Good all-round shoe?

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21-12-2021, 03:12 PM
PeteJ

Good all-round shoe?

Most of my regular runs involve a mixture of road, trail, grass/mud and some rock.

I've worn Walshes for years but the road wears the studs out fast.

I appreciate an all-round shoe will be a compromise, but I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks.
21-12-2021, 04:50 PM
mr brightside

You can't really get an allround shoe, but you can get walshes resoled at LSR and just circulate several pairs. It's cheaper than new shoes every time.
21-12-2021, 05:00 PM
PeteJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr brightside

You can't really get an allround shoe, but you can get walshes resoled at LSR and just circulate several pairs. It's cheaper than new shoes every time.

Cheers - I didn't know that.
22-12-2021, 12:01 AM
PeteS

I doubt such a shoe exists but if I had to pick from my plethora of footwear, I'd plump for the inov-8 trailroc. Enough cushioning to cope with the road and some hard-pack trail but would be sadly lacking in the grip on softer ground.
22-12-2021, 08:48 AM
Travs

Again i'd agree with the posts above that there is no such thing... but as i mentioned on the very thread below, Scott Supertrac RC Ultra would be my vote... i won't repeat everything i said so just check that thread.
22-12-2021, 10:54 AM
PeteJ

Thanks for the suggestions. I guess my ideal is something like Walshes but with a longer-lasting sole.
23-12-2021, 05:43 PM
noel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travs

Again i'd agree with the posts above that there is no such thing... but as i mentioned on the very thread below, Scott Supertrac RC Ultra would be my vote... i won't repeat everything i said so just check that thread.

I see they have supertrac 2.0 on offer at Sportshoes.com (although only in some sizes). I've ordered a pair, so will provide feedback if I remember once I've run them in a bit. This guy thinks they're OK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sU0akIZuxo

He's concerned they're too rigid, but that sounds good for me - I get sore feet with shoes that are too minimal.
23-12-2021, 08:04 PM
Travs

Worth noting that those in the video are the RC Supertrac Ultra.

The RC Supertrac (non ultra) are more like proper fell shoes and have a totally different sole pattern and general build.

I must admit i didn't get on brilliantly with the pure fell shoe (although given their popularity at fell races i must be in the minority), but found the Ultra version to be excellent.
23-12-2021, 09:30 PM
JohnK

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteJ

Most of my regular runs involve a mixture of road, trail, grass/mud and some rock.

I've worn Walshes for years but the road wears the studs out fast.

I appreciate an all-round shoe will be a compromise, but I'd appreciate any recommendations.

Thanks.

If you are looking for a true all rounder then a look at these may be worth while :-

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/ne...foam-hierro-v6

I cover an average of between 70-100 mile a week wearing these to good effect even when fastpacking over a few days with kit on my back, ok they are not fashionable and they may be considered a little heavy in this day and age, but they do what they are designed for, which is an all round shoe and not a racing shoe . As I say they suit my needs admirably and the Vibram sole is comparably long lived ,

Good luck in your search:)
24-12-2021, 10:52 AM
PeteJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnK

If you are looking for a true all rounder then a look at these may be worth while :-

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/ne...foam-hierro-v6

I cover an average of between 70-100 mile a week wearing these to good effect even when fastpacking over a few days with kit on my back, ok they are not fashionable and they may be considered a little heavy in this day and age, but they do what they are designed for, which is an all round shoe and not a racing shoe . As I say they suit my needs admirably and the Vibram sole is comparably long lived ,

Good luck in your search:)

Cheers mate.
24-12-2021, 12:41 PM
ba-ba

I've found Inov8 roclites to be the best jack of all trades master of none. The previous version were best IMO, but the current model is pretty close.
27-12-2021, 12:22 PM
Llani Boy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travs

Again i'd agree with the posts above that there is no such thing... but as i mentioned on the very thread below, Scott Supertrac RC Ultra would be my vote... i won't repeat everything i said so just check that thread.

I think that the Scott Supertrac Ultra RC is a great all round shoe unless you find yourself on very tussocky uneven ground where it tends to roll a bit. It is my favourite training shoe.

The Scott Kinabalu Ultra RC is much better on the above mentioned ground but does not have as much cushioning. It is my favourite race shoe.

Although they have slightly different tread patterns both have great all round grip apart from very wet and muddy terrain where inov8 Mudclaw's are king.
27-12-2021, 07:27 PM
PeteJ

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'm leaning towards a pair of inov8 X-talon.

Can I ask for some pointers re sizing?

I take an 8 in a Walsh pb trainer, and have an old pair of Inov8 flyrocs in a 7.5.

Will be ordering online.
27-12-2021, 08:06 PM
Mike T

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteJ

Thanks for the suggestions.

I'm leaning towards a pair of inov8 X-talon.

Can I ask for some pointers re sizing?

I take an 8 in a Walsh pb trainer, and have an old pair of Inov8 flyrocs in a 7.5.

Will be ordering online.

Which X-Talon? They vary considerably in width - I like the 255s - the 235s are too narrow for me. Are you sure there is no retailer near you?
27-12-2021, 08:18 PM
PeteJ

The 212v2.

I live near Sheffield but shops there don't seem to have any stock.
27-12-2021, 08:37 PM
Mike T

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteJ

The 212v2.

I live near Sheffield but shops there don't seem to have any stock.

One of their narrowest shoes - lucky you if they fit! I had a pair years ago, but they had to be far too long to be wide enough - clown shoes.
27-12-2021, 09:02 PM
PeteJ

No

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike T

One of their narrowest shoes - lucky you if they fit! I had a pair years ago, but they had to be far too long to be wide enough - clown shoes.

Thanks for the tip.
07-05-2023, 08:18 PM
mr brightside

The Scott supertrac non ultra 2 are still on offer at blands. I think they maybe worth a try.
10-06-2023, 08:21 PM
mr brightside

Got a pair of supertracs for 70 notes from blands, went out in them today. As soon as I went for the clutch pedal in the car I knew they had a really stiff outsole, I generally prefer the x-talon minimal outsole. You can't feel a lot through the supertracs sole, they are a bit like clogs to me. The upper is very stiff too, and won't be persuaded into position if you have narrow feet and need to clamp down the laces. Whether or not they grip will have to wait until my ankle heals. The heel cup is also very bulky, and may suit anyone who gets heel blisters as there is a hell of a lot of padding.
06-02-2024, 07:59 AM
mr brightside

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr brightside

Got a pair of supertracs for 70 notes from blands, went out in them today. As soon as I went for the clutch pedal in the car I knew they had a really stiff outsole, I generally prefer the x-talon minimal outsole. You can't feel a lot through the supertracs sole, they are a bit like clogs to me. The upper is very stiff too, and won't be persuaded into position if you have narrow feet and need to clamp down the laces. Whether or not they grip will have to wait until my ankle heals. The heel cup is also very bulky, and may suit anyone who gets heel blisters as there is a hell of a lot of padding.

Worth a mention that i wore the Supertracs for runners and riders at the weekend, and they felt like a really solid and grippy shoe on the steep descent into Dib gill. I was surprised that i didn't have to back off. They are however, a bit slippy on wet rock, and the dips round your ankle bone are definitely too high. In fact the whole heel cup rim could do with dropping 5-10mm.