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Has anyone actually tried these Vaporfly Next shoes that seem to have go faster stripes?
Notably Kipchoge and Kosgei in recent records.
My interest is not going quicker, I have slowed down far too much for that.
But I got the impression from some comments that the shoes , by reflecting energy rather than dissipating it, also have less impact so they may do less damage to legs and joints when running on hard surfaces.
Does anyone have a view?
£200+ !?!?
Seems like marketing bulls**t to me. It might make the difference to a Kipchoge for example, the difference between breaking the world record by 5 seconds, or missing out by 20 seconds...
But 99.99% of the running population (myself included) would benefit a lot more from just training better.
Should add that I've not tried them... although I am considering some (cheaper) Nikes for my next road shoes.
I know! The thought of spending brass gets me into a Yorkshire cold sweat! Short arms and deep pockets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Travs
But somehow I have to stop leg and joint impact damage, it now limits how far I can go.
In winter it’s hard to train except on harder ground locally.
So if it lets me train, it’s grudgingly worth it.
I was curious about reports id seen where marathon runners were saying their legs had never felt better at the end of the race and after. Is it hype or true?
i have read that there are some credible claims that strava data suggests that the Nike shoes in question do make a difference. one explanation i've seen is that they reduce the impact on your less muscles and therefore cause less fatigue over the longer distance such as marathon.
These are the claims I’ve seen.
I would love to hear some stories from wearers who took the plunge.
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Originally Posted by benshep
Possibly... but surely the same could be claimed by someone like Hoka?
Incidentally I've used Hoka road and trail shoes in the past year, and got on fairly well with both.
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Originally Posted by Travs
Thanks
This is interesting travs.
https://www.runnersworld.com/health-...-biomechanics/
Has reservations about maximal shoes altering gait?
As I understand it, maybe wrong, the vaporfly are aiming to add spring, rather than maximal cushioning?
Yes you're probably right...
I think there's a whole load of debate regards cushioning etc, which I'd rather not get embroiled in!!
On one hand the marketing/hype behind super-cushioned shoes. And from the other side, lovers of bare-foot type shoes.
All I know is I've felt a bit happier banging out the flat miles using my Hokas. And my running gait/technique is beyond help anyway!
With regards to improving 'spring', could it be argued that this is an aid and shouldn't really be allowed (I have no idea on the technology used in the Nike shoe).
Hoka Speedgoats for everything for me now, I found I was getting joint pain and these have cured it, although my missus says that I run differently now than before, possibly more on my fore footQuote:
Originally Posted by Travs
Fascinating. Thanks, that’s the sort of feedback I’m after.
Just been looking at them on the web: they also mention spring.
Being a tight git, I might try sg 3 rather than sg 4! Is there a difference?
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Originally Posted by Daletownrunner
It sounds like all the same benefits that were to be had by Barefoot running a few years ago :confused:
I’ve only had the 3 so not too sure, I’d go for the 3 if they’re cheaper :) they last for ever, I’ve also got the Torrent, a lovely shoe but not much cushioning, I did find that the Hokas gave me tired legs until I was used to them, I’ve heard the same from a few people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oracle
I had the Speedgoat 3, and they are so cushioned that’s i’d happily knock out a 20+ mile road run in them.... they are even more cushioned than the heavily-cushioned Hoka Road shoes...
Although I have gone back to Scott for now, for trail (and fell) shoes due to sheer build quality and comfort...
I reckon they’re more comfortable than the road shoes, I find the footbed on the SG and the Torrent flatter, I’ve found the road shoes tend to squash my sole and make it sore at the outer edges, it could just be a sizing issue and I perhaps need a half size up for the road
Funnily enough I found the opposite re sizing on the Hokas... having to go up half a size for the trail shoes... I guess it's as much a foot-shape issue as size...
The Speedgoats are certainly incredibly comfortable...
Although I'm a bit of a convert to Scott at the moment... the RC Ultra are fantastic and I used them all summer as pure fell shoes (despite them being marketed as long-distance trail/mountain shoes, the grip was excellent), and now use them on the road... got the Supertrac RC for the fells now and they are again very comfortable, jury is still out regarding grip (the grip appears good but next time I may well go back to the VJ Irocks for the fells, which seem to be pretty much perfect).
Agree more training having said that I’ve been told I’m getting some inov 8 graphene mudclaws for Christmas😊
I've switched the Hokas now too. Torrent and Challenger ATR. Love them. Was always put off by the max cushioning and loss of hround feel but my legs have never felt better. Tje Torrents are nearly ss grippy as any other fell shoe Ive used but far more comfortable. Tne Challengers are just a great all round shoe. I'm a convert now.
Just seems unethical and people are posting ridiculous times with these shoes.The feedback from the lads at my road club Morpeth they UNQUESTIONABLY make a massive difference .If anything they put me off road racing and more onto the hills and trails so happy days.