't go up the Cheviot) so I'm not sure if it counts?

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Originally Posted by DinoF

The Spine doesn't cover the full Pennine Way route (it doesn't go up the Cheviot) so I'm not sure if it counts?

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Aha! Good knowledge Dino!

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Originally Posted by DinoF

The Spine doesn't cover the full Pennine Way route (it doesn't go up the Cheviot) so I'm not sure if it counts?

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It adds on other bits to compensate though, eg the descent into and back out of Hebden Bridge IIRC.
But I expect you're right and it doesn't count.

The route to and then back from Hebden Hey (CP1) adds up to about the same as the out and back to the Cheviot. The Hebden Hey detour has more descent and reascent but yes, it isn;t the PW for record purposes.

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Originally Posted by benshep

It is a brilliant and inspiring book. However, my copy (given to me by Jez - thanks Jez! - which I'll pass on in turn) seems to have some pages missing. The first half of the book ends abruptly mid telling of his 1989 attempt at a second (other direction) sub 3 hour PW. So I don't know how that attempt ended! Turn the page and it's the start of the section which contains his collected essays/articles.

Is this the same in all editions of the book? Mine is the 2009 re-print by Hayloft publishing.

Cheers

p.s. I assume Jasmine now has the women's record does she?

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My copy is dated 2009 and is a reprint. That chapter finishes on p179 with: "... I had no intention of losing time. Within three minutes I was away again."
Turn the page and the font, style and clarity of image all change, suggesting that something strange happened in the reprint.
Cheers
Steve

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Originally Posted by Steve Chilton

My copy is dated 2009 and is a reprint. That chapter finishes on p179 with: "... I had no intention of losing time. Within three minutes I was away again."
Turn the page and the font, style and clarity of image all change, suggesting that something strange happened in the reprint.
Cheers
Steve

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I've just had a look in my copy, published 1989. In that one, the "within 3 minutes" sentence is on p171 and there are another 7 pages in that chapter. I'll not type it all here but just say that the final sentence is "But the sorrow was more than I could bear."

Excellent book - I must reread.

Cheers, Steve

I thought it was an omission. However, when I contacted the publishers (Hayloft publishing) the nice lady I spoke to was familiar with the book and had a copy to hand. she turned to the page in question and told me it was correct and that it had been proof read and checked by the author and was as it should be. I thought that was very odd. now I will have to hunt down a 1989 edition!

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Originally Posted by SteveT

I've just had a look in my copy, published 1989. In that one, the "within 3 minutes" sentence is on p171 and there are another 7 pages in that chapter. I'll not type it all here but just say that the final sentence is "But the sorrow was more than I could bear."

Excellent book - I must reread.

Cheers, Steve

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Originally Posted by DinoF

The Spine doesn't cover the full Pennine Way route (it doesn't go up the Cheviot) so I'm not sure if it counts?

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There seem to be multiple variation in some sections of the "Pennine Way" - is there a set route for the record? What are the required 'points'?

It may not even be set-in-stone anywhere. So I guess the same route as the current record holder. But is his exact route even published?