Managing erosion and numbers

Given the concerns about many new people coming into the sport and how this will affect numbers and the landscape perhaps the answer to is to ban anyone under 45 from entering a race. That way numbers will stay manageable, you will get wiser older heads running and the kids can go off and do skateboarding, competitive yo yo ing, Olympic happy slapping or whatever takes their fancy. Al could offer his services as a pole in the long jump.

Bofra can still do their junior section but only for 30+ people, that way their will be no CRB or chaperone issues and they can have a drink and a late night if they want one.

Also most of the field being 45+ they will be so addled following years on Timmy Taylors or Pendle Witches that as they will have no young uns to follow they will forge brand new routes in all directions in established races like Pendle.

What do people think?

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Given the concerns about many new people coming into the sport and how this will affect numbers and the landscape perhaps the answer to is to ban anyone under 45 from entering a race. That way numbers will stay manageable, you will get wiser older heads running and the kids can go off and do skateboarding, competitive yo yo ing, Olympic happy slapping or whatever takes their fancy. Al could offer his services as a pole in the long jump.

Bofra can still do their junior section but only for 30+ people, that way their will be no CRB or chaperone issues and they can have a drink and a late night if they want one.

Also most of the field being 45+ they will be so addled following years on Timmy Taylors or Pendle Witches that as they will have no young uns to follow they will forge brand new routes in all directions in established races like Pendle.

What do people think?

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I'll tell you what I think......I think that antisocial has gone to an awful lot of trouble to post this thread starter:rolleyes:

And I think that its a poor show when not one forumite has bitten!:(

Question? Is Antisocial losing his touch?.............

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Originally Posted by Steampig

I'll tell you what I think......I think that antisocial has gone to an awful lot of trouble to post this thread starter:rolleyes:

And I think that its a poor show when not one forumite has bitten!:(

Question? Is Antisocial losing his touch?.............

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I thought it was a damned fine suggestion but couldn't be bothered to say so!:p

Yep... he must be losing it!;)

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Originally Posted by Pilgrim

I thought it was a damned fine suggestion but couldn't be bothered to say so!:p

Yep... he must be losing it!;)

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He He! I'm with you on that one.....problem is by admitting to liking the idea we all show our age!:rolleyes:

ban all under 50s...........vet 50 is all I'm bothered about.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Given the concerns about many new people coming into the sport and how this will affect numbers and the landscape perhaps the answer to is to ban anyone under 45 from entering a race. That way numbers will stay manageable, you will get wiser older heads running and the kids can go off and do skateboarding, competitive yo yo ing, Olympic happy slapping or whatever takes their fancy. Al could offer his services as a pole in the long jump.

Bofra can still do their junior section but only for 30+ people, that way their will be no CRB or chaperone issues and they can have a drink and a late night if they want one.

Also most of the field being 45+ they will be so addled following years on Timmy Taylors or Pendle Witches that as they will have no young uns to follow they will forge brand new routes in all directions in established races like Pendle.

What do people think?

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Oh dear AS, there is a storm coming.

I'm banned by this :mad:. Don't know why he wants to ban people like me, only time I'm close to him is on the start line, yet to come within about half a field of him!!!

. Little biara thinks its amusing in 2 years I'm a Vet, but 'I thought you were a teacher' was her first comment on this 2 years ago.....

...and being 45 you'll be hoping to be at the sharp end of the field??? :p

Nice try Aunty Sally.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Given the concerns about many new people coming into the sport and how this will affect numbers and the landscape perhaps the answer to is to ban anyone under 45 from entering a race. That way numbers will stay manageable, you will get wiser older heads running and the kids can go off and do skateboarding, competitive yo yo ing, Olympic happy slapping or whatever takes their fancy. Al could offer his services as a pole in the long jump.

Bofra can still do their junior section but only for 30+ people, that way their will be no CRB or chaperone issues and they can have a drink and a late night if they want one.

Also most of the field being 45+ they will be so addled following years on Timmy Taylors or Pendle Witches that as they will have no young uns to follow they will forge brand new routes in all directions in established races like Pendle.

What do people think?

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yeah i get to run in the junior section;)

A better solution would be to make it a rule that every athlete has to cycle to and from the event. Local races for local runners.

We just need more races on little used paths.

Ive just come up with the rule on erosion.


We try and repair what we can, the rest is out of our control unless we all agree to leave the fells forever and run on tarmac instead.

Amen.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

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That its the biggest load of tripe I've heard for a while :eek:

Discrimination of any kind doesn't wash these days. :cool:

Erosion is a by-product of activity out on the fells, but it is a price well worth paying.

I think you'll find that all of the erosion is caused by fat walkers, rather than skinny fell runners. I positively glide over the ground :D

The premise of the thread assumes that people who have seen better days;) are somehow more experienced. I reckon there would be plenty of people in their twenties who have more experience and more time in the fells than you 40 plus has beens;)

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Originally Posted by john doe

ban all under 50s...........vet 50 is all I'm bothered about.

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does vet 50 know you fancy him/her?

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Originally Posted by XRunner

A better solution would be to make it a rule that every athlete has to cycle to and from the event. Local races for local runners.

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Genius. Also make it that you can only run in your local county. Annexe the lakes into yorkshire (what there is left of it above water) and leave the Lanc Mans where there are (possibly with a wall built lancashire) - perfect.

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Originally Posted by Stolly

I think you'll find that all of the erosion is caused by fat walkers, rather than skinny fell runners. I positively glide over the ground :D

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At the risk of your wrath - you actually are a hero of this thread as I understand you don't run on authorised footpaths anyway thus not eroding them (sorry I just couldn't resist):D

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Originally Posted by ukhursty

That its the biggest load of tripe I've heard for a while :eek:

Discrimination of any kind doesn't wash these days. :cool:

Erosion is a by-product of activity out on the fells, but it is a price well worth paying.

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Using that argument are you saying it is wrong to put age limits on drinking etc.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Using that argument are you saying it is wrong to put age limits on drinking etc.

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Don't pretend to not understand ;)

You know what I mean. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ukhursty

Don't pretend to not understand ;)

You know what I mean. :rolleyes:

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Sorry but I think you don't understand the ramifications of your own argument, you need to think it through a bit more.

And who decides it a price worth paying for what is eseentially a leisure activity. I doubt many of us would want to stop running offroad but even less would say "and I don't give a toss" which is your implication.

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Sorry but I think you don't understand the ramifications of your own argument, you need to think it through a bit more.

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I think basically Hursty is saying you can't discriminate against people entering fell races or using the countryside as an amenity for recreation because of their age, if this whole thread is a wind up it's really funny:rolleyes:.

We should be thinking longer term & more strategically. The only viable solution to this and so many other present-day problems is to address the problem that there are too many people, and this problem is getting worse as populations increase. Personally I'm against the traditional solutions to this: war, famine, pestilence. Not too keen on the Chinese legal sanctions either. Drunken driving is no longer socially acceptable - should having more than 2 children be seen as socially acceptable? We should be thinking in terms of managing the world population over time down to, say 10% of current numbers & keeping it there. Of course I've no idea how to achieve this, but at least I'm prepared to say it needs doing, which is more than the politicians are prepared to do.

Otherwise - numbers keep on increasing until there is either war, famine, pestilence or legal oppression. There'll be more erosion on the fells, less water to drink, more global warming etc etc.

I think there is a little more to land errosion than a few people enjoying open spaces.

http://www.sciencealert.com.au/opini...809-19879.html

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/348200_dirt22.html

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Originally Posted by neil wootton

I think basically Hursty is saying you can't discriminate against people entering fell races or using the countryside as an amenity for recreation because of their age, if this whole thread is a wind up it's really funny:rolleyes:.

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Thank you - I do try

I have pointed this problem out with some solutions on the film thread but don't know how to bring it over here on this thread.

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Originally Posted by tri-mind

I have pointed this problem out with some solutions on the film thread but don't know how to bring it over here on this thread.

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Originally Posted by Steampig

I'll tell you what I think......I think that antisocial has gone to an awful lot of trouble to post this thread starter:rolleyes:

And I think that its a poor show when not one forumite has bitten!:(

Question? Is Antisocial losing his touch?.............

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I've only just looked at this thread. I think it needed a more sensational headline to draw me in, such as "younger runners to be banned".

AS once again shows us the advantage of not using smilies. Some people take the bait, others point and laugh. There's something for everyone in this thread.

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Originally Posted by Splatcher

We should be thinking longer term & more strategically. The only viable solution to this and so many other present-day problems is to address the problem that there are too many people, and this problem is getting worse as populations increase. Personally I'm against the traditional solutions to this: war, famine, pestilence. Not too keen on the Chinese legal sanctions either. Drunken driving is no longer socially acceptable - should having more than 2 children be seen as socially acceptable? We should be thinking in terms of managing the world population over time down to, say 10% of current numbers & keeping it there. Of course I've no idea how to achieve this, but at least I'm prepared to say it needs doing, which is more than the politicians are prepared to do.

Otherwise - numbers keep on increasing until there is either war, famine, pestilence or legal oppression. There'll be more erosion on the fells, less water to drink, more global warming etc etc.

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Excellent post. Disturbing but true.

Excellent observations by Splatcher! But in all fairness to Antisocial, he has the best interests of the youngsters at heart: Taking up fell running at the age of Young Dave Foulup or UKhursty, they will just end up with knackered knees before they have chance to graduate into the V40 ranks!

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Originally Posted by wheezing donkey

Excellent observations by Splatcher! But in all fairness to Antisocial, he has the best interests of the youngsters at heart: Taking up fell running at the age of Young Dave Foulup or UKhursty, they will just end up with knackered knees before they have chance to graduate into the V40 ranks!

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No criticism of Antisocial intended by me either. I'd vote for a minimum age of 55 though.:D

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Originally Posted by Splatcher

No criticism of Antisocial intended by me either. I'd vote for a minimum age of 55 though.:D

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If no one is criticising me this thread has blatantly failed.

I mean CL and Heathens where are you when I need you?

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Originally Posted by XRunner

A better solution would be to make it a rule that every athlete has to cycle to and from the event. Local races for local runners.

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didn't one of the hayfield races have a reduced price for non car users or 4 in a car LLL:confused:

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

If no one is criticising me this thread has blatantly failed.

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I'd go a bit further; ban anyone with a birthdate on or before 10/6/58 aand everyone with a birthdate on or after 12/6/58

:rolleyes:

OK....I've thought about it; I'd probably still come last........

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Originally Posted by IanDarkpeak

didn't one of the hayfield races have a reduced price for non car users or 4 in a car LLL:confused:

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I'm sure I saw a race that had a sliding scale of fees according to the type of car you were driving as well as the number of people in it.

I'm with Splatcher: population control is the future. We should stop trying to cure everything and insulating people from the world's risks so they don't die.

For my part, I vow never to procreate. Though I still think I should keep my hand in with the mechanics of it all in case of global emergency.:D

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Originally Posted by Antisocial

Sorry but I think you don't understand the ramifications of your own argument, you need to think it through a bit more.

And who decides it a price worth paying for what is eseentially a leisure activity. I doubt many of us would want to stop running offroad but even less would say "and I don't give a toss" which is your implication.

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*Shovel*

*Hole*

:cool:

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Originally Posted by Splatcher

We should be thinking longer term & more strategically. The only viable solution to this and so many other present-day problems is to address the problem that there are too many people, and this problem is getting worse as populations increase.

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Respected scientist and strategic thinker Professor W. Connolly has some interesting proposals for controlling world population based on cannibalism.
a) If one person undertakes to 'consume' one other, this will at a stroke halve world population.
b) If the jobless are targeted, this will eliminate unemployment.
c) Similarly, if the homeless are selected, this will remove the need to build housing.
There are many benefits to his ideas, which deserve consideration.

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Originally Posted by DinoF

I'm sure I saw a race that had a sliding scale of fees according to the type of car you were driving as well as the number of people in it.

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Yes, I remember I was feeling extravagant that day and paid £23 to turn up alone and park my long-wheelbase transit in six spaces. Some people weren't too keen, but what could they do? I had paid for it.

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Originally Posted by FellJunior

Respected scientist and strategic thinker Professor W. Connolly has some interesting proposals for controlling world population based on cannibalism.
a) If one person undertakes to 'consume' one other, this will at a stroke halve world population.
b) If the jobless are targeted, this will eliminate unemployment.
c) Similarly, if the homeless are selected, this will remove the need to build housing.
There are many benefits to his ideas, which deserve consideration.

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The (ex?)fox hunters could help with the cull... it will give them an interesting change from foxes and give the foxes a break. It would also provide plenty of spare meat for both the hounds and the foxes so the farmers wouldn't need to be too concerned about fox attacks on their livestock.